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01micko wrote:Jim and oldyeller.

It is possible that it's a JWM issue. scsijon reckons that 692 (that is used in this version) is unstable.

You can try 691 attached.

Hi Mick tried 691 with wine from ppm and still get the same results as before.

Manual upgrade from 5.4.0.5 to 5.4.0.6 on the old P4 test box. Everything looking good so far.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.4.0.6

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse record

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.464 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.144 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.143 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.144 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.143 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.143 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 2592MB (213MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko Puppy - 5.4.0.6
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 03 Mar 2013 11:19:59 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5
-Input Devices--Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 2592MB (213MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko Puppy - 5.4.0.6
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 03 Mar 2013 11:19:59 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

Good evening/morning, mick!
How many back issues will the present delta fix (just one, I suspect?).
Have loaded an earlier 5.3 release onto a friend's laptop to dual boot. What are the chances of a successful update by re-installing as a FULL. pfix= ram, etc, etc?

Evening here

I would back up the personal data and do a clean install, after testing pfix=ram of course. Because of Slackware moving to "kmod" (module-init-tools has not been developed in 3 years) for kernel module loading there is a rocky road to tread in upgrading from 5.3 to 5.4 (soon to be 5.5). I'll do a delta from 5.4.0.5 when ready.

All that said, if you have backed up there is no harm in trying but first read THIS page. There will be a new page with even more comprehensive tips and work arounds for known issues on release of 5.5.

Thanks for your speedy response, mick! I guess this information may be of assistance to quite a few folks, maybe worth repeating de temps en temps?
Your notes in your link are especially helpful regarding wireless issues; have had 'no connect' and' disappearing connection' features crop up frequently. Not saving the WPA Key can also be distracting, requiring finding the router(!) and up-ending it to read the key.
Personally, I took the precaution of lifting the floorboards during my last move and hard-wiring networking throughout. I also set my Key to something more memorable than the one supplied, but editing the router config is beyond most regular folks and can cause havoc if they hit the wrong key...

No problem.

And thanks.. you jogged my memory into including another helpful parameter for wireless stability.. I'll just dig up the code... to do with power management.

Ah... my memory prevailed (but I did check )

Concerning a workaround for the wireless bug, I had written a "how to"
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84266

Art

I had occasion to look at /tmp/bootsysinit.log and found that a directory and a file were not being found.
One was /lib/modules/3.2.33 that was there, but named 3.2.33-4g.
I created a syslink in the modules directory to it.

The other, a file, was /etc/modules/firmware.dep.3.2.33.
When that file is not found, do the firmware dependencies get loaded?

I was just wondering why the -4g was added to directory and file names on files associated with the sysinit process as it seems that it is causing directories and files to not be found.

Sage wrote:Personally, I took the precaution of lifting the floorboards during my last move and hard-wiring networking throughout.

For some reason my Parents weren't particularly keen the idea of me drilling holes through the walls and ceiling of our freshly decorated study when we got broadband. Spoilsports.

01micko wrote:another helpful parameter for wireless stability.. I'll just dig up the code... to do with power management.

Ah... my memory prevailed (but I did check )

Code: Select all

echo "iwconfig wlan0 power off" >> /etc/rc.d/rc.local

I must admit that power management wasn't near the top of my list of wireless-related things to check on a desktop but I'll give it a shot anyway. It does seem to be a bit more reliable on 5.4.0.6. The dropouts seem to be related to the amount of data transferred somehow.

Art,

I'll link to your "how to" in the extended release note.

8-bit

Nice catch, fixed.

5.4.0.6.1 looks good (and I did add the udev-175 use in Pox_git ) but hava a strange "problem" with frisbee.
In a pfix=ram setting the frisbee window before connection is "normal" size, but after the connection is established and appears in the frisbee UI (ie connected to: 123.45.67.890) the window resizes to the full screen size but stays in position and runs off screen.
Looks like that connection triggers a gtkdialog window resize
Anyone else is seeing this?

Mavrothal... yes, on a small screen this is an issue with frisbee, I think when the text comes up it's too big for the hbox .. remove homegenous="true" and it does fix it IIRC.

I'm still testing 5406pae on my acer desktop.
I did another remaster that has lots of applications (713mb iso) and
did a manual frugal install of that to an 8gb SDHC card with grub4dos
as the bootloader.
I used the customize option in the remaster script so when I boot it
up it's ready to go, takes 90 seconds to boot and I don't need to make
a savefile so there's plenty of room on the SDHC card.

video-info-glx 1.5.1 Mon4Mar2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.4.0.6 Linux 3.4.17-PAE i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller:nVidia Corporation G84[GeForce 8600 GT](rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (373x231 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 310.32
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Core 0: @1603 1: @1603 2: @1603 3: @1603 MHz

5406 pae is working well here.

I don't know if this issue was noticed on this thread, but since i started with Slacko i can't get running any vpn service (PPTP/OpenVPN).

Perhaps that the system doesn't create correctly the interface used by the VPN client, even after symlink /bin/ip . The same issue happens between GPPTP and OpenVPN.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83155

Puppy is famous for running on old kit. Here it is running on some new kit, 3rd gen intel i3 with hd 4000 graphics. I had to buy it to portabilize my work environment. I have learned some stuff that might be useful to some people: Windows 8 can be made to look and work just like W7 (by using Classic shell or Start8); Ubuntu can run Gnome Classic--not Mate but the Gnome 3 programs with a nice fast gui like Gnome 2; Kubuntu/KDE can run with Openbox as well as with Plasma--with Openbox it is snappier.

Congratulations on Slacko 5.5 Micko and thanks.

<Add: Another thing I learned is that there is now a Netflix app for ubuntu (at least. It includes wine, silverlight, and mono so it is 250MB at least--but it did work.

Welcome back young man. Your contributions have always been amazing. ( But nothing will persuade me to use WindozeAnythingAnywhere!).

I tested it yesterday and it seems to work well.

Slacko has a new feature which should help us in keeping our systems current.

I ask:

• How often and when should this tool be use?

Today, 2 events occurred when clicking on it

1. First, a messagebox appearred indicating the system is up to date
2. While a follow-on Window appeared (shown below) that offers update as of today's date

Curious for good system management recommendation.

This distro is clean, responsive and stable, thus far.

Thanks in advance for an answer to my question.

The message does not imply that "the system is up to date" but the list is up to date. You will notice "This list was last updated on (date)".

Perhaps the splash could be more clear. I'll note that for a future release.

If the program version listed is the same as the one installed it does not get reinstalled. In fact only seamonkey and firefox show always as they may not even be installed (depending on distro maintainer's preference of default browser). The list will update automatically at first run of the program if the database is older than 2 days. Why 2 days? I think it's reasonable. If it were to update every time the prog started, the server logs would soon fill up, so I built in some consideration for upstream.

There is no recommendation on when to update. The choice is yours. Update every 5 minutes if you want or never. Be aware all updates packages downloaded are saved to /tmp and will disappear on reboot. All updates will take up savefile space. It is also recommended in a splash screen to uninstall seamonkey or firefox before updating. This mechanism isn't perfect or else it would be done automatically. This is another future consideration.

HTH