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Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 11:08**

Sage wrote:Following advice (01micko?) re. Opera, d/l Debian-Other from their website, petget offered to open/install - it worked, except closing message tells look under "Utility" - it was correctly listed under "Internet", but the Big Red 'O' was superimposed over 'Pup-Advert-Blocker' and Opera was listed higher up in the sub-menu without its icon.
Some tweaking needed.

Sage, the lupu pet works, though there is still a weird issue with the 'Pup advert blocker' icon... strange.

http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/puppyli ... -Lucid.pet (you may need to right click and 'save as', sometimes these mirrors do this, including ibiblio

)

It will work, you will find the same on ibiblio and other mirrors.

(01micko?)

'tweren't I! I swear! Biilltoo? Let's blame him! Or Bugman!

If you want it as your default browser then run this code:

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echo '#!/bin/sh' >  /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser

then

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echo 'exec opera "$@"' >> /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser

I take no responsibility.

Cheers

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 11:22**

Sorry about that, m - must've been Bill - he's been helping me a lot, too. It's no big deal that the 'O' is misplaced because the entire edifice works well. I found the Opera11alpha page, (strangely with Opera11 in Google!) so will give that a spin ASAP. What with Mint10 and a bunch of releases, I may run out of testing machines - three cheers for KVM.
Thanks for the .pet advice, though. And those CLI instructions are exactly what this guy needs. Struggling to get Eudora to sign up from Menu & desktop icon on Mint despite following the statement entries on the Eudora website - poor man's solution: find exe file location, cd, click it! Seemed to function a little better in Wary, fortunately, with the custom-made .pet! Thanks, fellas. How's the cricket shaping up in S. Oz?!

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 11:28**

Upgrade from Wary 0.9.6 with delta files succeeded. I was able to update my old pup-save file and everything worked out of the box on my old home brew desktop:

nVidia NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (no special nVidia driver installed).
ESS Technology ES1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive.
ASUS A7N8X ACPI BIOS Rev 1022 Beta 005 T1 Mother board

Nicoedit now opens non-utf-8 files as reported in Barry's blog, but some additional code page support would be appreciated. Some day, everything will be in utf-8, but we will still have gazillions of "legacy" documents to deal with.

The geany bug, error message "value too large for defined data type" when trying to open files on remote drives connected via smb/cifs is still present. Geany opened remote files in Wary 090, but I observed the problem again in Wary096.

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 12:54**

BarryK wrote:
Billtoo,
Did you use the Video Upgrade Wizard to install the ATI PET? If so, it runs 'aticonfig --initial' after it installs, so you shouldn't have had to do that.

I didn't use the upgrade wizard the first time so:

I booted the live cd with pfix=ram
Clicked on the video upgrade wizard and it downloaded the ati pet.
Rebooted and created the save file.
When it got back to the desktop a popup said to exit to the prompt and
type xwin, I did that and the popup appeared again so I ignored it and
clicked on the Nexuiz directory on the hd and started Nexuiz,it works

So the last popup advising to exit to the prompt keeps coming up even
after you've installed the pet and followed the instructions.

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 14:22**

upgrading from 094 to 098 via .deltas : OK
liveCD : Boot OK , detected an older warysave 070 on sdb1 HD which I didn't had chosen . Booting to Ram the driveicon sdb1 had its mount ball and didn't want to unmount . Unmounting via ROX /initrd/mnt/dev_save worked !

The Puppy universal installer installed wary-098 flawlessly into its own folder on sdc7 luci-218 full install .

First time I had been using grub4dos : Impression had been very good !
Some smaller demands from my side ( I think shinobar would be the right person to address ) :
Grub4dos didn't offer to which partition the menu.lst and glrdr files should go to, the 10 full installs didn't got a "root (hdx,y)" but a "UUID CDROM" entry and it took me some tries to recognize that grub4dos is treating its MBR-drive as 'hd0' even if it is 'sdc (hd2)' .

I would suggest to add a line to /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown :
line 907 : If you haven't already installed Puppy via the universal installer :

I also recocnized the missing `break` between the last two `done` at /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d which I seldom need to recover an accidentially clicked away drive icon.

The frugal install booted fine !
Nothing bad to report until now !
Well done !

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 14:43**

Karl Godt wrote:First time I had been using grub4dos : Impression had been very good !
Some smaller demands from my side ( I think shinobar would be the right person to address ) :
Grub4dos didn't offer to which partition the menu.lst and glrdr files should go to, the 10 full installs didn't got a "root (hdx,y)" but a "UUID CDROM" entry and it took me some tries to recognize that grub4dos is treating its MBR-drive as 'hd0' even if it is 'sdc (hd2)' .

Thanks for testing, Karl Godt.
But i am afraid i cannot follow the problem you are listing up on the UUID.
Shall we talk at another topic?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51697

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 15:26**

Fresh (each time) frugal install on Inspiron 1100 (2004 bios) works fine with i810 driver. flsynclient works and easy wireless connect (D-Link card with Atheros AR2414 chip, ath5k driver - had problems in wary 094, not 096). Sound and videos play fine.

Video upgrade wizard recommended mesa-6.5.2-w5;installed it. The OpenGL portion of hardinfo/Display gives:

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Vendor	Unknown
Renderer	Unknown
Version	Unknown
Direct Rendering	No

Adding mesa-demos-7.6-w5 plus the dependency freeglut-2006-02-08-w5 (ignoring the xorg_base dependency which crashes X much like Shinobar's experience) gives

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Vendor	Tungsten Graphics, Inc
Renderer	Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2
Version	1.3 Mesa 6.5.2
Direct Rendering	Yes

glxgears gives about 1800 frames per 5 sec, probably the highest I have seen on this laptop.

Ummm ... After a crash, I downloaded the mesa, etc. PETs directly for faster reinstall and now notice that mesa-demos and freeglut have disappeared from ibiblio ... surely the file privileges would have kept me from doing a move instead of a copy??? ... surely ...

Pnethood most often crashes my router, but that's nothing new. No further problems with apps noted. Retrovol is fine.

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 15:52**

Firefox4_beta7.sfs with dbus included http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 154#467154

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 15:53**

I'm running 098 on a 4gb ext4 formatted flash drive which has the
wary_devx_098.sfs and kernel_src-2.6.31.14-patched.sfs on it.
I installed 098 to this drive with the universal installer after
booting the live cd and used grub4dos to install the boot loader to
the flash drive.
On first boot I just rebooted and saved to the entire partition.
On the next boot I'm prompted to load the sfs files which I do.
I start seamonkey and go to the nvidia web site to get the driver for
my graphics card. http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
I download NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.21.run and reboot the computer.

Back at the desktop I exit to the prompt and go to the my-documents
directory and do "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.21.run" when it is
finished I let it change my xorg.conf file.
I enter "xwin" to get back to the desktop.
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 098

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
Accelerated graphics is working now.My card is an Nvidia Geforce 8600
GT.

Earlier today I tried the video upgrade wizard and downloaded the pet
that it recommended but it didn't work so I started over with a new
flash drive install, this one.

I think this NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.21.run driver just came out in
the past few days, I had used the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.12.run
driver in earlier versions of Wary.

Anyhow, it's working good for me

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 16:34**

shinobar wrote: Tried on my PC with NVIDIA Geforce 8800GTX.
First boot, nv or vesa i am not sure, got 1200x1048x24.
Installed nvidia-265 driver from the Video Upgrade Wizard.
Down to console, xorgwizard, chose nvidia, select 1200x1048x24, test.
After 'Test now', the PC freezes with black screen.

Got same symptom with nvidia-256 driver while upgrading on PC with “GeForce 8200M G

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 16:43**

Fresh frugal install (Lin'N'Win)
I downloaded the pidgin 2.7.5 pet from the wary package library and transformed it to a sfs.
Pidgin is working now, but the pidgin icon doesn't display in the system tray. Instead I have a kinda document icon with a small red cross.

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 17:38**

OK : One pup_event_frontend_d has to run in the background for hotplugging events like inserting an USB drive.

Thanks to zigbert :
/sbin/pup_event_frontend_d :
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#parameters
VERSIONP1="`cat /etc/DISTRO_SPECS | grep DISTRO_NAME | cut -f 2 -d \'`"
VERSIONP2="`cat /etc/DISTRO_SPECS | grep DISTRO_VERSION | cut -f 2 -d "="`"
while [ $# != 0 ]; do
	I=1
	while [ $I -lt `echo $# | wc -c` ]; do
		case $1 in
			-r|--recover-drive-icon) RECOVERDRIVEICON=1;;
			-v|--version) echo pup_event_frontend_d $VERSIONP1" "$VERSIONP2; exit;;
			-h|--help)
echo 'Usage: pup_event_frontend_d [-OPTION]

Options
  -h          Show this message
  -v          Show pup_event_frontend_d version number 
  -r          Recovering of driveicons only, no deamon mode'; exit;;
		esac
		shift
		I=$(($I+1))
	done
done

#v424 experiment, automatic unmounting...

line 804+ :

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if test "`echo $RECOVERDRIVEICON`" == "1"; then
RECOVERDRIVEICON=0
break
fi
done #2 second loop.


###END###

/usr/sbin/eventmanager :
line 315+ :
#v403 /sbin/clean_desk_icons can read this, then wipe all current icons...
[ "$ICONPARTITIONS" != "$NEWICONPARTITIONS" ] && echo "ICONPARTITIONS" > /tmp/pup_event_icon_change_flag
[ "$ICONDESK" != "$NEWICONDESK" ] && echo "ICONDESK" > /tmp/pup_event_icon_change_flag

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[ "$NEWICONWIPE" = "true" ] && echo "ICONWIPE" > /tmp/pup_event_icon_change_flag ; exec `pup_event_frontend_d -r` &#v411

/sbin/clean_desk_icons seems not to run properly : didn't recover the drive icon but added a second USB icon on the floppy icon.

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 17:55**

The good news was that 096 got me to orgwiz, but then couldn't find a compatible card/res/driver combo that worked. The bad, bad news is that 098 won't even boot beyond the 'switch' before Col. Panic shows his ugly mug.
For YT, even worse news is that the only PCI-E cards I possess are nV, which are incompatible with this ATI-based 939 board (MS7184/7093) so I have to use the onboard graphics, which was also intended to save some amps by avoiding those grisly all-singing-dancing video cards. Absolute bummer as I've built the case into my new lounge setup to drive the tele. Back to the drawing board for us all...

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 18:28**

@sage

Try booting from live CD using the kernel cheat code "puppy pfix=ram" and see if that will boot your system.

If it boots up successfully like this, then something has gone amiss inside your pupsave - assuming you have one. Sometimes upgrading a pupsave file to a bumped Puppy version can cause this.

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 18:39**

This is the liveCD, tronk - I always use pfix=ram in these situations. There is a swap partition available, but nothing installed that's relevant (a Slack-64bit on disk).
The good news is that Lupu boots up flawlessly with minimum intervention, on-board graphics, live-CD, nothing saved or installed (except Slack).
Sorry, chaps, this is a home-grown Wary feature. Guess The Boss will have some comments when he awakes tomorrow.

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 20:04**

@sage
Hmmm, that's a bit odd to say the least.
Is there perhaps another wary_xxx.sfs already on the Slack partition that is interfering with the boot sequence? Long shot, but I would check it out anyway.

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 20:20**

Absolutely not. I don't believe in frugals, anyway. But the effect is reproducible. This is a new feature of 098. Shame, because it functions better than ever on most other kit. I am, however, totally confident in this piece of hardware - everything else is rock solid on it.

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 23:43**

Selecting Preferences then clicking OK kills Asunder.
See the log file attached

Posted: **Sun 14 Nov 2010, 23:54**

[quote="pakt"]Barry, the problem with the savefile/xorgwizard menu extending below the edge of the screen is still present in wary-098.

Your mod in rc.country, “FONTMAP='’ #101112“, doesn’t blank the variable for some strange reason. The contents of /etc/fontmap is still “lat1-12.psfu

Posted: **Mon 15 Nov 2010, 00:06**

Bummer

The same as 096, 098 finds my Pctel internal modem but finds NO CARRIER when it tries to dial.
-> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.53
--> Initializing modem.
--> Sending: ATZ
ATZ
OK
--> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
OK
--> Modem initialized.
--> Sending: ATX3DT9083735
--> Waiting for carrier.
ATX3DT9083735
NO CARRIER
ERROR
--> No Carrier! Trying again.
--> Sending: ATX3DT9083735
--> Waiting for carrier.
ATX3DT9083735
NO CARRIER
ERROR
--> No Carrier! Trying again.
--> Sending: ATX3DT9083735
--> Waiting for carrier.
ATX3DT9083735
NO CARRIER
ERROR
--> No Carrier! Trying again.
--> Sending: ATX3DT9083735
--> Waiting for carrier.
ATX3DT9083735
NO CARRIER
ERROR
--> No Carrier! Trying again.

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Re: NVIDIA driver 265 failed

Asunder crashes

NO CARRIER