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lupu 5.2.8.6 20131114

My Netgear N150 Wireless USB network adapter will not work in this version of Lupu, but does in Lupu3hd 5.2.8.6

The driver module ath9k_htc usb is what is needed.

This driver module is in Lupu3hd, but not in Lupu 5.2.8.6

Seems Lupu3hd has a better driver module support.

Edit:
I think this may be the reason, as stated here by tempestuous.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 417#513417
Seems the slight difference, in the Linux kernel, in Lupu3hd, is a factor in support for this needed driver.

Nice improvements to fbpanel configuration.
Much easier to use.

I have no problem finding Grub4dos config in the menu.
Nice feature making it available in several locations.

You do know what happens when you say:
"official announcement pending"?

Must be time to really start testing.

Hi Richard

Tested the 2013114 iso....Broadcom WL automatically chosen for my wifi and working fine....

2 small comments if I may:

- I think you could safely upgrade Openbox to version 3.5.0 - I've tried it and it seems to work fine

- on startup SNS is run as the default connection manager - perhaps this should now be replaced by your much improved and well tested Frisbee??

▶—— Distro Specifications ——◀

Distro: Lucid 528
Desktop Panel: fbpanel 6.1
Window Manager: Openbox 3.5.0
Desktop Start: xwin openbox

Cheers
peebee

Thanks for all of the feedback on 20131114.

OscarTalks, thanks for pointing out the update to pmusic. Unfortunately it must have come out after I grabbed pmusic, so will be corrected next time I upload (and there appear to be reasons to do that). Grub4dos seems to specify all 3 places. I think shinobar provided it -- and I yield to his choices. I am open to upgrading JWM, but do not know where to get it. Any guidance on that (to pet package) is welcome.

bigpup wrote:Not sure if this is a problem or feature.
Seems to be some pet files and remaster scripts in /root

It's a mistake. I use those for the different remasters and copied them somewhere else for use, but forgot to uninstall the package containing them. Will fix.

peebee wrote:- I think you could safely upgrade Openbox to version 3.5.0 - I've tried it and it seems to work fine

- on startup SNS is run as the default connection manager - perhaps this should now be replaced by your much improved and well tested Frisbee??

Where do I get the openbox pet package, in the slacko 5.5 download library? I would like to add it, given your confidence in it. Re SNS, I am reluctant to force users to switch to frisbee, preferring to keep everything familiar.
Richard

Hi Richard,

I don't think Shinobar will mind if you taylor things to the needs of the distro. My suggestion would be to edit the line in the desktop file to just read:-
Categories=X-SystemMemory
and remove the rest. This just keeps Grub4Dos next to Grub Legacy and is more tidy. It isn't a feature that people use very often anyway. I do know that BK has done a lot of reorganising of the menu structure since the previous Lucid, so sometimes these things do need to be adapted, but I will of course respect your decision if you prefer to leave it as it is now.

Regarding JWM, I have compiled the latest snapshot 876 and uploaded it to my Yandex Disk here:-
http://yadi.sk/d/zTshLczR4wHj8
snapshot 871 is also there which I have been using for a while so is more tested but I reckon the latest will be the best one to go for.

You can also grab the jwmconfig2 package from there.
The version jwmconfig2-130504 is the one by 01micko which is in Slacko
The version jwmconfig2-130504-5 is (as I understand it) the one which has later been tweaked a little bit by BarryK for Woof and is in Precise so probably best to use that one (also in ibiblio pet_packages-noarch repo).

Oh, and Zigbert has just released pBurn 4.3.0

rerwin wrote:Where do I get the openbox pet package
Richard

Hi Richard

See the 2nd post at:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80569

Works fine for me.
Regards
Peter

p.s. Openbox is now at v3.5.2 but they've significantly changed the window placement logic....

Regarding SNS and/or Frisbee -
keep SNS because for a newbie it is so easy to use - and seems to work well most of the time.

Maybe a Frisbee SFS could be made available for those times when SNS needs a little help.

Frisbee is generally easy to use and would be nice to have as an option, it is very good when one is out and about roaming.

BTW Richard - what you are doing with Lupu is fantastic - much appreciated.

Many thanks and very best regards to all involved.

Ray MK wrote:Frisbee is generally easy to use and would be nice to have as an option

Hi Ray

Just answering for Richard - Frisbee is already there as an option.....

Cheers
Peter

Still testing lupu 5.2.8.6 20131114

JWM snapshot 876 and jwmconfig2-130504-5 all looking OK

Installed latest Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) 24.1.1esr

Also my SlimBoat browser 1.1.43.pet runs nicely.

Menus tweaked as mentioned before and looking neat.

Also my SlimBoat browser 1.1.43.pet runs nicely.

Oscar. This looks interesting. It is not going to be smaller than Firefox though. I like that the web site has special instructions for Puppy. I also like that the latest version runs in Lucid--we are down to Firefox and Seamonkey otherwise. Did you install the gstreamer libs? Is it worth packaging? Thanks. Wait, I see you have packaged it. If a few people could test I could add it to the Lucid repo.
http://www.slimboat.com/en/dlpage.php

Oscar's Slimboat pet -> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 554#737334

Add: Looks great. Starts up faster than Firefox.

rerwin, There is a problem with "select default browser, just to the right of the Menu button. If one uses it, it doesn't write the /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser correctly for the Help to work (i.e, Abiword -> Help -> Help Contents, etc.). The exec line in defaultbrowser varies of course, but for Help to work it needs the argument at the end. Select default browser is not writing that. That is probably the problem that Bigpup reported a week or so ago. I think it happened because we fixed the Help in 005 but select default browser predated that. I would say easiest to just delete it, or someone will have to fix the script. Browsers in the repo write correct defaultbrowser.

playdayz wrote:rerwin, There is a problem with "select default browser, just to the right of the Menu button. If one uses it, it doesn't write the /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser correctly for the Help to work (i.e, Abiword -> Help -> Help Contents, etc.). The exec line in defaultbrowser varies of course, but for Help to work it needs the argument at the end. Select default browser is not writing that. That is probably the problem that Bigpup reported a week or so ago. I think it happened because we fixed the Help in 005 but select default browser predated that. I would say easiest to just delete it, or someone will have to fix the script. Browsers in the repo write correct defaultbrowser.

I tested the "browser-default" script and it produced the correct text in defaultbrowser. All 3 of the Help items displayed as expected. The code appears to include the "$@" part.

Could you show us the examples of the failure? The script uses /usr/share/application/*.desktop files to find the browsers. Could you list the content of the .desktop file for a browser that does not get set up right?

I would like to hand this off to radky, if he will take it, since it is the object of a launch button in pfbpanel. But we need some data to test with.
Richard

rerwin, i am doing some more testing. When I install Firefox, defaultbrowser is OK, but if I then use the select browser installer and choose Firefox, it writes an incorrect entry without the argument. However, it appears that with Firefox, the Help works even without the proper argument in defaultbrowser (because I guess of the way the Help hack is structured, maybe, or with the way Firefox is invoked). So, not worth any trouble. I will keep looking--radky can pm me with any ideas. Whatever it is, it's left over from 005 and no one has ever complained that I know of.

Hi playdayz,

Its great to see you on the forum again. Welcome home!

After installing Firefox-24 via Quickpet I can't replicate the problem you describe for the browser-default script. Changing the default browser reliably appends the "$@" argument to the new selection in /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser, and Abiword help is OK.

However, if the browser-default script is inconsistent in some scenarios, a possible replacement would be the well-tested 'defaults-chooser' utility (below) which correctly appends the "$@" argument to the new browser selection. Plus, it has the advantage of an intuitive interface for quickly changing many additional default applications in usr/loca/bin/.

defaults-chooser: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=03059

Hey radky, I am glad to see you involved in the update of Lucid. I think this all means nothing. This is from 005--has anything about this been changed?
In the case of Firefox only, the pet writes the following to defaultbrowser select default browser writes the following But /usr/bin firefox is It seems to work OK. I guess run-mozilla.sh handles it all. I regret that I did not test more before I mentioned it I remember it now, around v12 of Firefox it became necessary to start FF this way and I see that I implemented that inconsistently. I would change the pet, but it seems to me there is no real problem so better left alone--please let me know if you think otherwise. The choice to make any change in fbpanel would be yours and rerwins.

radky wrote:However, if the browser-default script is inconsistent in some scenarios, a possible replacement would be the well-tested 'defaults-chooser' utility (below) which correctly appends the "$@" argument to the new browser selection. Plus, it has the advantage of an intuitive interface for quickly changing many additional default applications in usr/local/bin/.

Thanks for that recommendation. Does any one object to my adding 'defaults-chooser' to lupu and removing 'browser-default' altogether? Is there any reason 'defaults-chooser' (from Precise Pup) would not work in lupu? That is my intent if there is no problem with it.

BTW, I plan omit it from the launch bar because it does not seem like something that would be used much, after the initial settings. I assume the launch bar is for applications one uses every day (or so).
Richard

Adding 'defaults-chooser' would be a very useful addition.

The latest version is here:
Defaults Chooser 0.8.8
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 078#735078

I am testing now.

Edit:
So far seems to be working for me. V 0.8.8

What is this program suppose to do

Menu->Graphic->Pictureviewer drag and drop images

I can run it, but nothing seems to happen.
It opens, you drag an image to it, and nothing happens.

Sure does not work as a default image viewer.

Edit:
For .png image files only.
Still do not know what it really is used for.

For me, it is nothing I need.

I am uploading the 20131120 version of the lupu 5.2.8.6 ISO files. They contain all of the fixes discussed since the 20131114 versions.

This time, I have also updated the update history for both 20131114 and 20131120.

The history and link to the download site are here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 108#726108

The direct link to the downloads is:
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/dc28t2r ... es-5.2.8.6

I hope this wraps it up, but am open to further essential fixes. Thank you to all who contributed, directing me to the updated packages.

UPDATE:
Oops! I missed the final pfbpanel update.

Re-uploads complete.
Richard

Here is Slimboat 1.1.43, prepared by OscarTalks with the addition of the file that sets it as defaultbrowser in Lucid. It starts up more quickly than Firefox and is the only alternative to FF/Seamonkey for those who want to use a latest version browser in Lucid (Opera 12.16 does run but has a serious problem in throwing beaucoup error messages) . Adblocker included. Nice package imho.

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/Slimb ... -Lucid.pet

There is one little glitch unfortunately, not serious, maybe they will fix it next version if it is not peculiar to Lucid. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 491#738176

OscarTalks also has two versions of Skype 4.2.0.11 for Lucid If a few could test I could put it in the repo.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 40&t=86808