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Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 03:18
by aarf

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# wget -c http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/zigbert/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet --user=puppy --password=linux 
--2010-04-24 10:19:43--  http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/zigbert/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet
Resolving puppylinux.asia... 1.0.0.0
Connecting to puppylinux.asia|1.0.0.0|:80... failed: Connection timed out.
Retrying.

--2010-04-24 10:20:05--  (try: 2)  http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/zigbert/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet
Connecting to puppylinux.asia|1.0.0.0|:80... failed: Connection timed out.
Retrying.

--2010-04-24 10:20:28--  (try: 3)  http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/zigbert/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet
Connecting to puppylinux.asia|1.0.0.0|:80... ^C
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Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 04:00
by 01micko

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# wget -t 0 -c --user=puppy --password=linux -P /root http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/zigbert/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet 
--2010-04-24 13:57:50--  http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/zigbert/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet
Resolving puppylinux.asia... 70.35.16.60
Connecting to puppylinux.asia|70.35.16.60|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Authorization Required
Reusing existing connection to puppylinux.asia:80.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 289841 (283K) [application/x-pet]
Saving to: `/root/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet'

100%[======================================>] 289,841     27.5K/s   in 10s     

2010-04-24 13:58:01 (27.9 KB/s) - `/root/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet' saved [289841/289841]
I really don't know why its getting that IP "puppylinux.asia|1.0.0.0|:80." :?

Anyone?

Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 04:13
by playdayz
video worked great. But I don\t know which driver it made use of.

It did not take Swedish despite me told it to. I reported this about the 000 too.
Hey Nooby, did that mean that the video behaved properly when it had been choppy? it is not using the lowest common denominator vesa drivers, but it is using the good dri/glx drivers. You can open a terminal and type 'glxgears' to confirm (hopefully) that DRI/GLX is working.

Yes, the Locale chooser was not working. We are very hopeful that it will all be good in 010. I just did a test myself in Argentine Spanish.
Exited to prompt and entered "new-wizard", clicked probe and picked 1024x768x16 and got ......800x600.Repeated with same result. Tried Vesa and got 800x600 again....
Hi James C, I swear I thought I had tested that it would have worked as you described. But that was a half-way kind of kludge and we are going the full monte in 010 ;-)

Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 04:27
by aarf
01micko wrote:

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# wget -t 0 -c --user=puppy --password=linux -P /root http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/zigbert/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet 
--2010-04-24 13:57:50--  http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/zigbert/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet
Resolving puppylinux.asia... 70.35.16.60
Connecting to puppylinux.asia|70.35.16.60|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Authorization Required
Reusing existing connection to puppylinux.asia:80.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 289841 (283K) [application/x-pet]
Saving to: `/root/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet'

100%[======================================>] 289,841     27.5K/s   in 10s     

2010-04-24 13:58:01 (27.9 KB/s) - `/root/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet' saved [289841/289841]
I really don't know why its getting that IP "puppylinux.asia|1.0.0.0|:80." :?

Anyone?
changed to gprs connection from open wifi signal which was routed through china IP address (proxy blocking wget connections?).
now get this:

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# wget -t 0 -c --user=puppy --password=linux -P /root http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/zigbert/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet
--2010-04-24 11:21:52--  http://puppylinux.asia/tpp/zigbert/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet
Resolving puppylinux.asia... 70.35.16.60
Connecting to puppylinux.asia|70.35.16.60|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Authorization Required
Reusing existing connection to puppylinux.asia:80.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 289841 (283K) [application/x-pet]
Saving to: `/root/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet'

100%[======================================>] 289,841     29.6K/s   in 14s     

2010-04-24 11:22:31 (20.9 KB/s) - `/root/pwidgets-2.2.7.pet' saved [289841/289841]

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but still cant get quickpet to complete, now get blue message then pink timeout messages. didnt get any messages before. gprs connection is much slower than the previous open wifi signal.

Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 04:41
by 01micko
Ok, maybe the china thing was borking it somehow.

In quickpet there is a loop that grabs the file info first, that may be too fast for a slow connection, I can slow it down somewhat. That may fix the issue.

Thanks for report.

Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 06:01
by James C
playdayz wrote:
Exited to prompt and entered "new-wizard", clicked probe and picked 1024x768x16 and got ......800x600.Repeated with same result. Tried Vesa and got 800x600 again....
Hi James C, I swear I thought I had tested that it would have worked as you described. But that was a half-way kind of kludge and we are going the full monte in 010 ;-)
Good deal. Guess that's why we do all the testing........... :)

Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 07:02
by nooby
glxgears works fine here???


# glxgears
1546 frames in 5.0 seconds
1483 frames in 5.0 seconds
1536 frames in 5.0 seconds
1527 frames in 5.0 seconds
1527 frames in 5.0 seconds
1537 frames in 5.0 seconds
1530 frames in 5.0 seconds
1547 frames in 5.0 seconds
1557 frames in 5.0 seconds
XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
after 27935 requests (27091 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
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it show the graphics good and the streaming videos on cnn too.

But when I scroll using the mouse dragging the vertical bar then the screen split up in many many horisontal parts. Very annoying.

it also place the whole screen 5 mm to the left compared to quirky 013

Edit: forgot to comment on this:
Hey Nooby, did that mean that the video behaved properly when it had been choppy? it is not using the lowest common denominator vesa drivers, but it is using the good dri/glx drivers. You can open a terminal and type 'glxgears' to confirm (hopefully) that DRI/GLX is working.


My english fails to get grammar properly in that text.

1. Maybe you refer to horizontal split up. I don't remember.
2. if you mean if the choppyness goes away if one choose Vesa instead of Xorg.
Yes it does

What else could you refer to? I don't know!

Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 07:11
by cifa
great work guys - worked straight out of the box! thank you :D
booted up (on frugal install) perfect on my ASUS mobo with Intel g41 graphics chipset - running @ 1280 x 1024!! happy days!
opera 10.2 installed - no problems
pwidgets installed no problem
glxgears works fine here too.
dri is active

only problem I have is with gxine
it just freezes/crashes the whole system on me when I try to play a video (mp4/avi) or even just try to boot it up without playing a video
cant do anything but reset (ctrl, alt & backspace no effect)

keeping a close on this & will keep testing

Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 07:39
by tronkel
Re: Lupu 009

Video card is ATI Radeon 3450

This got configured automatically on first boot, but German DE keyboard didn't get recognised. I know this problem has already been discovered, so just confirming that it's also the case here with this hardware combination.

There's apparently also a problem with CUPS 1.4.2 in Lupu 009.
My Brother DCP-7030 printer/scanner gets configured perfectly using the OEM Brother drivers, but nevertheless CUPS won't print a test page. It starts the job OK but hangs with a message "File might not be a PDF Type" ?????. Never seen this before in CUPS. I can print perfectly from earlier versions of Lupu and also from Quirky 018.

Something missing to do with CUPS in the Woof pet packages maybe? Anyone else seen this problem?

I'll start up Lupu 009 again later today and play further with it.

I like the new Quickpet idea. It's not actually downloading for me as yet, but I imagine that'll get sorted out at some point before the final release.

Otherwise cool.

Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 08:37
by smil99
Can confirm tronkel's printing problems here too. That is, CUPS is unable to print to my Canon MP640 in lupu 007, 008 and 009. I still use lupu006 because it has CUPS 1.42 which prints just fine. The latter lupus have CUPS 1.43 and I have no idea why printing breaks down.

Printing problems

Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 10:25
by mories
The printing problems with messages in /var/log/cups/error_log:
[Job 1] GPL Ghostscript 8.71: Can't find initialization file gs_init.ps.
[Job 1] Set job-printer-state-message to "May not be a PDF file (continuing anyway)", current level=ERROR

are caused by missing content of folder
/usr/share/ghostscript/8.71/Resource/Init
of package "ghostscript"

Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 11:08
by tronkel
@mories,@smil99

I have just installed Ghostscript via the Package Manager in Lupu 009 Alpha1.

Printing then works except for the inability to print a test page. For some reason this test page file itself is missing in this Lupu. So this is at least a temporary workaround.

I also managed to get my keyboard recognised by copying over my keyboard options into Lupu's basic xorg.conf from the xorg.conf in Quirky 018. It can sit at the bottom of the xorg.conf file. Again only a workaround.

It also might give playdayz a start on how to get rid of these two bugs.

Might be that the Ghostscript version in Lupu needs to be the Ubuntu version rather than the version included in Woof at the moment. Seems that way anyway.

Good detective work from mories. Kudos!

Sound & font size

Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 11:16
by P123
:lol: First I have to say I love Lucid 009 very usable & gxine works (in all the other puplets I have tried it hasn't expect TeenPup).

Just using the live cd.

But to get the sound to work (on my Toshiba Satellite L30-101 laptop upgraded to 2Gb of ram) I had to plug in an external speaker (X-mini second generation).

& Whenever I tried to change the font size it would not save the changes.

Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 12:05
by pa_mcclamrock
This is my first time trying LucidPuppy--008 yesterday, 009 today. I like a lot of it: choice of browsers, quickpet, Sylpheed 2.7.1 as default e-mail manager, .PETs seem to install even faster than before, Puppy is not turning into Ubuntu, even though you can now install .deb packages from Ubuntu as easily as .PETs (so far as I can see).

Printing didn't work until I installed Ghostscript 8.6.4 from the Woof repository. I didn't know what category it would be in, and the new PPM doesn't have an "All" radiobutton, so I had to go to ibiblio.org with the browser and download it. Lupu 010, I think, must have Ghostscript included, and the test page problem fixed--please!!

My only other big problem so far is screen resolution with Xorg in 009 (it was fine in 008). In 009, I clicked "Setup X video" in Puppy Setup, and nothing happened. Same when I tried it from the menu. I don't want the resolution I automatically got, I want good old 1024 x 768 (fewer pixels, but bigger text and icons). How am I supposed to get it? I would really like to start using the Lucid Puppy pre-releases and give them a thorough test, but I'm going to use Puppy 4.3.1 with the screen resolution I like, rather than lupu 009 with the one I don't.

Posted: Sat 24 Apr 2010, 23:08
by playdayz
, I want good old 1024 x 768 (fewer pixels, but bigger text and icons). How am I supposed to get it? I would really like to start using the Lucid Puppy pre-releases and give them a thorough test, but I'm going to use Puppy 4.3.1 with the screen resolution I like, rather than lupu 009 with the one I don't.
I believe that Lucid Puppy 111, just posted, might have what you are looking for ;-)

Posted: Sun 25 Apr 2010, 00:16
by pa_mcclamrock
playdayz wrote:I believe that Lucid Puppy 111, just posted, might have what you are looking for ;-)
Sorry, but I'm running it right now, and it doesn't. :(

1. Printing still doesn't work, at least if I don't install Ghostscript from the Puppy 5 repository. On 4.3.1, it worked right from the start.

2. I did get a choice of screen resolutions, unlike in 009. I selected 1024 x 768, tested it, and it supposedly worked OK. Then I got a confusing dialog box telling me I probably shouldn't make it permanent, but use it only for this session, and use Xorgwizard (if I recall correctly) to select a permanent resolution. Xorgwizard still doesn't do anything. Now I've got 1024 x 768 resolution, all right--but I don't have a taskbar or drive icons at the bottom of the screen! Also, I'm running Opera 10.10, and the scrollbar is halfway off the screen.

Frankly, if you have to choose between the old-fashioned method of setting the video resolution before starting X, which works right, and this newfangled way of setting the resolution while X is running, which so far doesn't work right . . . well, you can easily guess what my recommendation would be. Likewise, the printing really needs to work right from the first. I started trying to use Puppy with version 1.0.7 in about 2005 (I think), but I couldn't use it every day until about 2008 (with version 4.1.1), all because the printing didn't work for me before then. I'm really looking forward to a Lucid Puppy without these faults, but unfortunately I'm going to have to reboot 4.3.1 again right after I get done with this message.

Persevere--and thanks in advance for finally succeeding!

P.S. Hey, this is progress, kind of. I took the lupu-111 CD out of the drive, put the 4.3.1 CD in to prepare to reboot, and the CD drive icon showed up! The hard-drive icons still didn't, though--and you know what, Pmount wouldn't mount the hard-drive partition I tried to get it to mount, either. :cry:

bug report

Posted: Sun 25 Apr 2010, 00:46
by raffy
Bug report from the news site:
Re: LuPu 006 - I have 8 storage devices. On boot, the icons are misaligned. Manually aligned icons but they are again misaligned on reboot..

Added a flash device: no icon appears but shows up in the pmount dialog.

mhWaveEdit has the same problems as in 005; does not record from line.

Pmusic problem of playing item not displayed and no indication of time elapsed now resolved.

When source is open and the + button to add a file to playlist is clicked, another instance of the source is generated. Bug or by design?

Pmusic: pressing the icon to go back 30 secs in fact goes back to the beginning of the track.

What happened to the Browser menu?

Posted: Sun 25 Apr 2010, 01:26
by James C
Fresh manual frugal install of Lucid 111 on the trusty P3 test box. I do have my preferred 1024x768 resolution but getting there was an adventure.

Booted the fresh install and automatically got......800x600. The gui came up, tried xrandr and was presented with 2 choices (800x600 and 600x480).Exited to a prompt and ran xorg-setup........I finally got 1024x768.

But, the 7 drive icons were piled up on the "quick pet" icon and moving the drive icons I now had no "quick pet" icon.Installed Firefox and Pwidgets with no problems, but.......

To make room for the Pwidgets I moved the trash, lock and zip icons. Upon the first reboot, all the drive icons moved back to the wrong location while the others returned to their original location under the Pwidgets.

Plugged in a flash drive and the icon landed on top of sda1. Mounted it and moved the files I chose but then pmount would not unmount i, tried repeatedly.

Will do some further testing. :) .

Posted: Sun 25 Apr 2010, 01:45
by 8-bit
For the drive icons, try MENU/Desktop Settings/Desktop drive icons manager.
On the first tab at the bottom, there is an option to erase, realign, and redraw the desktop drive icons.
Maybe having that selected will help.

Posted: Sun 25 Apr 2010, 01:59
by James C
8-bit wrote:For the drive icons, try MENU/Desktop Settings/Desktop drive icons manager.
On the first tab at the bottom, there is an option to erase, realign, and redraw the desktop drive icons.
Maybe having that selected will help.
Thanks, that took care of one problem. :)