Suppose everyone and every car was a Wifi transmit-receiver

[nooby]

Wefi security addressed here

http://www.wefi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=955

I might give this try...

Aitch

But them answer in a very round about way. It rather confirm
what I wrote. If that Man in the Middle faked member of Wefi
set up their snooping then there is no way that other Wefi members
can not them have been snooped into.

AFAIK them don't answer that in that text. So this Wefi is as insecure
as using a faked hotspot. wefi gives no quality of whom do what on
their network. Them just list those who join. Criminals can join too.

[gcmartin]

As far as the ability to build a world-wide network is concerned, there was a plan to do so. It was going to be a solution for world-wide public benefit.

See here.

Now, can you see why I started the thread. If we wait for them to do it for us, well ..... snowball's chance in ....

So, can we inspire a grass-roots movement with some technology from the thread's group?

[Aitch]

Hmmm

We have a bit of a hurdle, if PLUG* is anything to go by....


* PLUG - in case you missed it

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69437


The Net has a backbone based on the old NSF Science Network



In modern guise it is partly fiber based, and looks a bit like this



...and this is just a small part of 'The Internet'....
It's made up of [check the server/network specs] Tier 1, 2, and 3 nodes such as...

http://linuxwebhost.com/index.php/data_center

http://www.duahost.net/servers.html

http://www.superb.net/network/core-network/tier1.php

Loosely looking to us like

http://navigators.com/internet_architecture.html

There are already 'Community Networks' (more below)

http://www.merit.edu/services/

However, something a little more radical may be needed....

http://publicknowledge.org/e-parasite-s ... fAodryRMpw

http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/big-b ... -law-10090


Unless google have a change of heart, or we can buy [or distribute ] 1 million meshing Puppy netbooks....

http://www.williamhertling.com/2011/06/ ... ality.html

I am hopeful for a solution....or a great benefactor

If anyone fancies a start...see the protocols available

An autonomous system with internal BGP (IBGP) must have all of its IBGP peers connect to each other in a full mesh (where everyone speaks to everyone directly). This full-mesh configuration requires that each router maintain a session to every other router. In large networks, this number of sessions may degrade performance of routers, due either to a lack of memory, or too much CPU process requirements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gat ... ommunities


Also OpenWRT/meshed network for routers

https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1685

http://www.files.dc9723.org/arig.org.il ... tation.pdf

This is good! 01/10/2010 Response to the European Commission's consultation on the open Internet and net neutrality

http://guifi.net/en/node/33115

Also, http://www.laquadrature.net/en/eu-parli ... unications

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/a ... ament.html



....or, more interesting, perhaps, is SDR, Software Defined Radio

http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio/do ... radio.html

http://www.microtelecom.it/perseus/

PS: Sorry about the size of the gif/jpg

Aitch

[gcmartin]

Thanks @Aitch

What @Aitch is sharing with us is some information which is what has to be paid attention to should anyone endeavors to launch a move of this sort. This is a very complete list of factors needed to be understood and addressed. If we are to consider Puppy a community unto itself, it is reasonable to envision a grass-roots movement started using some of what he shows us.

If I can present a view of what he provides us, should be approach this from

• a policy position
• a regulatory position
• a technology position
• a protocol position

Further should we approach this from the grand scale position or should we look at it from a local personal level position?

On a personal level, the OpenWRT project would offer benefits for, say, in the home, or the car, or the cafe. If enough of these were to populate, the ability to scale by jumping technology and protocol issues would come into play. This also would grow from an initial "static" environment to a much more dynamic community.

Maybe Steve Job's vision will surface in the form of a document. Maybe some educational institution has already architected and engineered a working model. But, this seems to be an area where we could collaborate to build and test a model right here in Puppyland.

Where do we begin?

[Aitch]

OLSR?

http://www.olsr.org/?q=about

and a few friends

and ....... a MeshPuppy release imminent? (Mavrothal?)

Note: I have posted aerial boosters elsewhere, or google cantenna, wok reflector, parabolic reflector etc
Range of 1/2 mile easily achievable with standard wifi dongles, boosted, and is very easy to set up

see also http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=11831

Aitch:)

[linuxbear]

The old net included Boulder (my home town) because the National Bureau of standards, the Cesium based atomic clock and NCAR (National Center for Atmospheric research) is there. Urbana IL was on the grid probably because of the Super Collider @ Fermilab is there.