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Sailor Enceladus · #281 Post by **Sailor Enceladus** » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 09:36

zigbert wrote:
radky wrote:setting the system's locale to a unibyte locale
What does this mean? How do I do that?

I tried adding alias grep='LC_ALL=C grep' to /root/.bashrc in slacko, seems to be working now with your forum example.

zigbert · #282 Post by **zigbert** » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 11:01

Download links in http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 080#444080 is dead.

My printer works without hplip (using the cups driver), but only in 32-bit.

Jades · #283 Post by **Jades** » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 16:40

Any thoughts about the issue I have with LiveCD boots not looking for the save files?

When testing Puppy I usually boot from the CD and do some basic set up. I then copy the main SFS files from the CD to the PuppyFiles folder on sdb1 which is formatted NTFS and has my Windows XP install on. I prefer to have the Puppy files in a sub directory as it keeps the root directory nice and tidy and makes sure all of my Puppy stuff is in one place.

Once happy with the setup I then initiate a reboot, choosing to create a 1GB ext4 save file in the usual PuppyFiles folder on sdb1 and giving it a descriptive name (so 6961new for this version which becomes slacko64save-6961new.4fs). I decline the offer to copy the sfs files (having already done so manually) and wait for the computer to reboot.

When the machine has finished POST I hold down the key to bring up the menu to select the boot device and select the DVD writer. Normally this will start booting Puppy from the CD and the search routine will pick up the SFS and save files in /mnt/sdb1/PuppyFiles and use them to boot. At the moment, however, it doesn't see them and carries on with booting from the CD and ends up with a fresh first run session like you would get from intentionally booting pfix=ram on previous versions or selecting the 'boot with no savefile' option on recent test builds.

The files are clearly there in the folder (see screenshot) but they just aren't being seen. If I copied them to the root directory Puppy would then spot them on booting but I don't want to have the root directory of the XP install cluttered.

Jades · #284 Post by **Jades** » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 18:07

Sailor Enceladus wrote:Does full install work for you with Xenialpup64 7.0.7 and Xenialpup 7.0.4? I'm guessing both work but just to be sure.

I've only tested it on Xenialpup64 7.0.7, it boots up fine as a full install. LiveCD boot also works without issue and managed to see the save files in sdb1/PuppyFiles when searching for them on boot.

Sailor Enceladus · #285 Post by **Sailor Enceladus** » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 18:21

Jades wrote:If I copied them to the root directory Puppy would then spot them on booting
but I don't want to have the root directory of the XP install cluttered.

@Jades: About savefiles in a sub-folder on HDD, what are your thoughts about this post?

jlst wrote:Regarding the puppy saves, you have your stuff hidden somewhere. do you use the PSUBDIR boot param?

This is a new thing. It doesn't look in the subdirectories in all partitions unless you specify
where, to save time for those (most?) who don't want it to search everywhere, I think.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107178

Jades · #286 Post by **Jades** » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 19:01

Sailor Enceladus wrote:
jlst wrote:Regarding the puppy saves, you have your stuff hidden somewhere. do you use the PSUBDIR boot param?
This is a new thing. It doesn't look in the subdirectories in all partitions unless you specify
where, to save time for those (most?) who don't want it to search everywhere, I think.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107178

I normally just boot off the CD without entering any boot params and wasn't aware of the changes listed in the post you've linked to (I've only recently returned to Puppy testing so am still a little out of the loop). To be honest I've never really had any problems with waiting for it searching for the files, the only occasions where it causes a significant delay are when I've forgotten to eject a floppy disk.

IIRC Puppy knows how it's booted, would it be possible for it to detect it's booted from a CD and search one directory deep (thus finding my files) in that instance? I know that on a typical Frugal or Full one has usually told the system where the files are in menu.lst (for example).

gcmartin · #287 Post by **gcmartin** » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 19:27

Boots via DVD without issues to a BIOS 64bit non-touch PC. Must commend the author for the latest Utility to add JAVA to the running system. Excellent, straight-forward, easily understood.

SAMBA SSM clearly sets up folders for sharing content with other Home devices.

ON this BIOS system, no real issues, thus far. On pristine boot, video, audio, keyboard, firewall, wired-network, all working without issues. Thanks to all on this alpha3's current progress.

This system is "really" a VERY USER FRIENDLY PUP distro. It demonstrates how far PUPPY LInux has come in making it so easy for users to use, understand as well as to extend its ability to integrate within the home.

Have seen an issue with the current pBurn when complete blanking a disc. (This has been reported on another thread). And, there seems to be a minor issue with its buffering as noted in the progress screen.

Next test is to start KVM (QEMU) to use for booting-testing PUP ISO/IMG(s).

Update1:ROX icon issue; not showing green indicator f/mounted CIF resource. I have a mount of a LAN resource mounted at /mnt/TV/Download. Although the green indicator doesn't show, the folder is populated as it should be. Low priority as all functions well.

Update2: PPM issue 1 In preparation for QEMU's addition to the pristine system, I Used the PPM to config itself. When it updated, it ran into issues as noted in the last screen, below. Not sure what to make of the Update error shown in the Update Progress file attached below.

Update3: PPM issue 2 Searched for QEMU. PPM shows 3 items: V2.6 available (Salix), V2.4 available and the QEMU Control Center (none of which is showing "Installed"). I selected V2.6 only. After successful completion, the PPM screen now shows V2.4 AND V2.4 INSTALLED.

I NEVER selected V2.4. Confusing is the issue in this update. Low priority assuming all functions well.

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Report, below, applies to Update2, above

zigbert · #288 Post by **zigbert** » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 21:08

Info in usr/share/doc/home.htm is somewhat outdated, isn't it.

Actually, many of the Puppy pages in /usr/share/doc should have been updated. Maybe a task for someone with the liking of written words...

zigbert · #289 Post by **zigbert** » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 21:10

gcmartin
Did you follow the instructions on your screenshot? Did you reload the disc before verifying? I can't see any unusual with the screenshot.

Sailor Enceladus · #290 Post by **Sailor Enceladus** » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 21:19

zigbert wrote:Info in usr/share/doc/home.htm is somewhat outdated, isn't it.

Actually, many of the Puppy pages in /usr/share/doc should have been updated. Maybe a task for someone with the liking of written words...

I tried making a wi-fi page for "How to get on the Internet" once, maybe someone can do better?

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=916955#916955

gcmartin · #291 Post by **gcmartin** » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 21:35

@Zigbert. Yes, I did. This has occurred on several occasions last couple days with the recent use in 3 different distros; 32bit and 64bit with .16 and .17 versions.

If there is other reports you want from me, I will post where you indicate I should. The 5 64bit PC&Laptops I have are almost a decade old.

gcmartin · #292 Post by **gcmartin** » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 23:30

Additional findings:

PPM Seamonkey addition is missing libs

HDMI on NUC6i7KYK has video but no sound. Already reported, but, if this info is helpful, I am including it:

zigbert · #293 Post by **zigbert** » Mon 26 Sep 2016, 21:29

I looked through DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS and found these packages...
Why are these required?

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yes|cdparanoia|cdparanoia|exe,dev,doc,nls
yes|libcdio-paranoia|libcdio-paranoia|exe,dev,doc,nls
yes|bacon||exe
yes|libid3tag|libid3tag|exe,dev,doc,nls
yes|normalize|normalize|exe,dev,doc,nls

gcmartin · #294 Post by **gcmartin** » Tue 27 Sep 2016, 01:45

Mick, as you move to Beta, check PM.

Sailor Enceladus · #295 Post by **Sailor Enceladus** » Tue 27 Sep 2016, 20:48

zigbert wrote:I looked through DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS and found these packages...
Why are these required?
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yes|cdparanoia|cdparanoia|exe,dev,doc,nls
yes|libcdio-paranoia|libcdio-paranoia|exe,dev,doc,nls
yes|bacon||exe
yes|libid3tag|libid3tag|exe,dev,doc,nls
yes|normalize|normalize|exe,dev,doc,nls

I guess you have been following this? I don't know if anything still needs Bacon in Slacko 6.9.6.1 or its repository, if so I think the file /usr/bin/bacon can be moved to the devx though (as it seems to need the /usr/share/BaCon files and cc files from there to compile anyway). I actually liked the bacon welcome1stboot design more though, it had bigger writing and felt more inviting.

Insomniacno1 · #296 Post by **Insomniacno1** » Thu 29 Sep 2016, 09:26

Hi 01micko, good news. I got to the desktop on this 32bit Slacko. Touchscreen works - but not good to use as its extremely hard to hit anything, so it would be better with keyboard/mouse attached. My USB hub is out at a friends place(he is trying to find a power adapter) so can't test that right now, but here is the HW and followed by my procedure:

Odys WinTab 8 is an 8" Windows 8.1 Tablet powered by Intels Bay Trail-T platform with an Intel Atom Z3735E quadcore 64bit processor. Built in is a microSDHC slot for expansion of storage of up to 32GB. 1GB of RAM. 1 microUSB port which is host(OTG) capable and a 3.5mm headphone jack.

Manufacturer Odys
Model name Wintab 8
CPU type Intel Atom Z3735E
CPU speed 1330 Mhz
Graphics Intel HD (Gen 7 Baytrail)
Fanless YES
OS Microsoft Windows 8.1
Display Size 8.0" 1280 X 800
Screen Type LED-Backlit LCD
Touchscreen type Multi-touch
RAM 1024 MB
SSD 16 GB
Battery capacity 16 Wh
802.11 b/g/n
BT 4.0
No Wireless WAN (e.g. 3G cellular)

32bit UEFI bios

The bios can be accessed by holding both volume buttons while turning on the tablet, so you don't have to boot to windows first. Secure boot and quick boot is turned off by me.

The partition scheme is as follows:

1. 100MB EFI
2. Windows C: - Windows 8.1 with bing - 9.30GB with 3.20GB free
3. Recovery - 5.15GB used

Seems to be using Wimboot.

Procedure(with allot of help from people here):

I used mkusb to wipe my usb(Sandisk 32GB Dual USB drive, usb 2.0) totally, then gdisk to zap GPT partition table and remove MBR. Then partitioned and formatted with Gparted to Fat32 and made boot flag - and extracted Ted Dog's uefi.zip to the usb drive and copied slacko iso files to the usb, the edited grub.cfg with geany and added

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kernel vmlinuz  pmedia=usbflash i915.modeset=0

made sure everything were as suppose to.

Files on usb :

devx_slacko_6.9.6.1.sfs
fdrv_slacko_6.9.6.1.sfs
puppy_slacko_6.9.6.1.sfs
zdrv_slacko_6.9.6.1.sfs
drivers (folder)
grub.cfg
Shellx64.efi
EFI (folder)
initrd.gz
slacko-6.9.6.1-uefi (folder)
keys (folder)
slacko-6.9.6.1-uefi.iso

Added the renamed grubia32.efi, now bootia32.efi to /EFI/boot/

Unmount the usb and eject it.

Then boot to Tablets boot manager, and choose boot options.
Choose EFI USB Device

I get the boot menu were I can choose slacko-6.9.6.1-uefi.iso

I choose slacko-6.9.6.1-uefi.iso then it starts booting and find the required .sfs files and goes to desktop.

The 64bit did the same but hanged after reaching the desktop.

I have sent you pm with a link to a file that contains my setup, just extract it to a "clean" Fat32 formatted usb with boot flag. You should add devx yourself. Let me know when you have downloaded it so i can remove it from Dropbox:)

For anyone interested, they can follow my efforts here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=108295

sszindian · #297 Post by **sszindian** » Thu 29 Sep 2016, 21:09

FYI

It appears Slacko64 Alpha 3 has taken care of the HP printing issue!

Installed hplip package from PPM... printer and scanner both work now on my HP 1050 All-In-One.

On with testing........

>>>---Indian------>

01micko · #298 Post by **01micko** » Thu 29 Sep 2016, 23:10

gyro wrote:
1. Major problems displaying application windows, e.g. geany.
Soloution: Add /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf file containing:
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Section "Device"
   Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
   Driver      "intel"
   Option      "AccelMethod"  "uxa"
EndSection
I have the same problem with xenialpup.

Ok, I now see this too on my wife's mackbook air (using 'el capitan'), so I added the intel.conf and it is fixed.

I tested out a script to make a USB install for UEFI (this machine requires it - only one in the house) and it works fine on a FAT 32 stick based on jamesbonds method here.

I see Insomniaco1 has sent me something similar in a PM. I'll check it out soon.

Whatever eventuates, I'll include some sort of UEFI install to usb script in the grub-efi package in woof.

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sszindian - thats good.

. Glad you can now print. I have some troubles scanning. But I do think its my scanner (canon mp490 - old now) as it is acting up in my old slacko install too after being stable for a long while; printing is fine though.

01micko · #299 Post by **01micko** » Thu 29 Sep 2016, 23:52

@Insomniaco1

So your problem is that you need 32 bit UEFI? That isn't good as only a small number (supposedly) require 32 bit. I suppose for final testing (in a month or 2) I can add that but for now I don't have the bandwidth to upload 3 or 4 iso images.

Anyway, attached is my pet for UEFI USB installing. As mentioned, I tested on the mackbook air and it is working acceptably. The touchpad is crap (no right click or scrolling) but I use a mouse on it anyway. Sound and wifi [bcrmsmac] worked ootb, as they have in previous slackos (before the thing needed EFI boot).

gcmartin · #300 Post by **gcmartin** » Fri 30 Sep 2016, 00:35

@01Micko. If you have a HDMI TV, would you test a boot to it? Video has worked on the few test TVs, but, seem to be an issue with sound. Are you and anyone else experiencing sound issues over the HDMI cable to the TV's speakers?

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