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What is the best Puppy Version ever, LOL

2.14x
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29%
2.14x
4
11%
2.14x
11
29%
Other: 2.14x only
12
32%
 
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#2681 Post by clarf »

Hi ttuuxxx,

I installed Qt-Lite package and tested some Qt applications. I used my Smplayer package (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=341784), Q-Simplesheet, Open Document Editor, fatrat and TexMakerX. These are good looking and small applications.

I had problems in TexMakerX using some Tools, the "convert to HTML" and the PDF functions does not seems to work. Anyway someone with more expertise using a LaTex editor could test it and a proper way.

The Smplayer, QSimpleshhet and fatrat worked fine.

ttuuxxx, I found something really interesting in your QT-Lite package :) , it includes a big file "libQtWebKit" (about 27 MB). This library seems to be used to view or edit HTML, XML code and few applications really need it.

TexMakerX Tools didn't work at all, so I did a small test deleting this fat file after installing the Qt-Lite package. All my Qt applications still worked without errors (no changes for TexMakerX problems). I could even save text documents as .html files in Open Document Editor :shock: , that really surprised me, now I think this library is used for some browser (maybe Google-earth), but not really used for common applications.

ttuuxxx, :idea: you could create a smaller Qt-Lite package removing this big "libQtWebKit" file or just add another Qt-Lite-no-QtWebKit pet. Qt applications are very explicit about a missing library, if some application need this FAT file, then the user could download the Qt-Lite package that includes it.

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#2682 Post by ttuuxxx »

clarf wrote:Hi ttuuxxx,

I installed Qt-Lite package and tested some Qt applications. I used my Smplayer package (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=341784), Q-Simplesheet, Open Document Editor, fatrat and TexMakerX. These are good looking and small applications.

I had problems in TexMakerX using some Tools, the "convert to HTML" and the PDF functions does not seems to work. Anyway someone with more expertise using a LaTex editor could test it and a proper way.

The Smplayer, QSimpleshhet and fatrat worked fine.

ttuuxxx, I found something really interesting in your QT-Lite package :) , it includes a big file "libQtWebKit" (about 27 MB). This library seems to be used to view or edit HTML, XML code and few applications really need it.

TexMakerX Tools didn't work at all, so I did a small test deleting this fat file after installing the Qt-Lite package. All my Qt applications still worked without errors (no changes for TexMakerX problems). I could even save text documents as .html files in Open Document Editor :shock: , that really surprised me, now I think this library is used for some browser (maybe Google-earth), but not really used for common applications.

ttuuxxx, :idea: you could create a smaller Qt-Lite package removing this big "libQtWebKit" file or just add another Qt-Lite-no-QtWebKit pet. Qt applications are very explicit about a missing library, if some application need this FAT file, then the user could download the Qt-Lite package that includes it.

clarf
Hi clarf as the libQtWebKit goes, yes I was thinking of having it in a separate pet package, but actually one of the qt-apps uses, I forget which one, and also bibletime, midori uses it also.
The home-brew and folder encryption apps only use 2 qt libs. They could be packaged really small. I did make a post on Barry's blog about the size of Webkit and that it was stripped and still 26MB where as when I looked at Tinycore Linux QT repo webkit the qt package was a bit older maybe a couple of months, but his webkit was 13MB 1/2 the size. Barry never responded back, I did read he was building a new QT package for puppy but never seen it uploaded, and his current one is too old many apps don't compile with it and it doesn't have webkit at all, so that makes it useless for many newer apps. I really do hate compiling Qt due to 6hrs or it takes to compile and package.
Thanks for the feedback, :)
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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scribus-1.3.3.13-i386-ENG.pet

#2683 Post by yorkiesnorkie »

Hi,

I know this is a bit off topic. I tried using Puppy's Package manager and the previous version of scribus in the Puppy Linux 3 repository does not work with Puppy Linux 4.3.1.

So, I tried your updated version of Scribus for the 2.14 series in Puppy Linux 4.3.1 and it does work. I found it on the first page of this post.
I played around with it, created a small four page document, and created a PDF from that which was perfectly acceptable, it seems fully functional and doesn't crash or anything. I thought you'd like to know.

I've got to try this new updated Puppy 2.14! Procrastination is a terrible thing...

Many thanks for the packages,

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Re: scribus-1.3.3.13-i386-ENG.pet

#2684 Post by ttuuxxx »

yorkiesnorkie wrote:Hi,

I know this is a bit off topic. I tried using Puppy's Package manager and the previous version of scribus in the Puppy Linux 3 repository does not work with Puppy Linux 4.3.1.

So, I tried your updated version of Scribus for the 2.14 series in Puppy Linux 4.3.1 and it does work. I found it on the first page of this post.
I played around with it, created a small four page document, and created a PDF from that which was perfectly acceptable, it seems fully functional and doesn't crash or anything. I thought you'd like to know.

I've got to try this new updated Puppy 2.14! Procrastination is a terrible thing...

Many thanks for the packages,

Yorkiesnorkie
Thats great to know, I never tried it on 4 series :)
excellent :)
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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#2685 Post by clarf »

Hi guys, I was working with dropbear for remote Server Administration. I liked it so I started to make two GUI. One for the Server and other for the Client sides.

The Server GUI is done, I attach the three configuration windows made with Xdialog...

I´m working in the client GUI now. I plan to make it a little more complex, it should include profiles and multiple Box or tabs in the same Window. I think I should use gtkDialog, seems a complete week work cause the learning curve for gtkDialog (also started to read the GtkDialog tips thread).

I don´t know how much people actually could be interested on it. Maybe MHHP?. Any comment is welcome...

Greetings,
clarf
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#2686 Post by ttuuxxx »

clarf wrote:Hi guys, I was working with dropbear for remote Server Administration. I liked it so I started to make two GUI. One for the Server and other for the Client sides.

The Server GUI is done, I attach the three configuration windows made with Xdialog...

I´m working in the client GUI now. I plan to make it a little more complex, it should include profiles and multiple Box or tabs in the same Window. I think I should use gtkDialog, seems a complete week work cause the learning curve for gtkDialog (also started to read the GtkDialog tips thread).

I don´t know how much people actually could be interested on it. Maybe MHHP?. Any comment is welcome...

Greetings,
clarf
Very nice start clarf !!! :) hmmm maybe make a small applet that swallows to the taskbar once the program starts with a couple of options

Dropbear menu
Stop
Restart
Launch GUI
Quit

ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
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#2687 Post by clarf »

ttuuxxx wrote: Very nice start clarf !!! :) hmmm maybe make a small applet that swallows to the taskbar once the program starts with a couple of options

Dropbear menu
Stop
Restart
Launch GUI
Quit

ttuuxxx
Great idea ttuuxxx... Don´t know how to accomplish it, but I´ll search for it.

EDIT: I found a small app called gtrayicon used for Pwireless2. I can use it for the applet, but first I must do some little modifications for the start and kill process code. I found a good link about SSH/Telnet connections: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Te ... mmand_Line

EDIT2: Its working now :) . Some little things left like icons and right click menu. hmmm, I think this gtrayicon applet could be used for ftpServer and many other things... Well, I need some rest now, it´s like 3 a.m. now. :twisted:
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#2688 Post by ttuuxxx »

clarf wrote:Well, I need some rest now, it´s like 3 a.m. now. :twisted:
Well look at your eyes they look bloodshot and really red :wink: gets some sleep, there's always tomorrow :)
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#2689 Post by Aitch »

ttuuxxx

eric's server downloads of 214xRC2.iso are frozen - 6/1/2010
Concurrent download limit exceeded.
Aitch :)
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#2690 Post by ttuuxxx »

Aitch wrote:ttuuxxx

eric's server downloads of 214xRC2.iso are frozen - 6/1/2010
Concurrent download limit exceeded.
Aitch :)
when I get that I just hit the refresh like twice on the browser and it usually it lets it go :)
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#2691 Post by Aitch »

OK ttuuxxx
I got it a bit later

Thankfully the copy/paste in a browser/forum post is now working - RC1 didn't on my copy???

When are you going to do ttuuxxxwebserverpuppy and host your own files? :wink:

Aitch :)
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#2692 Post by sullysat »

FYI,

I will be mirroring 214X and *many* of the apps developed during its evolution on my puppy page (see below) as soon as the puplet goes final.

I hope to have most of the apps online and available in the next week or so. At that time I will post whatever the latest version of 214X is available.

Sully
Puppy Files Mirror - [b][url]http://www.wisdom-seekers.com/puppy.html[/url][/b]
Classic Puppy Page - [b][url]http://www.wisdom-seekers.com/puppy214x.html[/url][/b]
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#2693 Post by Caneri »

Hey Sully,

Very cool....well done my friend.

Eric
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#2694 Post by Caneri »

I am getting a java bot hitting me every few days.

I think this is why you see this
Concurrent download limit exceeded.

Bandwidth is under control so far and all is well.

This is something that has been a bain from the start and my new web page may be enabling this.

I think I should go back to a static html to solve this but I thought a new front page would be nice.

Eric

HI Aitch..HNY
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#2695 Post by James C »

Still running 214X RC2 every day, just no problems to report...... :lol:
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#2696 Post by davesurrey »

Still running 214X RC2 every day, just no problems to report
Same here. The only (really really trivial) thing I saw was that on a new frugal install the icon for "Refresh menu" is missing. Simply setting the Puppy Icon Switcher again fixes it. But as I say it's trivial.

Perhaps it's time for a final release. Things can always be improved and added to but overall this is a lovely, stable, very usable distro and IMHO deserves Final status. It might also encourage others to use it who just might be put-off seeing it as an RC.

Additions can then be made in the form of pets and all those with an install to HDD would not have to go through a re-install process again.

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#2697 Post by ttuuxxx »

davesurrey wrote:
Still running 214X RC2 every day, just no problems to report
Same here. The only (really really trivial) thing I saw was that on a new frugal install the icon for "Refresh menu" is missing. Simply setting the Puppy Icon Switcher again fixes it. But as I say it's trivial.

Perhaps it's time for a final release. Things can always be improved and added to but overall this is a lovely, stable, very usable distro and IMHO deserves Final status. It might also encourage others to use it who just might be put-off seeing it as an RC.

Additions can then be made in the form of pets and all those with an install to HDD would not have to go through a re-install process again.

Cheers
Dave
Hi Dave I've been thinking about for some time now, But then I look at the page numbers and well were almost at page 200 :) hmmm I think that would make a excellent Final release number, The first puppy thread ever to hit 200 pages, I know we could do it:)
lol But there hasn't been much issues lately. what do you guys think?
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#2698 Post by clarf »

Perhaps it's time for a final release. Things can always be improved and added to but overall this is a lovely, stable, very usable distro and IMHO deserves Final status. It might also encourage others to use it who just might be put-off seeing it as an RC.
I agree... Although there are some little things to adjust before a final release, I´m sure some problem could arise when the final release go out cause the different hardware platforms.

We could start a new temporal thread announcing a Final pre-release version (aka RC-3 version) and a line time for the final release, so other user could give a final test. More testers are always welcome.

This is my wish list:

- Remove laptop_battery_meter.pet from /etc, it is not necessary we count with automatic detection now.
- Add new tkgamma pet to save Gamma settings.
- Add clarf_ICW_fix pet.
- Add latest Xvesa_desktop_icons_fix pet.
- Add latest Control Panel settings.
- Update Superswitcher to SVN 37 (to avoid segmentation faults)
- Update rdesktop to 1.6 version.
- Add menu entry for tcl Remote Desktop (214X RC2 already counts with /usr/sbin/remotedesktopclient executable).
- Add dropbear SSH client/server and my almost done GUI :wink: .
- Remove double entry for Internet - Getez

Did I forget something???

Greetings,
clarf
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#2699 Post by davesurrey »

Well based on how quickly we went 20 pages from 160 to 180 and from 140 to 160 I estimate we would hit page 200 around 19 Feb which happens to be my Birthday. So instead of a Christmas present I'd get a nice birthday surprise. :-)

Seriously, I know this has been a really fun project and all the folk here have been really cooperative and helpful but all good things must end and, as you say, very little has come up recently.
So my vote is to release a Final, which will emphasise this is really stable and ready.

(If you want a 200 page thread then I bet Puppy on XO-1 could end up that way !!!!! :-) )

Cheers
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#2700 Post by davesurrey »

Hi clarf,
It's a good list for "final" additions/fixes.
I'm not sure whether making a time line and giving everyone more time would encourage more testers. We all know that even after a extensive beta test programme folk will always find some bug with some configuration in the final release.
But let's see what others say.
Cheers
Dave
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