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Posted: Wed 07 Sep 2005, 11:53
by Johnny Reb
jcoder24 wrote:New tested hcfmodem.pup package available -- download below. The new hsfmodem.pup should be up in a day or two.

Changes
1) Should work "out of the box" hopefully
jcoder, it does work "out of the box"! This is my first post from puppy! I'd say more, but I've stayed up very late to get this working. THANKS!

Deo Vindice!

New update for modem doesn't work

Posted: Thu 08 Sep 2005, 08:56
by Guest
Sorry jkoder, but your new modem update *0907.pup doesn't work. It even doesn't make folders /lib/modules/2.6.11/hsfmodem and there is no ttySHCFo, cuaHCFO in /dev/. Maybe it make sence to make those directories manually and put there all files needed. Waiting for new advice.

New update for modem doesn't work

Posted: Thu 08 Sep 2005, 09:02
by Guest
Sorry jkoder, but your new modem update *0907.pup doesn't work. It even doesn't make folders /lib/modules/2.6.11/hsfmodem and there is no ttySHCFo, cuaHCFO in /dev/. Maybe it make sence to make those directories manually and put there all files needed. Waiting for new advice.

Re: New update for modem doesn't work

Posted: Thu 08 Sep 2005, 10:11
by Johnny Reb
Anonymous wrote:Sorry jkoder, but your new modem update *0907.pup doesn't work. It even doesn't make folders /lib/modules/2.6.11/hsfmodem and there is no ttySHCFo, cuaHCFO in /dev/. Maybe it make sence to make those directories manually and put there all files needed. Waiting for new advice.
Sorry Bubba, but it does work because I'm using it now. If you will review what you posted above you will see what the problem is, specificly /lib/modules/2.6.11 that is your problem. This driver has been compiled for kernel 2.4.29. I'm too new to Linux to say if it can be compiled for the 2.6.x kernel or not, but that is the reason it's not working.

Re: New update for modem doesn't work

Posted: Thu 08 Sep 2005, 11:14
by jcoder24
Anonymous wrote:It even doesn't make folders /lib/modules/2.6.11/hsfmodem
As Johnny Reb stated these drivers are for kernel 2.4.29. Trying to compile the older version of the drivers (which is what I'm using since they are without cost and license restriction) failed. For one knowledgeable enough, they maybe able to edit the source files to allow them to compile under kernel 2.6.x but I'm not at that stage yet.

That is slated as a furture project. My next projects are BCM modem drivers, wm menu conversion scripts, pptplinux gui, network admin puppy.....

Note however, the latest version of the drivers compile and work on kernel 2.6.x but it comes with distribution restrictions. There is a free version that limits connection speed to 14.4k (i think) so that's why I'm sticking with the older versions.

If you don't mind 14.4k or paying $25 (i think) for a license for the new version of the driver you can probably try compiling it yourself. I'll be willing to provide any help you need.

Posted: Fri 09 Sep 2005, 05:39
by New Puppy Fan
Thanks, jcoder for advice concerning 2.6.x kernel. It was me as a Guest. I definitely wont stick to HCF modem and will try to find more "Linux friendly" . Do you know the types of modems which work flawlessly with Puppy?
Thank you.

Posted: Wed 14 Sep 2005, 01:09
by jcoder24
External serial modems are preferred and almost guaranteed to work. Failing that you can prob. try a hardware/controller based internal modem. Note however that some retail outlets may try to pass off a winmodem as being a hardware modem.

Posted: Thu 15 Sep 2005, 02:36
by jcoder24
Keys to knowing if the modem you are purchasing is a winmodem is looking for one of the following keywords: softmodem, winmodem, Windows-only, controlless, HSF, HCF.

Another indication is the number of components (esp. chips on the modem) the fewer the components the more likely it is to be a winmodem.

The only sure way of knowing is to do some research on the particular modem you are thinking of buying, including getting reviews (http://reviews.cnet.com). You could also get a find out what hardware based modems others find to work and chose one?

Posted: Thu 15 Sep 2005, 03:19
by Flash
Definitely start by looking for hardware that has been proven to work with the Linux distro you choose.

I bought a PCI card modem which said on the box that it would work with Linux; a US Robotics 5610B, if I remember right. It worked fine in Windows, although not as well as the Winmodem that came with the computer, but I was never able to get it to work in Mandrake Linux. Someone who knew more than I did about Linux tinkered around and got online with it one time, but then said he couldn't remember what he did that got it to work.

The problem seemed to be that every Linux distro I tried assumed that all internal modems are Winmodems. That was a few years ago. Maybe things have improved. I wouldn't know because a few years ago I got an (internal) cable modem, a Zoom 5001, which works fine with every OS I've tried, no configuration required, so I just forgot about the dial-up modem.

Dial-up is the legacy connection to the internet. I'll never understand why it works so poorly in Linux when Linux has no problem with newer, high speed technologies.

Posted: Fri 16 Sep 2005, 21:26
by jcoder24
New Puppy Fan wrote:Thanks, jcoder for advice concerning 2.6.x kernel. It was me as a Guest. I definitely wont stick to HCF modem and will try to find more "Linux friendly" . Do you know the types of modems which work flawlessly with Puppy?
Thank you.
See http://www.goosee.com/puppy/wikka/ModemPageWorking for a list of working modems, not sure which kernel version they work with.