(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Just installed PAE version. No problems. It feels like video performance is better. Any reason that might be so or just my imagination?
1 GIG ram only.

In slacko, I can't find the equivalent of the left lower corner button in lupu or wary. Where would I find gparted, for example? I'm running slacko in virtualbox, but that works OK with lupu and wary.

carolus wrote:In slacko, I can't find the equivalent of the left lower corner button in lupu or wary. Where would I find gparted, for example? I'm running slacko in virtualbox, but that works OK with lupu and wary.

Carolus... right click on the desktop. Does the menu pop up?

8bit wrote:Had you tried editing xorg.conf and adding a line of your preferred resolution?
I seem to recall that I read that on the forum as a way to get the resolution you want when a lower resolution is being used by the xorgwizard and not showing the one you want.

Hi 8-bit.

Thanks, sure, it is not terribly difficult to fiddle around with xorg. I have done it, previously.

I am disinclined to play around, at present, though, because, if there is any benefit to my post here, today, it is this:

SOMETHING has changed, for the worse, during the past month!!!

The Puppy distro, from one month ago, Wary 5.2 gives PERFECT resolution, this new version crashes. I spent an hour, rebooting, "tweaking", changing drivers, etc, all for naught.

Something is wrong. I don't know what. I just know that this "Slacko" isn't going to cut it. Not for the older hardware. Probably works great on newer stuff, I don't know. But, unlike 5.2 Wary, this version FAILS.

jim3630 wrote: no mention of what he did on his "install" and crying sounds like a straw man to bait with.

sigh...

Sounds to me like maybe there is a problem with this version of Puppy Linux. Here's a radical idea: how about, instead of criticizing the messenger, you go find an old machine, and test the software, yourself.

There are no straw men, here. No baits. No crying. Just facts. The newest version of Puppy, Slacko, is a failure. Wary 5.2 works fine.

CAI ENG

carolus wrote:In slacko, I can't find the equivalent of the left lower corner button in lupu or wary. Where would I find gparted, for example? I'm running slacko in virtualbox, but that works OK with lupu and wary.

carolus, That looks like a resolution problem. I had the same problem, but to the right side of the screen, not seeing the clock, etc at bottom, nor the minimize/maximise buttons at the upper right corner.

All that was solved by playing a bit with Xorg to find a working resolution. I should also add I needed to ask the monitor to do an auto-adjust after each change.

So, no worries, the menu button is there

DaveS wrote:

carolus wrote:In slacko, I can't find the equivalent of the left lower corner button in lupu or wary. Where would I find gparted, for example? I'm running slacko in virtualbox, but that works OK with lupu and wary.

Carolus... right click on the desktop. Does the menu pop up?

Yes, right clicking on the desktop shows what I was looking for. Thanks, guys. Probably the easiest approach is to reinstall with low-resolution xvesa, which should be adequate for playing with the new puppy on virtualbox. No real need at the moment for me to switch from lupu 5.25.

caieng

... you go find an old machine, and test the software, yourself.

... Slacko, is a failure. Wary 5.2 works fine.

Do yourself a favor and read the Slacko release notes and the Wary release notes. You have an older computer.

2byte wrote:caieng

... you go find an old machine, and test the software, yourself.

... Slacko, is a failure. Wary 5.2 works fine.

Do yourself a favor and read the Slacko release notes and the Wary release notes. You have an older computer.

+1

OOOOPS, forgot to congratulate Mick

Slacko is the first enjoyable slackware-inspired distro in my experience. Anything related to Slackware has always added grey hair and an overwhelming feeling of incompetence. Not to mention the very complicated knot put into my plexus solaris, after trying to actually use anything Slackware related.

The ++ version is idling at 59 mb on this Atom Ion 330 machine. Wonderful.
I had a hard time to get Lubuntu 11.10 idling under 200 mb...(some reviewers got it down to 80 mb, but I'm beginning to doubt their honesty.. )

I will probably continue using Debian based Puppy's. Love is not rational after all. But this Slacko release is truly great.

One pet I depend upon is CPUtemp, made by the Wizard from Stratford, Ontario. It does not work in Slacko. Typing "sensors-detect" in a terminal results in "command not found" or something like that. Any ideas?

Congrats again and Thank You, Micko!

sc0ttman wrote:

2byte wrote:caieng

... you go find an old machine, and test the software, yourself.

... Slacko, is a failure. Wary 5.2 works fine.

Do yourself a favor and read the Slacko release notes and the Wary release notes. You have an older computer.

+1

Slacko works fine on my old P3 733 Mhz/256 Mb ram test box.

2byte wrote:Which kernel is in slacko-5.3-SCSI-PAE_HIGHMEM-ALT.iso?
Is it also 2.6.37.6 or a different one?

The PAE kernel is 2.6.39.4.

release notes wrote:Slacko is aimed at reasonably modern machines up to six or seven years old. It may run on even older hardware.

It is not to my favour, to encounter this, though, I confess, had I read it, I would not have wasted so much time, here, and downloading and so on...

Problem is that for every one person like those diligent folks who read the release notes, there are a hundred Puppy lovers, like me, who ASSUME, incorrectly, as it turns out, that if it is called "Puppy", of any flavour, then, by definition, it is meant to function well on OLDER hardware.

You needn't take my word for that overgeneralization. Go to Distrowatch.com, and read what they write about the target audience for Puppy linux: OLDER hardware.

Ok, I am off to one of my 64 bit computers with this newest version: SLACKO, let's see how it matches up to my standard 64 bit installation: CrunchBang XFCE. On that computer, CrunchBang shreds all the other versions of Linux, so, I am looking forward, now, to a head to head match up, of this newest iteration of Puppy, designed for NEWER hardware--SLACKO.

(prediction: CB will mop the floor with it. I have yet to encounter any Slackware distro that could keep up with CB.) Of course, on the other hand, if I fail to install VLC, well, then, I won't be able to say beans about it, right? Yup. No VLC, no peep from me. I don't know if the download will meet with success. Pity that, since abandoning "older" hardware, for this distro, no one bothered to update the Audio player to VLC. In that sense, Slacko remains a very outdated distro, whether or not it can run on 64 bit, dual core hardware. Of course, maybe I should reread the release notes, perhaps there is a note there explaining exactly what one must do, to enable VLC to run on this newest member of the Puppy family. I am now anticipating a problem which may not exist, at all.

Until today, I always had a warm spot in my heart, for Puppy, despite the name. A few years ago, I even sent Barry a modest donation. After today, I will let the results determine outcome, not sentiment. We'll see if Slacko, designed for newer hardware, "rocks". I have a feeling, based upon not encountering Lilo, that Slacko will more likely resemble pebbles, instead.

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caieng wrote: What I need is a version of Puppy designed to work with VLC. Is Slacko going to offer that capability?

From what I have seen, the answer is NO.

That's ok, if so, because I have confidence that eventually, Puppy will offer the best audio player, VLC, just as now, Puppy offers the sharpest, highest quality video display. Eventually, the junky stuff will be eliminated (remember the default from several years ago!!! wow. Even Amarok seemed better, and it had been certainly the second worst player ever conceived....

It probably would help if you'd check the PPM before your rants.

Been using Slacko this afternoon and it is working well. I did have trouble with the software center, couldn't download deja vu font extras, nor would firefox install from software center, but firefox did install from quickpet. Wondering if all the repositories are enabled correctly in the software center? Anyone else have trouble getting software through there? Also had trouble with Chromium working correctly, but I mentioned that in the bug report thread.
Otherwise working well, I especially like that you can use maximum memory in save, could only get a maximum of 1.25 gig in pup 5.2.5 and 5.2.7
Not really noticing big differences other than theme from 5.2.7 what sets this pup apart mainly from 5.2.7? Oh, also Alsamixer working out of the box. I always had to go and turn up all the settings in the other pup Alsamixers because default was either too low or off.
KBD47
PS I notice font selection is rather lame in most puppies. I see this as a problem because when font rendering is poor, a large selection of fonts can help improve the font rendering on various computers. I don't expect light weight systems to have great font rendering, but adding the open source fonts like Ubuntu and Liberty would help.

edit--sorry about the double post.

caieng wrote:

jim3630 wrote: no mention of what he did on his "install" and crying sounds like a straw man to bait with.

sigh...

Sounds to me like maybe there is a problem with this version of Puppy Linux. Here's a radical idea: how about, instead of criticizing the messenger, you go find an old machine, and test the software, yourself.

There are no straw men, here. No baits. No crying. Just facts. The newest version of Puppy, Slacko, is a failure. Wary 5.2 works fine.

CAI ENG

CAI ENG

if you care to read the release you might find out what machines slacko is targeted.

you do not bother to mention what equipment your trying to use slacko on. nor what ver of slacko. there are two releases.

you imply your using an old machine but again no specifics and declare maybe there is a problem with this version.

your posts are definitive lacking any hint of doubt you may have done something to get the results you claim.

you expect the community confer your veracity?

good luck with that.

sc0ttman wrote:

2byte wrote:caieng

... you go find an old machine, and test the software, yourself.

... Slacko, is a failure. Wary 5.2 works fine.

Do yourself a favor and read the Slacko release notes and the Wary release notes. You have an older computer.

+1

+1

James C wrote:

caieng wrote: What I need is a version of Puppy designed to work with VLC. Is Slacko going to offer that capability?

From what I have seen, the answer is NO.

That's ok, if so, because I have confidence that eventually, Puppy will offer the best audio player, VLC, just as now, Puppy offers the sharpest, highest quality video display. Eventually, the junky stuff will be eliminated (remember the default from several years ago!!! wow. Even Amarok seemed better, and it had been certainly the second worst player ever conceived....

It probably would help if you'd check the PPM before your rants.

darn don't you hate it when the facts conflict with opinion.

It probably would help if you'd check the PPM before your rants.

I guess my posts are considered "rants", but I have no idea what PPM designates.

I have heard of RPM.

I successfully installed Slacko on a modern computer, excellent video resolution: 1920 x 1200 via hdmi.

Very impressive.

Alsa did not work, not sure why, don't have time to investigate.

Did not observe any notes about installing VLC, or downloading VLC, and then installing it, so, if someone has a link to such information, I will look forward to reading same. In other distros I have used, the software is either already on the original cdrom, else, easily downloaded via Synaptic or something comparable. I have no such experience with Puppy, but, judging from the extent of my misunderstanding earlier today, of the target for SLACKO, and the community response, to that misunderstanding, I am not holding my breath.

P.S. In all the years (almost ten) I have installed various versions of Slackware, today is the first time I failed to use Lilo.

CAI ENG

caeng, the 'PPM' is the Puppy Package Manager, Click 'Install' on the desktop, or find it in the menu... Once in the PPM, click on the VLC package (in the multimedia category) to install it, then load it by going to Menu->Multimedia->VLC or by typing 'vlc' in the terminal.