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Re: Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

Posted: Tue 13 May 2014, 17:22
by neerajkolte
ETP wrote:Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014
Where to obtain the image: (blue_pup_v4.img.xz) - (424 MB)
The image plus win32diskimager-v0.7-binary together with their MD5s are to be found here:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing
Hi ETP, could you please if possible upload v4 to your old address http://www.puppylinuxstuff.meownplanet.net/ETP/.

My home network is not available and my work network surprisingly blocks google drive.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

Posted: Wed 14 May 2014, 06:50
by ETP
@ 8-bit,

I seem to recall that you had a sound issue back in March which you fixed by installing a dotpet. On this occasion you also have had a modem issue which you have already sorted. (Item 5 of the setup instructions deals with the internet connection issue.) You may wish to try the Alsa sound Wizard off the JWM setup menu or the Multiple sound card Wizard if you have a dedicated sound card in addition to the sound chip on the motherboard.

Given that you now have encountered two issues and nothing related has changed, I am wondering whether you had a good write of the image to the stick.
Did you confirm the checksum and what method of install did you use?
(i.e. Windows, Linux or your own script.)
In addition, was the stick returned to its virgin state before you wrote the image to it?
(see: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 671#768671 )


@ neerajkolte,

Version 4 is now available on meownplanet. :)

Posted: Wed 14 May 2014, 12:21
by neerajkolte
Thanks ETP.

Posted: Wed 14 May 2014, 18:47
by 8-bit
With the sound card on my PC, it IS RECOGNIZED.
I initially was not getting sound and I had no volume icon on the task bar.
The sound volume setting on other Puppy versions was set about half.
When I booted Blue version 4, evidently, my sound card had been set up.
But it was set up with the volume at zero and for some reason, with that setting, I had no task bar volume icon.
I opened the mixer settings and increased the main volume and vola, I then had a taskbar volume icon.
So getting a taskbar icon for volume control is solved.
And all I did to get on the internet was to use the internet connection wizard to click on the Auto DHCP button and that was it.

Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

Posted: Wed 14 May 2014, 20:06
by ETP
Hi 8-bit,
Thanks for providing details of your two solutions.

Posted: Thu 15 May 2014, 16:47
by 8-bit
I do not know if this issue has been addressed. But on the Blue tile screen there is an option to add tiles that would start applications or links to internet sites.
But with the addition of the switch between the tile screen and desktop when one moves the mouse to right or left edge of screen, what happens when one adds more tiles than will fit on one screen as being able to access them?

Also, one has the option to remove a tile. But the arrangement of the tiles does not change to compensate and one is left with a blank area where the removed tile was. Is there a template file one needs to edit to get an added tile to use that blank space rather than being tacked onto the end?

Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

Posted: Thu 15 May 2014, 18:58
by ETP
Hi 8-bit,
I do not know if this issue has been addressed. But on the Blue tile screen there is an option to add tiles that would start applications or links to internet sites.
But with the addition of the switch between the tile screen and desktop when one moves the mouse to right or left edge of screen, what happens when one adds more tiles than will fit on one screen as being able to access them?
Use your scroll wheel to pan left and right. See images 3 & 4 in this post:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 653#764653
So, zoom in to something daft like 175% to get the feel of panning left and right.
Settle for a final zoom level in the region of 100% to 150% depending on what suits your monitor.
Also, one has the option to remove a tile. But the arrangement of the tiles does not change to compensate and one is left with a blank area where the removed tile was. Is there a template file one needs to edit to get an added tile to use that blank space rather than being tacked onto the end?
Entering edit mode by right clicking any tile not only gives you all the options across the bottom of the screen but the ability to move tiles around within columns and between different columns. Hold the left mouse button down then start moving a tile.
Gaps can be filled by:
a) Moving tiles.
b) Creating new tiles.
c) Resizing existing tiles.
In short it is one of the best Chrome extensions that I have ever encountered.
Have fun. :)

Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

Posted: Fri 16 May 2014, 16:42
by ETP
Optional JWM theme dotpet.
A custom matching JWM theme for the alternate wallpaper (orbital_station-1920x1080.jpg) is now available as a dotpet. (Blue-Pup.pet)
If you opt to use it, once JWM has restarted visit Desktop/PupClockset manager/Options and change the “Color

Posted: Sat 17 May 2014, 09:18
by neerajkolte
Hi ETP,
I want to first test your your blupup in Qemu in fatdog (I don't have a usb stick or blank cd/dvd at hand).
The qemu should handle the .img file as a drive.
But how can I decompress it in a directory in my hard drive say at /mnt/sda3/bluepup/. I have 40gb space free on that drive
What command I should I use.
I am tempted to use

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# xz --decompress --stdout blue_pup_v4.img.xz > /mnt/sda3/bluepup
# sync
But I am not sure.
Will it mess up my other data on drive.
why "#sync" is needed.
Thanks in advance.

-Neeraj.

Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

Posted: Sat 17 May 2014, 10:03
by ETP
Hi neerajkolte,

Wait until you do have a USB stick to hand as you could well trash your Pc. :shock: :shock: :shock:

The image is not standard as it consists of two partitions the first of which is flagged as bootable and contains the bootloader & kernel.

The sync command (issued only after the first command has finished) flushes the buffers to ensure that the whole of the image has been written to the stick.

Posted: Sat 17 May 2014, 10:25
by neerajkolte
thanks for reply ETP.
I had thought so after reading through the thread.
Just thought maybe there might be some way to do it.

Thanks.
-Neeraj.

Re: Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

Posted: Sat 17 May 2014, 10:50
by step
ETP wrote:Optional JWM theme dotpet....
Hi ETP, I just want to confirm that at boot-up petalert did announce the availability of a new service and directed me to the forum where I found your theme dotpet.

Posted: Sat 17 May 2014, 15:04
by gcmartin
Hello @Neerajkolte
neerajkolte wrote:Hi ETP,
I want to first test your your blupup in Qemu in fatdog (I don't have a usb stick or blank cd/dvd at hand). ...
This is very easy using the Guide.

If using Approach #2, create a 8GB disk for the virtual PC (guest), then boot FATDOG ISO in the Guest. Install Blue to that disk. Then shutdown the Guest (FATDOG) and rerun by booting without the ISO.The vPC will boot Blue.

Easy for any user.

Running blue pup in Qemu

Posted: Sat 17 May 2014, 17:13
by neerajkolte
Thanks for suggestion gcmartin.
Why didn't I think of that. :)
Will try out and report back.
Thanks

Re: Running blue pup in Qemu

Posted: Sat 17 May 2014, 17:33
by gcmartin
neerajkolte wrote:... Will try out ...
Actually runs faster than real PC. See for yourself. Be careful; its not just faster, its sensitive in responsivenesss. (There is good reason for this faster operation which should be obvious.)

Using Bluepup v4 in qemu

Posted: Sun 18 May 2014, 04:00
by neerajkolte
Hello @gcmartin,
This works out perfectly.
Thanks.

Bluepup looks great. Nice work ETP.

Anyone who wants to try out Bluepup. But doesn't have usb stick, or don't want to wipe existing usb puppy installation, this is a great way to test Bluepup.

I am sure after testing you will install it to usb, and suggest your friends to tryout.

Thanks.

-Neeraj.

Posted: Wed 21 May 2014, 15:50
by step
@ETP, the download link in the first post is dead
This domain name expired on May 18 2014 01:44:52:000PM
Click here to renew it.

Posted: Wed 21 May 2014, 16:04
by neerajkolte
step wrote:@ETP, the download link in the first post is dead
Hi Step,
see http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 705#778705
Looks like this may be temporary problem. :D

Blue Pup V4 (Final)-Released 9th May 2014

Posted: Thu 22 May 2014, 08:46
by ETP
The previous version of Blue (V3) has received the following review in “LinuxInsider

Posted: Thu 22 May 2014, 09:19
by greengeek
Wow, congratulations. That seems like a pretty good review!
Blue Pup is a very unique combination of user experiences. The interplay between the standard Linux desktop and the Metro mode is much more seamless than the Windows 8 experience.
How did you feel about his comment about portability? It seemed somewhat at odds with the experience reported throughout this thread.
That means you can not use the same USB disk to run Blue Pup in any other computer.