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Posted: Mon 20 Dec 2010, 02:25
by nooby
BigPup, my text was misleading you.
It boots but goes into kernel panic something.
it always when I activate debug stop at
b43-pci-bridge ... IRQ 16 then a blinking cursor
Karl Godt in a thread suggested this:
It might be a problem if a driver is two times available ( b43legacy. ), but I am not sure about that.
Which rhymes with that some say that one should "REMOVING SSB and blacklisting the stock b43 wireless driver."
Jemimah must have set things up differently in her Fluppy because that one never goes into panic.
Insidious Puppy seems to always work too. But it would be cool to have all puppies boot.
Posted: Mon 20 Dec 2010, 08:06
by bigpup
As for the Mint i am not sure but i remember i got success with the menu.lst entry produced by the grub4dosconfig-1.5.3 and later.
Sorry, did not mean to make you think there was a problem. I was just using as an example of something I had to do in the past. Latest Grub4dos no problem.
Posted: Fri 31 Dec 2010, 04:58
by sasaqqdan
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_Comfirm=$(gettext "Comfirmation")
Comfirmation should be Confirmation
Chinese support:
Recent Grub4DosConfig uses gettext
Posted: Fri 31 Dec 2010, 07:07
by shinobar
sasaqqdan wrote:Chinese support:
Thanks sasa, but isn't it outdated?
Grub4DosConfig 1.6.x uses gettext instead of simple localization.
You can find '/usr/share/doc/nls/grub4dosconfig/grub4dosconfig.pot' in the package, grub4dos-0.4.4.v1.6.3.pet .
Re: Recent Grub4DosConfig uses gettext
Posted: Fri 31 Dec 2010, 10:11
by sasaqqdan
shinobar wrote:sasaqqdan wrote:Chinese support:
Thanks sasa, but isn't it outdated?
Grub4DosConfig 1.6.x uses gettext instead of simple localization.
You can find '/usr/share/doc/nls/grub4dosconfig/grub4dosconfig.pot' in the package, grub4dos-0.4.4.v1.6.3.pet .
thanks,shinobar.I don't understand the word"Comfirmation".
Posted: Fri 07 Jan 2011, 10:33
by Stripe
Hi shinobar
I am still working on a usb based system (in slackpup) and was thinking what was the easiest/simplest way to make a frugal install work when extracted from a package to a usb stick. I was wanting to use an ext file system so the boot to usb is out. Obviously with the way grub4dos is working I thought of you.
Do you think it would be possible to modify grub4dos to make it Independent so if it was placed with a frugal install on a usb stick, when run it would automatically detect the puppy, make the usb boot-able and produce the menu? or even just make the usb boot-able so the puppy would run?
Sorry for being a nuisance
Stripe
rugal install on a usb stick
Posted: Fri 07 Jan 2011, 10:42
by shinobar
Stripe wrote:Do you think it would be possible to modify grub4dos to make it Independent so if it was placed with a frugal install on a usb stick, when run it would automatically detect the puppy, make the usb boot-able and produce the menu? or even just make the usb boot-able so the puppy would run?
Do you mean this?
Posted: Fri 07 Jan 2011, 10:52
by Stripe
Sorry shinobar if I was not clear
what I was thinking was a static version that could be packaged with the vmlniuz, intrid.gz and the pup-xxx-sfs in a tgz
so that when the package was unpacked on the usb stick, you would just click on the grub4dos and it would automaticaly install on that usb stick making the puppy able to run on that usb stick
Hope I explained it better this time
Thanks
Stripe
Automatic usb installer
Posted: Fri 07 Jan 2011, 10:58
by shinobar
Stripe wrote:what I was thinking was a static version that could be packaged with the vmlniuz, intrid.gz and the pup-xxx-sfs in a tgz
so that when the package was unpacked on the usb stick, you would just click on the grub4dos and it would automaticaly install on that usb stick making the puppy able to run on that usb stick
Sounds interesting.
I don't know the detail but the
puppeee by jemimah has some installer...
Well, you mean it works on Puppy?
Maybe i don't clealy understand your idea.
Posted: Fri 07 Jan 2011, 11:04
by Stripe
Thanks Shinobar
I will go and check that out, I just thought if we could give people a simple option of downloading a usb image as well as an iso. It would broaden the appeal of puppy
Thanks again
Stripe
Boot a LiveCD from Grub menu
Posted: Fri 07 Jan 2011, 15:28
by gcmartin
@Shinobar
This appears to add a feature where a CD can be booted from GRUB.
I haven't tried this: but
- Would this work for GRUB4DOS?
- Would this provide an ability to select and boot a CD on bios-PCs that won't boot from CD?
- Do you have a similar procedure somewhere that's an example of booting a LiveCD thru Grub4DOS?
Thanks in advance
P.S.
Here's another discussion you may find of interest.
P.S. I run a LiveCD environment on PCs that have 2 CD/DVD drives and diskette readers if theres concern on what types of PCs I use.
Re: Boot a LiveCD from Grub menu
Posted: Sat 08 Jan 2011, 00:52
by shinobar
Thanks for the information, gcmartin.
Me too havn't tried, but form the liteature, the Grub4Dos can boot some kind of .iso files but does not work with Puppy i guess.
It is somewhat simmilar with PXE boot.
We can boot Puppy with this method if we make the initrd.gz contains the main sfs.
P.S.
There is the
UNetBootin for the PC without CD.
Unfortunately, most recent Lupu-520 and Wary/Quirky fails unless
manually editing the syslinux.cfg file.
Posted: Sat 08 Jan 2011, 06:54
by nooby
One can boot but can one save things? Puppy though can not do iso boot.
Slitaz can be iso booted.
They had a thread on ubuntu forums a guys that listed how he made an USB mem stick do to iso boots of many OS. But very few seemed to be interested in it.
I was but I am a propeller head so I an too confused to grasp what is going on. But I did manage to boot a few too so even on my level if one follow instructions it can work. But that is for USB it does not work for frugal iso booting unless the OS is set up that way by the developer to allow it.
But from CD/DVD most likely it would work. The USB iso boot is trying to emulate a CD boot so CD should work even better.
The reason Puppy fail to do iso boot is explained by Shinobar above.
the sfs file is separate. On other OS they have it in two files or one file and that make them available for iso boot but then they can only save on nother partition or on a special "casper" file or a special save file for that OS.
But I know too little but wanted to do it too. I have the motivation bit not the means.
v1.6.9 test release
Posted: Sun 16 Jan 2011, 11:19
by shinobar
Now available the test release which supports Partition Boot Sector(PBS) install and Reiserfs(limited support).
grub4dos-0.4.4.v1.6.9.pet (Update: 16 Jan 2011)
Download from here
See
the document for the detail.
Testing and feed back are welcomed.
Posted: Sun 16 Jan 2011, 13:01
by bigpup
To boot a CD with Grub4dos add this entry to the menu.lst.
title Boot CD-ROM - (cd0)
cdrom --init
map --hook
chainloader (cd0)
rootnoverify (cd0)
Insert the CD after the boot menu comes up. Make sure to move off of the first menu choice so that does not get booted while you insert the CD.
Worked for me.
From info in the Grub4dos guide.
http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/boot.htm#cd
Boot CD from grub4dos on HDD
Posted: Sun 16 Jan 2011, 13:33
by shinobar
bigpup wrote:title Boot CD-ROM - (cd0)
cdrom --init
map --hook
chainloader (cd0)
rootnoverify (cd0)
Thanks bigpup for the interesting information.
It may depend on the hardware/BIOS.
As for my PC, it doesn't work. The grub4dos seems not recognize the device 'cd0'.
It's strange while my PC/BIOS can boot the cd...
Posted: Sun 16 Jan 2011, 13:51
by bigpup
Did you give the CD drive a little time to spin up after you inserted the CD?
The Grub4dos guide has other options to try.
http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/boot.htm#cd
Re: Boot CD from grub4dos on HDD
Posted: Sun 16 Jan 2011, 20:31
by shinobar
My cd has serial ata interface, that is the reason grub4dos cannot recognize it as cd0 i guess.
Of course it may also depend on the BIOS.
floppy disc
Posted: Tue 18 Jan 2011, 12:53
by yordanj94
Hi Shinobar.
Today i installed the last unstable version and tried to install on floppy disc .
I couldn't and got this massage :
/usr/sbin/grub4dosconfig
version 1.6d9
Tue Jan 18 14:28:28 UTC 2011
BINSTALLER=bootlace.com
sda(MBR)_41.1GB_ATA_ExcelStor_Techno
fd0_(FLOPPY_DISK)
sdb_1.9GB_Corsair_Flash_Voyager_
sda1/lucid/lupq-511.sfs|lupq_511
sda1/wary/wary_500.sfs|wary_500
sda4/boot/vmlinuz|Wary_Puppy_500
sdb1|Unknown
mkfs.msdos 3.0.7 (24 Dec 2009)
Wrigting... /mnt/fd0/menu.lst
Failed to make 'menu.lst'.
Installing bootloader on floppy...
Error: Invalid option.
BOOTLACE writes GRLDR BOOT RECORD to MBR or to the boot area of a file system.
Usage: bootlace.com [OPTIONS] DEVICE_OR_FILE
Options: --read-only, --floppy[=N], --boot-prevmbr-first, --boot-prevmbr-last,
--no-backup-mbr, --force-backup-mbr, --mbr-enable-floppy, --mbr-disable-floppy,
--mbr-enable-osbr, --mbr-disable-osbr, --duce, --time-out=T, --hot-key=K,
--preferred-drive=D, --preferred-partition=P, --sectors-per-track=S, --heads=H,
--start-sector=B, --total-sectors=C, --install-partition=I, --lba, --chs,
--fat12, --fat16, --fat32, --vfat, --ntfs, --ext2, --serial-number=SN,
--restore-mbr, --mbr-no-bpb, --chs-no-tune
DEVICE_OR_FILE: Filename of the device or image. For DOS, a BIOS drive number
(in hex 0xHH or decimal DDD format)can be used to access the drive.
Failed to install bootlace.com.
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Re: floppy disc (v1.6.9)
Posted: Wed 19 Jan 2011, 02:00
by shinobar
Thanks, yordanj94. Confirmed.
There is a typo in /usr/sbin/grub4dosconfig at line 1495(number of hyphen'-' should both be 2).
Wrong:
Correct:
OPT="--floppy --chs"
Another issue on floppy install: The grub4doscpnfig 1.6.9 gives warning that the MBR is not botable for the floppy install. Ignore the warning please.
Sorry for your inconvenience.