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Precise Puppy beta2, June 6, 2012

Posted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 18:16
by Billtoo
Manual frugal install to a 4gb flash drive.
Acer Aspire One 721-3801 netbook
Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)

Precise Puppy, version 5.2.60 on Thu 7 Jun 2012

Chip description:
5.0 VGA compatible controller
Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS880M 01.00

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: radeon

X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1024x600 pixels (270x158 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

# glxgears
1380 frames in 5.1 seconds = 272.696 FPS
1360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 271.065 FPS
1360 frames in 5.1 seconds = 268.446 FPS

On first boot it was running the vesa driver so I exited to the prompt
and ran xorgwizard, chose probe, and ended up with the radeon driver.
In glxgears fps was less than 60.
I opened ppm and updated it adding the 3 precise repos, then exited
and restarted ppm.
I did a search for mesa and installed everything that came up that had
anything to do with mesa, rebooted along the way a few times and ended up with
better fps, good enough to run a Google Earth sfs that I installed.

On an earlier save file I had tried to install the ati proprietary
driver and that failed, miserably.

I'm getting much better results on my computers with Nvidia cards but
this is useable.

Posted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 18:42
by OscarTalks
Precise Puppy

# gtkhash
gtkhash; error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-3.so.0:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Apologies if this is a known issue or something.

Posted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 20:47
by peebee
Jim1911 wrote:
pemasu wrote:Jim1911. There isnt iwlagn anymore in 3.2.X kernels. It is iwlwifi driver nowadays.
Hi pemasu,

It's good to see you on the forum again. Hope all is well for you and yours.
dmesg output for laptop which does not connect is attached.
Yes indeed - good to hear from pemasu :-)

dmesg seems to indicate that the iwlwifi driver is being used and the firmware is successfully being loaded.

I notice that there are reports of eth0 going down in amongst the iwlwifi messages.

What device is iwlwifi creating? netwiz will tell you.

You could try frisbee - it seems better than sns at handling some of these quirks - the 2 pets in this post work on Precise for me:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 2&start=80
Cheers
peebee

Posted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 22:00
by Jim1911
peebee wrote:
Jim1911 wrote:
pemasu wrote:Jim1911. There isnt iwlagn anymore in 3.2.X kernels. It is iwlwifi driver nowadays.
Hi pemasu,

It's good to see you on the forum again. Hope all is well for you and yours.
dmesg output for laptop which does not connect is attached.
Yes indeed - good to hear from pemasu :-)

dmesg seems to indicate that the iwlwifi driver is being used and the firmware is successfully being loaded.

I notice that there are reports of eth0 going down in amongst the iwlwifi messages.

What device is iwlwifi creating? netwiz will tell you.

You could try frisbee - it seems better than sns at handling some of these quirks - the 2 pets in this post work on Precise for me:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 2&start=80
Cheers
peebee
Thanks, Frisbee works for this installation.

Posted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 22:13
by peebee
Jim1911 wrote:Thanks, Frisbee works for this installation.
That's good news....

Jemimah, Playdayz, 01micko and pemasu have all successfully included Frisbee with their puppies - perhaps we could ask Barry to consider adding it to Wary, Racy and Precise?

The approach of having it in the iso as a pet that is installed on request seems to work pretty well in my experience.

Cheers
peebee

PPB2 UDF boot still broken

Posted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 23:17
by Ted Dog
Worked the last Wary version but not in this series of betas. :(

Re: input method (cont.)

Posted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 23:18
by shinobar
shinobar wrote:The problem is the file /usr/lib/gconv/gconv-modules is also cut down. We reverted the file with the one of the alpha3 and re-run 'iconvconfig'. Now the SCIM works OK,
Got a side-effect with abiword, it got unstable. I suspect the gconv-modules does not match with the modules contained, because we did not add fullset, so the iconvconfig makes imcompleted cache.

Maybe solved if we rebuild the gconv-modules with the modules currently containd (maybe we can find the code in woof, right?), but we take a tentative solution for the japanese:
  1. Add gconv modules for Japanese.
  2. Replace the /usr/lib/gconv/gconv-modules with the one of Ubuntu fullset.
  3. Remove /usr/lib/gconv/gconv-modules.cache.

Re: PPB2 UDF boot still broken

Posted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 23:28
by Karl Godt
Ted Dog wrote:Worked the last Wary version but not in this series of betas. :(
Are you sure udf.ko is in the initrd.gz or compiled into the kernel ?

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grep UDF /etc/modules/*
/etc/modules/DOTconfig-3.0.25:CONFIG_UDF_FS=y
/etc/modules/DOTconfig-3.0.25:CONFIG_UDF_NLS=y

Re: PPB2 UDF boot still broken

Posted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 23:43
by Ted Dog
Karl Godt wrote:
Ted Dog wrote:Worked the last Wary version but not in this series of betas. :(
Are you sure udf.ko is in the initrd.gz or compiled into the kernel ?

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grep UDF /etc/modules/*
/etc/modules/DOTconfig-3.0.25:CONFIG_UDF_FS=y
/etc/modules/DOTconfig-3.0.25:CONFIG_UDF_NLS=y
Yes, can mount from the command line in the initial ramdisk when puppy gives up trying to find the sfs file, udf modules are already loaded.

sylpheed compile fails

Posted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 04:01
by broomdodger
Precise Puppy 5.2.60 (beta2) frugal
Racy530 frugal

sylpheed-3.1.4
sylpheed-3.2.0beta7
sylpheed-3.2.0beta8

All FAIL to compile on precise5260
All compile OK on racy530

When compiled on racy530, all will run on precise5260!

vim 7.3.548 compiles and runs great on both.

I can send the make log if you need it.

Bill

Posted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 06:12
by James C
Precise 5.2.60.....

Posted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 06:17
by James C
Fresh manual frugal install on the trusty Athlon XP box.Sound,internet and display all working and correct on initial boot.

# report-video
Precise Puppy, version 5.2.60 on Fri 8 Jun 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: # vesa

X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#
Actually using the "nouveau" driver.

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (180MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 08 Jun 2012 01:17:21 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

All basics looking good.

Precise Puppy beta2, June 6, 2012

Posted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 15:06
by Billtoo
I been trying out the Puppy Package Manager in beta 2 and it's working
very well.
I've installed quite a few things including xfce, it's pretty amazing
how well this is working.

EDIT: I added cairo-dock to xfce4

QuickSET in Precise 5.2.60 beta2

Posted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 18:23
by gcmartin
@Barry, I sent a PM on a different aspect of QuickSET.

But, here's an observation that I'm not sure if its a bug, so I'm asking for a clarification.
  1. I had serveral persons test Precise using desktop PCs on the LAN. (see below for the QuickSET example.)
  2. I tested Precise using my Laptop and got an unexpected result. (see below for the QuickSET example.)
As you can see, the Hostname field is missing in QuickSET for the laptop. For consistency, I had expected the laptop to look like what I get on a desktop. Are there 2 different QuckSETs for some reason???

On a different issue, iwth SeaMonkey
I am using SeaMonkey as shipped. When I'm on the forum, it is not showing mispellings when adding a post to a thread. Probably something minor.

PPM clarificatoin
I noticed that the OOTB PPM screeen shows a Puppy-Precise for which there is NO PETs showing, at all when selected. Further, when I acvance to the configruaton PPM screen, there is no PuppyPrecise on the right side of the screen.

Is there something of a preliminary nature that should be done when PPM is first used in Precise that would correct what we see?

Hope this helps

Cannot Add Printer using CUPS 1.3.11

Posted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 19:48
by Jim1911
I have been unsuccessful trying to add my wifi printer, Officejet 6500 to my laptop installation of beta 2. The printer installs fine with pemasu's Exprimo, using CUPS 1.4.4 as shown on the attached image. Also it works fine with 01micko's Slacko using version 1.4.6. Please consider upgrading to a later CUPS version.

getflash-1.1

Posted: Sat 09 Jun 2012, 07:41
by shinobar
GetFlash-1.0 on precise beta2 does not work because the Adobe URL has been changed.

GetFlash install Flashplayer UPDATE: v1.1
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=74491

Gimp-2.8

Posted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 04:43
by shinobar
I have compiled the gimp-2.8 against the precise puppy beta2.
Try gimp-2.8-precise.sfs, contains all NLS and DEV.
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/precise/

Posted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 14:24
by linuxcbon
One question, why is there still /dev/hda* /dev/hdb* etc. in puppy ? Is it still in use somewhere by the kernel or something ?

Precise Puppy beta2, June 6, 2012

Posted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 16:57
by Billtoo
After using beta 2 for a couple of days and discovering how well the
puppy package manager works once the precise repos are added and
updated (configure button in ppm) I think it is my new favorite puppy
:)

Thanks Barry!

Boot from multisession CD produces repeating AUFS messages

Posted: Sun 10 Jun 2012, 18:09
by rerwin
Barry,
While developing some fixes in a precise-5.2.58/60 multisession environment, I discovered that in a certain case the multisession pup_ro1 layer gets created incorrectly. My case is triggered by insertion and removal of a data-only flash drive with saves of each state. But the problem appears to be more general, in that although the saved session directories contain either the files (which are links, BTW) OR their whiteout files, the pup_ro1 layer in subsequent boots contains both! AUFS issues multiple "user.err kernel" messages for each instance of this conflict.

Here is the evidence:
  • ls -a /mnt/sr0/2012-06-10-12-05/dev/block/ (flash drive inserted):
    • 11:1
      7:10
      7:8
      7:9
      8:16
      8:17
    ls -A /mnt/sr0/2012-06-10-12-10/dev/block/ (flash drive removed):
    • 7:10
      7:8
      7:9
      .wh.11:1
      .wh.8:16
      .wh.8:17
    ls -A /initrd/pup_ro1/dev/block/ (after reboot with the drive still removed):
    • 11:1
      7:10
      7:8
      7:9
      8:16
      8:17
      .wh.11:1
      .wh.8:16
      .wh.8:17
Similar results appear for the /initrd/pup_ro1/dev/.udev/watch/ directory:
  • 4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    .wh.7
    .wh.8
The corresponding messages log messages are:
  • Jun 11 15:32:31 puppypc20742 user.err kernel: [ 1258.146868] aufs au_lkup_dentry:273:rdev[19257]: I/O Error, both of real entry and whiteout found, 8:17, err -5
    Jun 11 15:32:31 puppypc20742 user.err kernel: [ 1258.146875] aufs au_lkup_dentry:273:rdev[19257]: I/O Error, both of real entry and whiteout found, 8:16, err -5
    Jun 11 15:32:31 puppypc20742 user.err kernel: [ 1258.146890] aufs au_lkup_dentry:273:rdev[19257]: I/O Error, both of real entry and whiteout found, 11:1, err -5
    Jun 11 15:32:32 puppypc20742 user.err kernel: [ 1258.843502] aufs au_lkup_dentry:273:rdev[19286]: I/O Error, both of real entry and whiteout found, 8, err -5
    Jun 11 15:32:32 puppypc20742 user.err kernel: [ 1258.843510] aufs au_lkup_dentry:273:rdev[19286]: I/O Error, both of real entry and whiteout found, 7, err -5
These messages seem to appear every time aufs re-evaluates the layering, so flood the log file. This is easily re-creatable by inserting a USB flash drive, saving, removing the flash drive, saving again, and rebooting (with or without saving).
Richard