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Posted: Thu 10 Oct 2013, 18:47
by Sylvander
"1. Validate the burn?"
No, but then I never do, and normally it is ALWAYS a good burn.
Never had a bad burn.

"2. At the prompt type in full "puppy pfix=ram" (without the quotes)?"
Yes.

sfs not found

Posted: Thu 10 Oct 2013, 20:01
by Volhout
I've seen this before when booting from USB stick. In that case it was a timing issue, where some USB sticks would show the problem, and others did not.

Not sure about CD's though. Haven't used these for years.

pnethood-0.7.1

Posted: Fri 11 Oct 2013, 06:36
by shinobar
With pnethood 0.6.8, when i copy a file to the remote folder, an error occurs:
I posted the issue at first on 03 Dec 2010.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 451#473451
Copying /mnt/sda3/tmp/some.txt as /mnt/network/SHINOBAR/video/public/tmp/some.txt
cp: failed to preserve ownership for `/mnt/network/SHINOBAR/video/public/tmp/some.txt': Permission denied
Failed to copy '/mnt/sda3/tmp/some.txt'
Actually, the file is copied successfully. The problem is only the error message.

Solution:
pnethood-0.7.1.pet
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/opt/
NOTE: i18n, does not contain nbtscan.

#12jan2011 shinobar: refresh button, scanspeed 2 seconds, check if the rcfile exists
#23mar2012 shinobar: use mount.cifs with 'nounix' option(func_mount), UTF-8 encording default
#17may2012 shinobar: extracting sharename
#17may2012 shinobar: i18n
#20jun2012 shinobar: export GTKDIALOG for other func
#5jul2012 shinobar: fix was failed on Dpup Exprimo
#3aug2013 shinobar: sec=ntlm mount option for recent kernel (gcmartin), fix logging

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87800

Posted: Fri 11 Oct 2013, 07:38
by ETP
Good morning Sylvander,

I am still of the opinion that your issue could be caused by a bad burn due to faulty optical media. This could give the symptoms you describe, which as Volhout has commented is akin to a timing problem. (Either the main sfs cannot be found or is reported as “not found

Posted: Fri 11 Oct 2013, 11:03
by Sylvander
ETP wrote:My inclination would be to try burning the ISO again (at the slowest possible speed) to a new CD-R or DVD-R/DVD-RW.
I normally always use CD-RW->4x or DVD+RW->4x.
They always work OK.
Made a 2nd CD-RW->4x copy of "lupu-5.2.8.6-20131004.iso" by 1st blanking, then reburning, the CD-RW of "luci-001.005.iso" made recently and booting OK.
This is a known functioning CD-RW.
I opted to test the burn.
It failed [as they have always failed, yet are always fully functioning CD's].

Posted: Fri 11 Oct 2013, 14:30
by ETP
HI Sylvander,

Try out each of these boot codes:

1. puppy acpi=on

2. puppy acpi=off

Posted: Fri 11 Oct 2013, 15:33
by Sylvander
ETP wrote:Try out each of these boot codes:

1. puppy acpi=on

2. puppy acpi=off
Tried each in turn.
Neither made any change/improvement. :(
SFS file still not found.

Posted: Fri 11 Oct 2013, 18:14
by bigpup
Sylvander,
I opted to test the burn.
It failed [as they have always failed, yet are always fully functioning CD's].
What program are you using to burn iso images?
The burn test should not be giving failed results, if the program is working properly.

A type disc CD/DVD R or RW (+ or - ) support issue with the burner device?

I find that sticking my tongue, slightly out the left side of my mouth, while burning iso files seems to help. Right side optional. :D

Posted: Fri 11 Oct 2013, 18:17
by ETP
Hi Sylvander,
I have burned the ISO to a DVD-R and booted successfully on a net-book using an external USB connected DVD writer. The implication is that this build may have a problem booting from anything that is RW.
May I suggest that you also burn a DVD-R or CD-R and try again? I do not suspect hardware as you have successfully booted other pups from RW media.

Posted: Fri 11 Oct 2013, 20:01
by James C
For what it's worth, I burned the latest 5.2.8.6 20131004 to a memorex cd-r and have successfully booted 5 different machines up to a hexacore w/ 16 gb of ram. No problems on any hardware so far.

Posted: Fri 11 Oct 2013, 20:06
by James C
Been doing a little testing but no problems so haven't been posting. But since I'm here.........

sh-4.1# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid , version 528

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

Actually using the old "nv" driver.


-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 2854MB (175MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.52
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 11 Oct 2013 03:16:49 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

Everything working correctly on initial boot.

Posted: Fri 11 Oct 2013, 20:30
by musher0
Hello, people.

Can somebody validate that, in lupu-5.2.8.6,
* du is not working correctly
* a lot of the pdf* utilities in /usr/bin are missing some libraries?

I've experienced those problems and solved them, but if I'm the only one
experiencing them, I'll go find a therapist :shock: instead of providing an upgrade
package. Sounds logical, eh? :)

Thanks in advance.

musher0

Posted: Fri 11 Oct 2013, 23:01
by Sylvander
1.
bigpup wrote:What program are you using to burn iso images?
Burniso2cd.

2.
ETP wrote:May I suggest that you also burn a DVD-R or CD-R and try again?
Burned a Panasonic CD-R.
It failed to boot just the same as the CD-RW's.
Unable to find the SFS file.
1 disk bites the dust [as I was sure it would]. :(
My guess is the kernel of this Puppy doesn't include drivers for my hardware, but I'm no Puppy expert.
I've seen this before; some Puppies work with my hardware, and others don't.
That's the problem I've had with Lupu->[which once was my number-1 Puppy] [and others] since I got this new hardware.

Posted: Sat 12 Oct 2013, 05:57
by bigpup
Sylvander wrote:Is Lupu 5.2.8.6 likely to work with my new [2012] desktop PC Hardware?
The previous version didn't.(
Could you give us the specs of this computer.

Burniso2cd failing burn tests is not normal operation for this program. What is causing this is something to try and figure out.

One thing to consider:
flash wrote:Testing has shown that burning too slow works as bad as burning too fast. For best results, go for the middle of the burning speed range of the burner or the disk, whichever is slowest. For instance, you'll probably get best results burning an 8x disk at 4x, not 1x.

Posted: Sat 12 Oct 2013, 08:05
by Sylvander
bigpup wrote:
Sylvander wrote:Could you give us the specs of this computer.
Mobo: ASRock H61M-S with 4GB RAM.
CPU: Dual core Pentium CPU G620T @2.20GHz 2200.00MHz
HDD: ATA ST250DM000-18D14
DVD-RW: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH222BB


2.
bigpup wrote:One thing to consider:
flash wrote:Testing has shown that burning too slow works as bad as burning too fast. For best results, go for the middle of the burning speed range of the burner or the disk, whichever is slowest. For instance, you'll probably get best results burning an 8x disk at 4x, not 1x.
Burniso2cd appears to automatically choose/set the burn speed.
CD-RW: It's shown auto-set to 10x, but then burns at 4x [disk speed=4x].
CD-R: It burned at around 16x [disk speed=1x-48x].

Posted: Sat 12 Oct 2013, 11:43
by rcrsn51
@Sylvander: Does your system have any old Lupu 528 components, like savefiles, hanging around? They could be confusing this new Lupu's search procedure.
Burniso2cd appears to automatically choose/set the burn speed.
That's one of the numerous problems with burniso2cd. It doesn't have an "auto" speed setting that lets the burner pick its own preferred speed.

Posted: Sat 12 Oct 2013, 14:47
by Sylvander
rcrsn51 wrote:@Sylvander: Does your system have any old Lupu 528 components, like savefiles, hanging around? They could be confusing this new Lupu's search procedure.
No.
I just now searched the only mounted partition for any files with "lupu" in their name.
The only item found is the empty 04-lupu folder I made in preparation for holding the "lupusave.?fs" file I intended to make, but didn't get that far.
Before making that folder I had checked that there were no existing "lupu" folders or files.
So I expect there should have been no problem of that kind.
Not unless "luci" files would cause a problem.

Posted: Sat 12 Oct 2013, 18:21
by bigpup
Sylvander,
I just now searched the only mounted partition for any files with "lupu" in their name.
I would search all partitions, mounted or not mounted.

Have you tried to boot using option puppy pfix=ram?

Driver support for your TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH222BB DVD drive could be the issue.
Did a Google search. Seems to be a really hard thing to find out any info about Linux drivers for it.

Have you tried to install to a USB flash drive and boot with it?

Posted: Sat 12 Oct 2013, 19:33
by Sylvander
1.
bigpup wrote:I would search all partitions, mounted or not mounted.
Done.
Mounted all partitions, and searched them.
Result was the same as before = only found the 1 empty folder.

2.
bigpup wrote:Have you tried to boot using option puppy pfix=ram?
I believe I did; will try again to make sure.
--
DONE, it made no difference. :(

3.
bigpup wrote:Driver support for your TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH222BB DVD drive could be the issue.
Seems likely to me.

4.
bigpup wrote:Have you tried to install to a USB flash drive and boot with it?
Not so far, but will try that [if possible] and report back.
SUCCESS!
a. Using ROX, I couldn't mount the ISO file [stored on an external HDD] whilst working within Precise-5.6.1, so copied the files from the CD-RW to the FAT32 partition [with boot flag set] on an 8GB Flash Drive, and installed grub4dos.
b. It booted just fine, and is looking good [I'm typing this from it], EXCEPT...
c. There are no icons on the desktop for the partition-file-systems on my SATA->[internal HDD, or optical drive].
The Flash Drive partition shows up [as sda1].
Plus...
The partitions [3] on my USB connected external HDD's [2] show up OK.

Posted: Sun 13 Oct 2013, 01:13
by rcrsn51
Sylvander wrote:EXCEPT...c. There are no icons on the desktop for the partition-file-systems on my SATA->[internal HDD, or optical drive]..
That probably explains why you can't boot off the CD. This Lupu is missing the drivers needed to see these devices.

[Edit] However, this Lupu can find my SATA hard drive OK.