Introducing Just-Lighthouse64

[Dry Falls]

I am trying to get x11vnc to work but it says ip is 0! Any ideas?

I've never played with this, but

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x11vnc --help

in the terminal brings up an encyclopedia of information. I don't see an upgrade available in Slackware 14.1, so I would presume there is not a version conflict between the stock x11vnc in lighthouse and any upgraded processes I've included. I know lighthouse itself is persnickety about giving out ip info. Try it with kde loaded and unloaded to see if there is a difference.

...later... I ran x11vnc.desktop (exec x11vnc-gui) from the menu and it does identify the ip after supplying a password (woofwoof). I've only got the browser and Kpython7.5-qt4.8.5-x86_64.sfs loaded.

@edoc, If your machine can boot usb-uefi, go that route. I limit the iso to <700M for those of us who can only boot from a cd/dvd and only have a cd available. Despite the language in the scripts, there is no save session to cd (It's dvd) but you can run a live cd just the same. USB_live works very well, as does usb_session-save. I've included that option in the grub menu.

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[gcmartin]

@Edoc, I sure you and others know this, but, I have ONLY used DVDs for system boots and savesessions for all the years of LightHouse64/Just-LightHouse64 use on either BIOS/UEFI PCs. Never have filled nor never had integrity problems in use. DVD performance beats CD performance...hands down, for these use.

Hope this is useful info.

[gcmartin]

Problem encountered
The ISO downloaded and md5 checksum verified. DVD burned via PBurn and checksum of DVD verified, too. The DVD boots on Intel UEFI without issues.

BUT, when DVD booted on my AMD BIOS X2 PC, I am getting halts in booting with "red" JL-602.sfs not found. The boot process stops at this message.

Anyone else having a boot time halt on a BIOS based PC with the latest test JLH?

[Dry Falls]

I
am getting halts in booting with "red" JL-602.sfs not
found.

Isolinux.cfg menu, first run/dvd should be menu #3 or #3b,
which specify pmedia=cd. USB is #4 or 4b. Otherwise, the hard drive
will be searched for a base file and zwine. If this doesn't work, enter
the menu (I think you press "b") and change 'pmenu=cd' to 'pmenu=dvd',
although I don't think that is necessary.

[gcmartin]

First, on DVD boot issues.
I grabbed a DVD+R (vs RW) to burned & verified ISO to it. Then, on my 1GB Intel PC, I booted to observe behavior. Booted fine.

Have not had time to check the X2. Understandably, the media is locked currently, but as soon as I can, after some testing, I will shutdown and attempt boot media in the X2.

Trying to sort whether I am experiencing) media problems (erasing and re-recording a DVD+RW) or if this is ISO's problem on BIOS AMDs. (I do not have a UEFI AMD at this time to test).

Testing on 1GB PC
Booted fine


Usage

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bash-4.2# uname -a
Linux JLHonDELL-1GB 4.0.1-JL-64 #1 SMP Sat May 2 11:23:52 PDT 2015 x86_64 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
<root> ~
bash-4.2# free    
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1005340       924732        80608       419896        86340
-/+ buffers:             838392       166948
Swap:      4290556       159144      4131412
<root> ~
bash-4.2# samba -V
Version 4.0.5
<root> ~

Desktop

Tried a Seamonkey from Menu>Internet>SeaMonkey Browser

But, I created a Hardinfo Report (see below) and when given the option to open in a browser, it successfully opened Seamonkey ???
BUT, SeaMonkey STILL does not works from Menu.

This concludes current testing on this PC.

[gcmartin]

On Desktop's AMD BIOS X2
Same boot problem as shown before.

Any other AMD Desktop users out there?

[Dry Falls]

Remember? It's the same as before. Browsers run from the menu run as spot. From the wbar, they run as root. Mozilla browsers need a save-session and frugal symlink or move the /spot/.mozilla directory so that a profile can be created. See the readme in the opening post or link from the 3.18.8 iso. The change is not in lighthouse, but in mozilla itself. Dillo and konqueror will work as spot first-run. It's just the mozilla browsers. It's a matter of the sfs (including the base file) being interpreted as read-only. When you move the mozilla directory (save and restarat x) it moves to pup_rw and the build system is satisfied.

readme is updated for this release here:

Read Me file

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[Dry Falls]

Ok, I've completely removed Spot's .mozilla directory in a test JL64-602.sfs and now all the browsers will load (from the menu, as spot) first-run. The downside is none of Tazoc's customizations are available. Mozilla builds it's own .mozilla directory first-run. Still don't understand why it works under root except that spot doesn't have permission to make system changes. Give it permission and it defeats the whole purpose. Frankly, I never run as spot.

I'll bring back the profile.sfs with the original spot mozilla directory (configs for firefox, icecat & seamonkey) just to keep the option open and preserve a bit of lighthouse history in the next build.

df

[edoc]

I forget ... how do I tell Just-LH64 to always run as root by default?

Thanks.

[Dry Falls]

I forget ... how do I tell Just-LH64 to always run as root by default?

Thanks.

You don't need to. All the window managers but kde, which is truly multiuser (and not just a little schizoid) run as root. As I understand, spot was originally designed just to run internet applications, and not much more. Au contraire. You have to tell it NOT to run as root, if that is your desire.

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[edoc]

So that's a change from the original Lighthouse-64 which runs as Spot by default?

I'm forever having to stop and change permissions on a folder so that I can save a download on this old install.

[edoc]

Just loaded the latest Just-LH64 (MARINER 602B2) on a laptop (I'll call it #1) and still cannot see the Brother HL-2275DW printer that this one can.

I have observed that the laptop (#2 running Carolina) that was on that desk, and is now elsewhere, "controls" that printer.

What I mean is that if laptop #2 isn't powered on and connected (wired or wirelessly) to the network then no computer can see the printer.

NOTE: The printer is connected to the ASUS router's printer port and not to the laptop.

Laptop #3 (this one, running the old LH64-602b) can see the printer fine.

I don't get what's happening here at all.

[Dry Falls]

@edoc, this is a problem. Had you installed any printer drivers in your L64-602 (original)? Does it identify the printer on first run? The only thing I've changed in that department is upgrading cups to 1.5.4. I've installed the correct drivers for my canon mx420 plugged directly into the computer or router to no avail either. Pupscan Hardware Interface identifies it but that's as far as I get. NSF and gparted will find the usb stick plugged into the printer, but nothing will let you see the contents.

It could be that I've removed systemd which Samba requires. Eudev does a good work-around for everything else, right down to kde and xfce apps which normally require avahi/systemd to recognize and mount drives, if not initiate the desktop (I've rebuilt kde/xfce without sysd etc altogether). It could also be a bum kernel configuration (one little parameter amidst 6,000+ lines of configuration choices).

But the printer? I'd really like some help here as well. I just don't know or understand enough in the area of hardware and networking. Ie., I'm really stumped on this one. It's probably something simple, and I'll look even dumber than I feel. But maybe something is really broken.

df

[James C]

On Desktop's AMD BIOS X2
Same boot problem as shown before.

Any other AMD Desktop users out there?

I finally found a little free time to try this.

Before I did the manual frugal install I'm running now I booted a cd in 2 older AMD boxes with traditional bios.Zero problems booting from the cd .... a couple of boots on each box.

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-Computer-
Processor		: 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory		: 4041MB (727MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: Lighthouse 64 6.02 B2
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Wed May 27 00:30:12 2015
-Display-
Resolution		: 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Gallium 0.4 on NVA8
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter		: PC-Speaker - pcsp

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<root> ~
bash-4.2# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Just-Lighthouse64, version 602

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 evdev exa extmod fb fbdevhw glx record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1440x900 pixels (381x238 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
<root> ~

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bash-4.2# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       4041884      2828080      1213804       699664       222112
-/+ buffers:            2605968      1435916
Swap:     14540792            0     14540792
<root> ~

The first thing I did was make SeaMonkey run as root from the menu.Other than my drive icons stacking up one atop the other( 2 drives and about 25 partitions) things are looking pretty solid.

Time to explore a bit more.

Good job.

[James C]

Nice to see inxi installed.

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System:    Host: Just-Lighthouse64 Kernel: 4.0.1-JL-64 x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.8.2) Desktop: JWM git-724 Distro: unknown
Machine:   Mobo: ASRock model: N68-S UCC Bios: American Megatrends version: P1.70 date: 03/03/2011
CPU:       Dual core AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 svm) bmips: 10849.2 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 2712.296 MHz 2: 2712.296 MHz
Graphics:  Card: nVidia GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 02:00.0 
           X.org: 1.12.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: vesa,fbdev,nv) tty size: 124x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root 
Audio:     Card-1: nVidia MCP61 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:05.0 Sound: ALSA ver: k4.0.1-JL-64
           Card-2: nVidia High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 02:00.1 
Network:   Card: nVidia MCP61 Ethernet driver: forcedeth port: d480 bus-ID: 00:07.0
           IF: enp0s7 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1250.3GB (0.9% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB 
           2: id: /dev/sdb model: ST3250318AS size: 250.1GB 
Partition: ID: swap-1 size: 8.49GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap ID: swap-2 size: 6.40GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 33.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 47.0 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 157 Uptime: 26 min Memory: 376.5/3947.2MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.8.2 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.2.53) inxi: 1.9.7 

[gcmartin]

Thanks @James C.

Really appreciate that. Seem, then, my issues are with my local AMD Desktop PCs. Hummm???

Question @James C

• Is that PC you show a UEFI PC or a BIOS based one?

Thanks in advance

[James C]

Thanks @James C.

Really appreciate that. Seem, then, my issues are with my local AMD Desktop PCs. Hummm???

Question @James C

• Is that PC you show a UEFI PC or a BIOS based one?

Thanks in advance

Regular bios.....

[James C]

Thought I'd do a quick live test run on a UEFI box. i build my own so it's UEFI but no "secure boot".

No real problems in this quick test.

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System:    Host: Just-Lighthouse64 Kernel: 4.0.1-JL-64 x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.8.2) Desktop: Openbox 3.5.0 Distro: unknown
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 version: Rev 1.xx Bios: American Megatrends version: 2202 date: 12/12/2013
CPU:       Octa core AMD FX-8320 Eight-Core (-MCP-) cache: 16384 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 56186.7 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 3500.00 MHz 2: 3500.00 MHz 3: 3500.00 MHz 4: 3500.00 MHz 5: 3500.00 MHz 6: 3500.00 MHz 7: 3500.00 MHz 8: 3500.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: nVidia Device 1381 bus-ID: 01:00.0 
           X.org: 1.12.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: vesa,fbdev,nv) tty size: 124x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root 
Audio:     Card-1: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 Sound: ALSA ver: k4.0.1-JL-64
           Card-2: nVidia Device 0fbc driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller 
           driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1120.2GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB 
           2: id: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB 
Partition: 
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 23.5C mobo: N/A gpu: 31.0 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 177 Uptime: 11 min Memory: 535.3/7874.2MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.8.2 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.2.53) inxi: 1.9.7 

[Dry Falls]

Just loaded the latest Just-LH64 (MARINER 602B2) on a laptop (I'll call it #1) and still cannot see the Brother HL-2275DW printer that this one can...
NOTE: The printer is connected to the ASUS router's printer port and not to the laptop.

Laptop #3 (this one, running the old LH64-602b) can see the printer fine.

I've found some missing dependencies for the cups/samba upgades (gnutls), and some static libraries. In the process of configuring the canon with cups (finally, I can 'add printer!). The cannon is now registered (I'd already installed the drivers, but it looks like I didn't need to with the firmware in the new kernel modules). Doesn't hurt, though. Anyway, everything's a go except that it won't print a test page.

I've got the printer attached by both usb port and ethernet cable to the router. First cups error message mentioned wrong permissions, access denied. It reports user=anonymous. Changed permissions: allow user anonymous, and now no error message, but still no print. The last step is to plow through the /var/log/cups and var/spool directories.

I'm hopeful for a resolution for this soon. When it does, I'll remaster. Unfortunately, all this adds about 10M to the base file, even with moving locale, info, doc & man to the documentation/nls files.

df

@James C: Thanks for testing this. I'm starting to feel better already!

error_log:

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W [28/May/2015:19:07:49 +2300] No limit for Validate-Job defined in policy default and no suitable template found.
W [28/May/2015:19:07:49 +2300] No limit for Cancel-Jobs defined in policy default and no suitable template found.
W [28/May/2015:19:07:49 +2300] No limit for Cancel-My-Jobs defined in policy default and no suitable template found.
W [28/May/2015:19:07:49 +2300] No limit for Close-Job defined in policy default and no suitable template found.
W [28/May/2015:19:07:49 +2300] No limit for CUPS-Get-Document defined in policy default and no suitable template found.
W [28/May/2015:19:07:49 +2300] No JobPrivateAccess defined in policy default - using defaults.
W [28/May/2015:19:07:49 +2300] No JobPrivateValues defined in policy default - using defaults.
W [28/May/2015:19:07:49 +2300] No SubscriptionPrivateAccess defined in policy default - using defaults.
W [28/May/2015:19:07:49 +2300] No SubscriptionPrivateValues defined in policy default - using defaults.
E [28/May/2015:19:07:50 +2300] Unable to open listen socket for address [v1.::1]:631 - Address family not supported by protocol.
E [28/May/2015:19:07:50 +2300] [Job 3] Unable to open print file: Permission denied
E [28/May/2015:19:07:52 +2300] [Job 3] Unable to open print file: Permission denied
E [28/May/2015:19:07:52 +2300] [Job 3] Unable to open print file: Permission denied
W [28/May/2015:19:08:40 +2300] No limit for Validate-Job defined in policy default and no suitable template found.
W [28/May/2015:19:08:40 +2300] No limit for Cancel-Jobs defined in policy default and no suitable template found.
W [28/May/2015:19:08:40 +2300] No limit for Cancel-My-Jobs defined in policy default and no suitable template found.
W [28/May/2015:19:08:40 +2300] No limit for Close-Job defined in policy default and no suitable template found.
W [28/May/2015:19:08:40 +2300] No limit for CUPS-Get-Document defined in policy default and no suitable template found.
W [28/May/2015:19:08:40 +2300] No JobPrivateAccess defined in policy default - using defaults.
W [28/May/2015:19:08:40 +2300] No JobPrivateValues defined in policy default - using defaults.
W [28/May/2015:19:08:40 +2300] No SubscriptionPrivateAccess defined in policy default - using defaults.
W [28/May/2015:19:08:40 +2300] No SubscriptionPrivateValues defined in policy default - using defaults.
E [28/May/2015:19:08:40 +2300] Unable to open listen socket for address [v1.::1]:631 - Address family not supported by protocol.
E [28/May/2015:19:08:52 +2300] [Job 3] Unable to open print file: Permission denied
E [28/May/2015:19:08:52 +2300] [Job 3] Unable to open print file: Permission denied
E [28/May/2015:19:08:52 +2300] [Job 3] Unable to open print file: Permission denied
E [28/May/2015:19:10:14 +2300] Returning IPP client-error-not-authorized for Create-Job (ipp://localhost:631/printers/Canon-MX420) from localhost

[edoc]

I've been occupied with work, garden & yard work, and HS graduation-related activities, and teen drama ...

This sure sounds like hopeful progress ...