OxygenOffice extended openoffice package for puppy linux

[DavidEllis2]

I'm running a full install of Puppy 4.2.1 on a rather old and small system but decided to give oxygenoffice a try on it. Downloaded and installed oxygenoffice301_420.sfs. (I had a bit of a problem with sfs not being recognized but sidestepped that by using Pet_Maker to convert and install it as a .pet). It seems to run surprisingly well considering the system is low on RAM. However, I just noticed that the windows all seem to be locked to the upper left corner of the screen and cannot be dragged. They can be resized from the lower right corner but the top and left sides of the windows seem to have no window frame and are glued fast to the edges of the screen. (Windows of other apps on the system behave normally.)

Is this a known behavior; something I should attribute to running in such a small system; or something that might be fixable?

[ecomoney]

Hi, there is a little buglet I mentioned in the first post. I think its some conflict with JWM but dont quote me on that. The workaround is to right click the program in the taskbar at the bottom and select "maximize".

Let us know if this worked for you, and also would you post the specs of your PC, I would be interested to know the lower limits of this package.

[DavidEllis2]

That works and thanks. (I thought I had posted a reply to this already but it seems to have disappeared.)

also would you post the specs of your PC, I would be interested to know the lower limits of this package.

Del Latitude 510, 128 Mb RAM, 1GHz cpu, large slow disk. It runs reasonably on small files (Word, Excel generated ones were tried). Runs out of RAM, swap space etc. on anything large and soon becomes too slow to be useful. I threw a 15 Mbyte Excel at it and it did eventually load and run but I would not wish to really try and use it on something that big. I did hang up on three large linked database files from Access. Maybe it would have come back - I got tired of waiting.

I just tried putting it onto an even slower system. Generic one 233 MHz and 128 Mb RAM. That was definitely a problem. I got it to install and got the document writer to load but it took too long to do anything with it.

Despite the above comments, its a great suite. Even on the Dell it will be useful as a means of being able to read and make mods to MS-Office files as long as they are not too big.

David E.

[ecomoney]

Thanks for the pointers David

[musher0]

Preliminary note. Before you read on, you must know that Oxygen Office is meant for professional writers and editors. If you only write the occasional letter to your dad or girl/boyfriend or municipal counselor, don't go through all this trouble, Abiword is quite ok for writing shorter documents.

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Hello, all.

Just a not-so-quick (!) note to tell you that you can load ecomoney's "OxygenOffice 3.01 sfs" in dpup 482 (and probably all the new Puppy's with the new sfs format [from Puppy 4.3 on]). You simply need to convert it to sfs4 file format with the sfs converter which is included in Puppy 4.3.x or dpup 482. This took about 10 minutes on my computer, but it's well worth it.

Oxygen Office versioning has moved only "half an inch", so, in my opinion, it's not worth downloading the absolutely newest version of Oxygen Office. I found I could use this one (ecomoney's sfs) profitably.

Just to be clear, for newbies:
Once the Ooo sfs is converted, simply copy it to

* your home disk (this means: the disk where your pupsave file resides)
* at the top level (this means: do not put it in any directory).

On next boot, the Oxygen Office sfs will appear automatically; if not, you'll have to activate the sfs loader, and then it'll show the sfs. Sorry for being so obvious: once you see the file in the loader, activate it and reboot.

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Once you got Ooo running, you may want -- or need -- to download a language pack if your language is not English. I couldn't find any suitable 3.01 language pack on the OpenOffice site (where are they hiding it?!) , so I downloaded the current 3.1.1 language pack for my language.

I "un-debbed" the language pack archive and then all its parts with xarchiver, and the files went in a "Base3.1.1" directory or similarly named, in /opt. Then, I simply copied the files from this unpacking directory to the /opt/.../Base3.0.1 or similar. And you're good to go. (Sorry, I'm not working in dpup 482 right now, so this is from memory.) I suggest you remove the unpacking directory once you've copied the files.

N.B. This adds +/- 25 Mg to your pupsave file, so make sure there's enough room there before you start un-archiving and copying.

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For spelling and thesaurus, you may want to download DicOo (for a great many languages) -- or even for your variant of English (En-US, en-AU, en-CA, etc.) -- and install it. Set the macro security to low -- just for this operation --, load DicOo.svw, choose your language, and follow the instructions. (There's no need for a pet file for DicOo, it's a regular OpenOffice file.)

Edit: Actually, in OOo 3.x you're better off using extensions. See my post here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 52&t=48052


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Another useful tool for editing text in Oo or Ooo is LanguageTool. The download site http://www.languagetool.org/ also has installation instructions. You'll need a recent java environment installed in your Puppy and activated in Oo or Ooo (such as java 1.6) to use LanguageTool.

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With the above installed, you'll be able to do professional writing and editing in Puppy.

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I beg forgiveness from the old hands: for newbies, maybe it's better to be too clear and obvious than obscure and seemingly knowing?
Maybe I wasn't clear enough myself!

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Many thanks to ecomoney for making Oxygen Office available as a sfs, and of course, for the filespace to download it from.

BFN

[edoc]

I do not see an obvious, to me, link to OxOf (OxygenOffice) on page 1 of this thread.

What am I missing, please?

Our son is doing a ton of writing for his two online college courses and has requested OpenOffice - but it sounds as though OxOf may be better.

Thanks!

[musher0]

Hello, edoc

They are indeed in the very first post, here:

Mirrors (more Needed)
BigFileHost.com worldwide download mirror

Ecomoney Systems Ltd European Download Mirror

Sincerely,

[edoc]

Hello, edoc

They are indeed in the very first post, here:

Mirrors (more Needed)
BigFileHost.com worldwide download mirror

This one keeps requesting that the code be reentered - never gets to the download.

Ecomoney Systems Ltd European Download Mirror

This one produces this error:

Not Found
The requested URL was not found on this server.

Will take another look in the morning ...

[sikpuppy]

There's some links to older versions on this page: http://puppylover.netsons.org/dokupuppy ... fice_suite

[edoc]

Found it here: http://puppy.cnbits.com/node/974

Simple "Save Link Target As"

BTW: Is OxOf likely to continue to be maintained for Puppy?

Sure would hate to get our son invested in learning it only to have it go stale.

Thanks for the help locating it!

[edoc]

Just to be clear, for newbies:
Once the Ooo sfs is converted, simply copy it to

* your home disk (this means: the disk where your pupsave file resides)
* at the top level (this means: do not put it in any directory).

My pupsave is located in /mnt/home/pup431

Are you saying that OxygenOffice will not work there?

On next boot, the Oxygen Office sfs will appear automatically; if not, you'll have to activate the sfs loader, and then it'll show the sfs. Sorry for being so obvious: once you see the file in the loader, activate it and reboot.

I did the conversion and it is in the same folder as my pupsave - but it does not show up in the menu.

I do not find anything anywhere called "sfs loader".

Where might that be, please?

[musher0]

Hello again, edoc.

You say:
> My pupsave is located in /mnt/home/pup431
> Are you saying that OxygenOffice will not work there?

Answer: Exactly the contrary! Any SFS file should be in /mnt/home, however, not in the Puppy sub-directory.

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You say:
> I do not find anything anywhere called "sfs loader".

Answer:
Click on Menu -> System -> Boot manager configure boot up

When the boot manager shows up, click on the top green button, the one marked: "Choose which extra SFS files to load on bootup".

A two panel rectangle appears. The available SFS files are in the left panel, the already active SFS's are on the right.

If your OOo SFS is in your home directory (as above), it should appear in the left panel.

Overline it with the mouse, and then click the ADD button. It will transfer to the right side panel.

Then click on the "ok" button at the bottom of the rectangle.

Reboot. When the reboot is complete, you should now have at least one of the following:

At least one OOo icon on your desktop, AND/OR
the OOo components might be in your menu, like so:

Ex.: Menu -> Document -> SWriter (or OOwriter)
Ex.: Menu -> Calculate -> Scalc (or OOcalc)

And so on for SImpress and SDraw (usually under "Graphics"; depending on the OO SFS version, sometimes SImpress is under the "Utility" sub-menu.)

That's it! Break a leg and keep me posted!

[edoc]

I now have oxygenoffice301_420-sfs4.sfs in /mnt/home

Puppy Boot Configuration - Load SFS Files - does not recognize it.

This is on a machine with a Frugal install of 4.31

WDYT?

[musher0]

Hello, again.

Sorry to hear that.

Possible solutions I know of that usually works:
1) Try renaming the file to oxygenoffice301_431-sfs4.sfs.

2) If that fails, try installing jrb's SFS-Linker at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 837#352837
(first post, page 1, first line).

Other that that, I'm beat, sorry.

[musher0]

Hello, again, edoc.

About this:
> BTW: Is OxOf likely to continue to be maintained for Puppy?
> Sure would hate to get our son invested in learning it only to have it go stale.

For the record, until yesterday (really), I was using Oxygen Office O 2.4.1. I'm a professional translator-editor, and OOO 2.4 allowed me to work in any text my clients threw at me. However highly typeset with graphics and logos and such these texts may be, my clients never perceive the difference because I am working on OOO in Linux and not on Word in Windows. Never a complaint. I also maintain my client database and invoicing on OOO.

So even if your son is into writing an encyclopedia or something like that, the version number should not make a difference.

As to maintaining it, I don't know where ecomoney (the compiler of the Oxygen Office SFS) is hiding... If we all hold hands and concentrate, I'm sure he'll knock twice on the ouija table. ecomoney, are you there?

But seriously, if my memory is not failing me, my experience has been that ecomoney provides the Puppy community with a new version of OOO once a year or so.

Also, the development of OOO is always a bit behind that of OO, for obvious reasons. However the OOO developers usually incorporate something that OO doesn't have, to sort of make up for the difference in version numbers.

In short, my guess would be that an installation of OOO v. 3.0.1 could last you for a couple of years.

I changed to OO 3.2 (dev version) because I'm moving my entire Puppy setup to dpup, and I wanted a fresh start on everything, not because OOO 2.4 let me down or got stale. (I used to be in Puppy 4.12.)

Another concern you mention is "learning it". Well, no concern there, the commands of OxOf 3.0.1. are the same as those of the old OO 1.5 (2002), and even of StarOffice 5.1 (1999; the great-grand-dad of OO). Besides, the Open Office community is so large now, so active and so international, I don't think OpenOffice (or OxOf) is ever going to be "orphan" program.

BFN.

[musher0]

Hello, again.

Other that that, I'm beat, sorry.

Well, not quite. If you don't mind too much not having OxOf, you could try
OO 3.2 (dev version). Both SFS and PET packages available here:
http://puppylinux.org/news/petstests/co ... -packages/

As I mentioned earlier I have installed the OOo 3.2 SFS, and it works fine.

[edoc]

It's working! It's beautiful!

Our son works on scripts and other text and graphics-based projects with friends elsewhere in the world so this will work well for him there as well as in college.

Thanks!

I need to get my PC updated to 4.31 or better and load it as well.

I tend to exchange docs with others on the regular basis - and will be doing more of it soon - so this will work really well for me!

I'll probably load it on all of our computers just to have a common base.

Tell me more about dpup versus 4.31, should I look at that?

[musher0]

Yay! Three cheers for you, edoc!

You didn't say whether it's OxOf or OOo 3.2 that's working for you, but that's ok! You tell us later!

I would recommend dpup ONLY for the adventurous at this time.

Nothing bad will happen if you use it for production, except it's not meant to be used that way yet. It's still in the making, and some aspects of it are still very much in flux. So the middle-of-the-road user might get disoriented and confused. Also, some docs /infos are not written yet, 'cause the programmers are still too busy programming. Dpup is at 4.82 beta 4 now, beta 5 probably at the end of the month (Nov. 09). Once a stable version of dpup is produced, it will open the entire Debian repositories. I'm told Debian has the world's largest library of Linux software, and so you will have access to a lot of programs directly from the dpup Puppy.

In the meantime, you can choose Puppy 4.3.1 or ttuuxx's "Puppies" 4.3.1. To make a long story short, the main difference is that the regular Puppy by BK (Puppy's founder) uses Seamonkey as the browser, and ttuuxx's version uses Firefox 3.5 with extensions. Both are stable versions, very reliable and very good. Lots of docs in their forums. Choosing one over the other is a matter of personal preference, really.

One I really like is the big Cielo+, based on Puppy 4.2.1; it has a recent version of Open Office in it, too. So I installed it on a DVD as a live-DVD, and I use it on the road.

Try the lean and elegant Boxpup 4.13 if you like the OpenBox environment. Try Mark Ulrich's NY-Pup if your heart skips a beat when somebody whispers the word "Gnomish" in your ear! Or NOP, if you like the xfce desktop; it's sort of specialized in writing applications, too. Or aragon's recent "bbnobrowser.iso" if you're the McGyver-ist type, and you'd like to start from a basis (almost scratch!) and install your own programs on top of it. There's also Lighthouse Pup if you'd like to have a well-rounded KDE environment in Puppy. There are so many good Puppy derivatives I cannot do them all justice and mention them all here.

Browse around and try a couple! Your choice! Have fun!

[edoc]

In my excitement I should have clarified the environment:

Puppy 4.31
OxygenOffice 3.01

The fix was merely to rename the section in the OxOff filename to 431 from 420

musher0 set me right:
1) Try renaming the file to oxygenoffice301_431-sfs4.sfs.

I am watching Barry's work on WOOF and am amazed!

I guess I will stick with 4.31 for now on all sic of our family laptops and see how things shake out over the upcoming holidays in Puppy-world!

[musher0]

That's great, edoc! Glad I could be of help!

BFN.