Slacko 5.7 final - 8 March 2014

[Jades]

I don't have a lot of time today, so this will be brief. Testing 5.6.8.0 (PAE version) on Pentium D.

Network wizard static IPs problem sorted.

AM/PM is still being truncated on the 12hr clock on first restarting of X server off a pfix=ram boot.

I did a quick test upgrade of a copy of my 560 save and the 5655 one and in both cases sound wasn't working. On both saves the boot finished at the command prompt and I had to run Xorgwizard (but didn't try just typing xwin first). After Xorgwizard finished I got to a working desktop.

Sound is fine on a pfix=ram boot.

More info later.

[PaulR]

@mavrothal: all I know is that the menus are presently inconsistent and a bit ugly with all those mixed-case filenames etc That's also the problem with listing them program name first, I mean what does 'XSane' or 'Urxvt' mean to anyone at first sight? I frequently have to read through the full menu description to recall what something does, or vice versa, what the name of the program is that does such a function. Windows wins out on that score as it tends to have less obtuse program names.

Listing the programs by function seems like a logical extension of the menu to me, it's pretty much like having sub-menus which plenty of WM's seem to have (although I don't like them!):

->Menu->Document->Spreadsheet->Gnumeric
->Menu->Document->Text Editor->Leafpad
->Menu->Document->Text Editor->Geany


I'll come back on the savefile problem shortly.

Paul

EDIT: While I think about it.... I haven't installed 5.6.5.6, I'm booting off a USB stick and the main puppy file is copied to hd. I just put a Slacko 5.5 CD in and booted and it offered up the save files that 5.6.5.6 isn't recognising (I didn't load either of them in case of compatibility issues! )

[SFR]

Hi Mick

Good to see a new version!

Made a test run on Acer and, while testing xrick and VICE, I noticed two small issues:

It seems that, for some mysterious reason, 5.6.8(.0) contains the older jwm-2.2, not jwm-901.
After installing the further from ibiblio, VICE runs fine.

Also, the sdl-1.2 (both inbuilt and from ibiblio are the same this time) seems to be somehow "patch-less", i.e. broken fullscreen mode in xrick.
Installed my dirty, test build of sdl-1.2.15 (I also built 1.2.14, but later it spits some "undefined symbol" errors) with the patch and the problem with xrick has gone.
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AM/PM is still being truncated on the 12hr clock on first restarting of X server off a pfix=ram boot.

Have you changed Country Settings before restarting X? As I wrote before it's because some locale won't display AM/PM at all, and, since ~/.jwmrc-tray contains:

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<Clock format="%I:%M:%p">minixcal</Clock>

(%p = AM/PM indicator), in such cases time string in tray ends with a lonely colon.
BTW, you can change the clock format to 24h (and disable AM/PM) in 'JWM Settings'.

Greetings!

[bigpup]

01micko,

Slacko 5.6.8.0
Live CD

Something did get fixed.

Old Problem:
New Netgear WNA1100 USB wireless adapter
Atheros AR9271

The Linux driver is ath9k_htc for USB.

The problem seems to be that the name of the firmware files changed at some point.

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Older firmware map:

AR9271 - ar9271.fw
AR7010 - ar7010.fw or ar7010_1_1.fw

Newer firmware map:

AR9271 - htc_9271.fw
AR7010 - htc_7010.fw

That firmware is in there but in the wrong spot. Fixed at woof level. In a few days I'll bring out a 32 bit slacko with the change.. can you give that a test with that wireless device please. Tia.

Whatever you did, it now works with no problem, with this latest version of Slacko 5.6.8.0

[CatDude]

Hi

@ Jades
With regard to that AM/PM nonsense,
SFR is quite correct when he say's

..it's because some locale won't display AM/PM at all

and unfortunately en_GB just happens to be one of them.

So, let me leave you with a little story.

• Quite some time ago, i was trying to figure out why the AM/PM did not display when using the en_GB locale,
  although it did if i use the en_AU locale.
  
  What i discovered was this.
  
  This file: /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_GB
  had the following lines:

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  am_pm       "";""
  t_fmt_ampm  ""

  Whilst this file: /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_AU
  had these lines:

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  am_pm       "<U0041><U004D>";"<U0050><U004D>"
  t_fmt_ampm  "<U0025><U0049><U003A><U0025><U004D><U003A><U0025><U0053><U0020>/
  <U0025><U0070>"

  Now, as those lines simply equate to the following:

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  am_pm       "AM";"PM"
  t_fmt_ampm  "%I:%M:%S %p"

  i thought to myself "What harm can it do to copy them into the en_GB file",
  so that's exactly what i did.
  
  I then temporarily set my locale to en_AU (and restarted the X server)
  • 
    WARNING: This messed up my desktop (reset the PuppyPin to default) but that was easily sorted as i had a copy of my good one handy.
    It also appeared to reset the /root/.jwmrc-tray file too (and who knows what else ) so i had to edit the clock format again.
    
    So, if you attempt this yourself
    it's probably a good idea to do it before you start customising things.
  Before sorting out the PuppyPin and the /root/.jwmrc-tray files,
  i went and deleted this directory: /usr/lib/locale/en_GB.utf8
  and then reset my locale back to en_GB (and restarted the X server)
  
  After sorting out the PuppyPin and resetting the clock format in the /root/.jwmrc-tray file,
  i had the AM/PM showing next to the time.

Maybe this change could be made at 'Woof' level
so that those of us in the UK don't need to piss about with it

CatDude
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[mavrothal]

What i discovered was this.

This file: /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_GB
had the following lines:

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am_pm       "";""
t_fmt_ampm  ""

Whilst this file: /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_AU
had these lines:

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am_pm       "<U0041><U004D>";"<U0050><U004D>"
t_fmt_ampm  "<U0025><U0049><U003A><U0025><U004D><U003A><U0025><U0053><U0020>/
<U0025><U0070>"

.

The correct string for en_GB is

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am_pm   "<U0041><U004D>";"<U0050><U004D>"
t_fmt_ampm "<U0025><U006C><U003A><U0025><U004D><U003A><U0025><U0053><U0020>/
<U0025><U0070>"

(maybe that's why it messed up your desktop)
Unfortunately this is not a woof bug but an old glibc(?) issue.

[OscarTalks]

The Advert Blocker sits there in its own sub-category and it is quite a useful tool.

In the other thread, Zigbert was suggesting that I should make any changes via Woof-CE. I will look into that but I am not sure I am sufficiently qualified/experienced or confident as yet.

Meantime, I hope it is OK to upload one (taken from Slacko 5.6.8.0) here with suggested modifications and fixes:-

Technobeta seems dead, domain is for sale, removed all code relating to technobeta and adlist 4. Blocker script is now handling only 3 adlists throughout.

Mvps list was not working at all. List is downloaded but gets totally deleted because it is now in a different format so I fixed it by adding some sed commands to modify this list before it is combined with the other two.

There is a grep which I changed from 1-9 to 0-9 which I think is better(?).

Added a few words to the main GUI because it makes sense to suggest to users that they select ALL the services (block as many known bad hosts as possible) rather than trying to figure out which one they prefer (how would they be expected to do that?) and also it is handy to know that running the blocker with nothing selected will remove all blocking.

Set the number of wget download tries to 2 rather than 0 (unlimited). Testing one night, the yoyo server was temporarily down and this caused the script to hang because it never stopped trying to download the list. (Does this make sense?).

[PaulR]

Just downloaded 5.6.8, booted off USB and the savefile is now being recognized and properly loaded!

While downloading the iso on a Win 7 machine I tried to use GParted on a Linux Mint machine to erase the usb stick but it kept falling over. (I was doing this because I've found difficulty in erasing/formatting/burning using unetbootin on Win when a stick has previously been 'linuxed'!) In the end a Windows quick format worked and I burned the iso with unetbootin and all is now working. I can only guess that the 5.6.5.6 iso didn't burn properly and that somehow this was affecting the savefile (????). Beyond me I'm afraid.

Paul

[PaulR]

Modified the .desktop files (locally as an experiment) for items in the 'Documents' section of the menu. A simple hyphen rather than brackets, pipe or some other symbol looks the cleanest separator.

Would anyone object to initial capitalization (as I've done with e3)? I think it would look more consistent.

[SFR]

Ouch, I have just found an ancient bug, since 5.3.3.
I was trying to install Slacko (via Puppy Universal Installer) on internal HDD using "Internal IDE/SATA Flash drive (exs: CF card, SD memory card)" option, and it failed at creating ldlinux.sys:

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# extlinux -i /mnt/data
extlinux: cannot find device for path /mnt/data

As usual, while troubleshooting, I took /sbin/extlinux from somewhere where it works (Lupuplus-5.2.8-005 in this case - there are newer versions of ext- and syslinux, v4.03) and this time:

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# extlinux -i /mnt/data
/mnt/data is device /dev/sda1

and ldlinux.sys has been created successfully.

Also, if you recall the old bug from before 5.5 (IIRC), with isolinux.bin:

bugfix isolinux.bin displaying garbage after perusing F2,F3 menus

this has been fixed only while booting from the ISO, but not from HDD (extlinux) or USB (syslinux).
Newer versions of both binaries have fixed this as well.

So, how about upgrading the whole thing?

Greetings!

[jrb]

Abiword is included for posterity and will be unceremoniously dumped by me as quick as 5.7 is out. I hate it.

I couldn't agree more. Slacko5502 was a real treat, partly because Abiword was absent.

Just wanted to say how much I appreciate your hard work. Slacko has been my Puppy of choice since 5.3 and 5680 promises to be another masterpiece.

I have only one complaint, please activate the adrv! Its there in the initrd.gz file structure and in the init file. All it needs is to add

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DISTRO_ADRVSFS='adrv_slacko_5.6.8.0.sfs'

to the DISTRO_SPECS file. For those of us who don't use a pup_save its invaluable.

Cheers, Thanks again, J

[CatDude]

Hi

..The correct string for en_GB is

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am_pm   "<U0041><U004D>";"<U0050><U004D>"
t_fmt_ampm "<U0025><U006C><U003A><U0025><U004D><U003A><U0025><U0053><U0020>/
<U0025><U0070>"

OK thanks,
but the only difference there is <U006C> as opposed to <U0049>
or put another way, a lowercase L as opposed to an uppercase i.
Surely that isn't going to be a problem,
having a leading zero rather than a blank space in front of the hour.

(maybe that's why it messed up your desktop)

I don't think so, just the mere act of switching locales was enough.

Try this:

• Edit the PuppyPin to remove all desktop icons (not the drive icons)
  then restart the Xserver, you'll have a nice clean desktop.
  Now switch to a different locale, all the icons will come back,
  that's what i meant by 'messed up'

Unfortunately this is not a woof bug but an old glibc(?) issue.

Sorry, i wasn't trying to infer that it was a woof bug,
more of a suggestion that it could maybe be fixed at woof level somehow.

CatDude
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[peebee]

Hi Mick

Looks like you've used a version of the Broadcom STA wl.ko driver source that doesn't have the patch to create wlan0 instead of eth1.

The source I've been using, that does have the patch is from:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/i38 ... .223.141-1

Cheers
peebee

[Terry H]

I did a frugal instal of the slacko-5.6.8.0 on my laptop which has Intel 4965 AGN wifi card. The wifi is not working. I did a work around by copying the 'iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode' from another instal and saving it as '/lib/firmware/iwlegacy/iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode', as per a fix mentioned in pemasu's DPup Wheezy thread.

I have attached the output from pdiag, which was run on a clean instal without doing the work around.

[Marv]

I did a frugal instal of the slacko-5.6.8.0 on my laptop which has Intel 4965 AGN wifi card. The wifi is not working. I did a work around by copying the 'iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode' from another instal and saving it as '/lib/firmware/iwlegacy/iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode', as per a fix mentioned in pemasu's DPup Wheezy thread.

I have attached the output from pdiag, which was run on a clean instal without doing the work around.

Blacklist wl and repeat the test. From the pdialog output it looks like that might do it. If that does it there is a fix discussed here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 337#748337

[James C]

Fresh manual frugal install of 5.6.8 ...needed to use SNS for internet connection.Otherwise,all looking good so far.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.6.8

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C68 [GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 55
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 56
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 59
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 58
nvfx_screen_get_param:95 - Warning: unknown PIPE_CAP 30
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
4697 frames in 5.0 seconds = 939.328 FPS
5554 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1110.602 FPS
5485 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1096.886 FPS
5555 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1110.835 FPS
5545 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1108.882 FPS
5524 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1104.797 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
Memory : 3113MB (197MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko Puppy - 5.6.8
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 07 Mar 2014 03:40:00 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on NV67
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
-Input Devices-

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.4.82 (i686)
Version : #1 SMP Mon Mar 3 17:15:25 EST 2014
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Distribution : Slacko Puppy - 5.6.8

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       3113716       575020      2538696            0        59368
-/+ buffers:             515652      2598064
Swap:      6246396            0      6246396
# 

Even though the PAE version is redundant with the advent of Slacko64 I'll probably give it a quick test later as well.

[James C]

Fresh manual frugal install of 5.6.8.0 (PAE).....same results as above install.Different kernel requires nouveau.noaccel=1 to be used.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.6.8.0

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C68 [GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
1332 frames in 5.0 seconds = 266.285 FPS
1720 frames in 5.0 seconds = 343.666 FPS
1700 frames in 5.0 seconds = 339.998 FPS
1684 frames in 5.0 seconds = 336.573 FPS
1705 frames in 5.0 seconds = 340.928 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
Memory : 3885MB (201MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko Puppy - 5.6.8.0
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 07 Mar 2014 03:55:12 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.10.32 (i686)
Version : #1 SMP Mon Mar 3 16:37:24 EST 2014
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Distribution : Slacko Puppy - 5.6.8.0

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       3885768       582808      3302960            0        60652
-/+ buffers:             522156      3363612
Swap:      6246396            0      6246396
# 

[James C]

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[gcmartin]

Tested Slacko 5.6.8.0 (PAE) on my eeePC netbook via a Netboot from one of the LAN PCs.

All is well ... no issues on boot to desktop. Great!!!
Booted in 40 seconds over the LAN.

[mavrothal]

Updated 5.6.5.6 with no issues.
However, updating from 5.6 still fails to do a proper full update
Turns out that puppy does not update the /etc/rc.d/ files before the upgrade so if you have the old ones in your save file will be used instead of the new ones
I have fixed that in woof for the next version but till then if you want to update from Slacko-5.6 just boot with "pfix=clean"