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@Billtoo

Thanks for the update.
Two questions if I may,

1) Can one switch the updates off as they have a habit of breaking things

2) Does Mint 18 support multiple monitors, as in two distinct displays versus "cloning" where the same thing is shown on both?

Pete wrote:@Billtoo

Thanks for the update.
Two questions if I may,

1) Can one switch the updates off as they have a habit of breaking things

2) Does Mint 18 support multiple monitors, as in two distinct displays versus "cloning" where the same thing is shown on both?

There are three settings for updates, the first 2 won't break your system, the third updates everything so it may break the system.
I went the the default setting (2).

Xfce4 supports multiple monitors, I don't have this on a pc with multiple monitors yet but I'd be surprised if Mint Xfce4 didn't.

Thank you Billtoo, gonna give Xfce4 a try.

Pete wrote:Thank you Billtoo, gonna give Xfce4 a try.

Hi Pete,
I connected a second monitor to my COMPAC Presario which is running Xslacko-4.2 and set it up to use both monitors.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sun 14 Aug 2016 on X-Slacko 4.2 Linux 3.14.56 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: AMD/ATI [Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.] RV530 [Radeon X1600 PRO]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV530 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.14.3
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1016x286 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.1.7

Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Core 0: @2800 1: @2800 MHz

Hey Billtoo, that is impressive.
Perhaps I should give Xslacko a whirl too and I see it's based on Slacko 6.3.2 32 bit so most/all of my programs should be compatible although I'm a bit concerned about the devx.sfs.

Pete wrote:Hey Billtoo, that is impressive.
Perhaps I should give Xslacko a whirl too and I see it's based on Slacko 6.3.2 32 bit so most/all of my programs should be compatible although I'm a bit concerned about the devx.sfs.

I used the Display section of the xfce4 control panel to setup
for 2 monitors and it was working but as soon as I shut down and
rebooted later I found that the settings weren't saved and I had to do
it again, even restarting x loses the setting.

I tried the xrandr command in the terminal and found out what works for my
system,copied the command to geany and saved it as 2monitors.sh, then
made the file executable and put it in /root/startup.
This is working on my system.

Thank you Billtoo, much appreciated.

I installed Slackware-14.2 to my COMPAQ Presario desktop pc.

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory 1537MB (335MB used)
Operating System Slackware 14.2
Date/Time Tue 16 Aug 2016 12:40:03 PM EDT
Display
Resolution 3840x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter CA0106 - CA0106
Kernel Linux 4.4.14-smp (i686)
Desktop Environment XFCE 4
OpenGL
Vendor X.Org R300 Project
Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
Version 2.1 Mesa 11.2.2
Direct Rendering Yes

I compiled Mplayer-1.3.0,Smplayer-16.8.0,Smtube-16.7.2 and did
slackbuilds of Geany-1.28,Geany-plugins-1.28,Hardinfo-0.5.1,and
Mtpaint-3.40

It's working well on this 12 year old computer.

It';s good that it's working for you Bill, but for some strange reason I can't get networking to work on Slackware 14.2 although it worked just fine on all earlier versions including 14.1.

Was there anything different you had to do to get it to work this time?

Colonel Panic wrote:It';s good that it's working for you Bill, but for some strange reason I can't get networking to work on Slackware 14.2 although it worked just fine on all earlier versions including 14.1.

Was there anything different you had to do to get it to work this time?

I just chose automatic network setup during the installation, it found eth0 on first boot.
There is a use DCHP or something like that but I went with the other option.

I compiled wine-1.9.16, that took quite a while but it's working well, running XBMC Gotham-13.2.

@Billtoo

Interesting screenshot.
Did you "merge" them together or does the software automatically grab both screens and includes them into a single picture?

Billtoo wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:It';s good that it's working for you Bill, but for some strange reason I can't get networking to work on Slackware 14.2 although it worked just fine on all earlier versions including 14.1.

Was there anything different you had to do to get it to work this time?

I just chose automatic network setup during the installation, it found eth0 on first boot.
There is a use DCHP or something like that but I went with the other option.

I compiled wine-1.9.16, that took quite a while but it's working well, running XBMC Gotham-13.2.

Thanks, I'll give it another try soon.

Pete wrote:@Billtoo

Interesting screenshot.
Did you "merge" them together or does the software automatically grab both screens and includes them into a single picture?

It takes both screens into a single picture, can also select a region or active window.

Thank you Billtoo.

i'm posting from the live disk of Crunchbang Monara, which is based on crunchbang but using openbox and tint2 with a sans serif font similar to comic sans and using a number of pastel blue-grey shades. It was developed by a guy called Tim Fatt.

It's got quite a nice aesthetic, and it's an interesting choice for those who like Crunchbang but found the original distro a bit too sombre. One problem though is that the caps lock key doesn't work; you have to press the shift key to get capitals.

Colonel Panic wrote:.... One problem though is that as standard in the live version, the caps lock key doesn't work; you have to press the shift key to get capitals.

Who in their right mind releases something like that?
Heck why did they even bother with a keyboard driver then when users could rather click their mouse buttons to create morse code.

That is one distro I will definitely not be trying.

Pete wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:.... One problem though is that as standard in the live version, the caps lock key doesn't work; you have to press the shift key to get capitals.

Who in their right mind releases something like that?
Heck why did they even bother with a keyboard driver then when users could rather click their mouse buttons to create morse code.

That is one distro I will definitely not be trying.

Fair enough, but I think there's a certain amount of "YMMV" with distros, as witness the fact that I struggle to get networking in Slackware 14.2 (or any distro based on it) to work whilst no one else seems to have the same problem.

When I point out problems I've experienced with a distro, it's to inform people of the problems they may experience with it, not to tell people not to try it. I did that once (with a Greek distro called Slackel) and was quickly put in my place by other posters here who informed me that they hadn't had the same problems with it that I'd been experiencing.

Colonel Panic wrote:think there's a certain amount of "YMMV" with distros, as witness the fact that I struggle to get networking in Slackware 14.2

one thing that i think is really missing in the distro world is some way of testing more distros/features in an automated way.

im not expert on automating such a thing; i think its an idea worth exploring and considering, but the idea of testing everything by sending it out to users (while reasonable and itself a time-tested method with its own advantages) seems very old-fashioned for what could be possible these days.

not that automation would replace by-hand-testing, simply augment it. i also think theres a cultural shift in what users want to do, which doesnt make them any less entitled it does make the jobs of distro builders that much more interesting. im sympathizing mostly with the distro builders this time-- it would help users, too.

exlight http://exlight.exton.net/?p=4

I used the

cp xxx.iso /dev/sdf

approach to write the iso to USB and then booted that USB (login either using exlight userid and no password, or root userid and 'root' as password).

Some interesting animated wallpapers in a e17 (Enlightenment) style desktop (similar to macpup). Includes google chrome ... so good for netflix etc.

Colonel Panic wrote:....
When I point out problems I've experienced with a distro, it's to inform people of the problems they may experience with it, not to tell people not to try it.....

Fair enough point taken and of course they are free to try it although I certainly won't.