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Posted: Thu 25 Dec 2008, 10:02
by 01micko
zigbert wrote:01micko
The rox window on your screenshot shows the icon2desk function in combination with the stardust icons. Be aware that the Stardust icon-theme is not updated to match the standard required for the icon2desk function. Only DeepThought and JQ8flat-lite is built with the new icon-theme-standard.
Sigmund
I kind of figured something like that because many icons are missing. No matter though, just playing around.
Posted: Sun 28 Dec 2008, 19:17
by J-Bob
hopefully the deepthought theme will make it into puppy 4.2.
but if it does not i do know one other place you could almost be guaranteed to have in go into.
i decided i would try to revive puppy 3.02, and tronkel and ttuuxxx seem to like my idea. and currently i'm now the coordinator of it. So i call a good amount of the shots, while i have tronkel and ttuuxxx giving me advice.
so if it does not make it into 4.2. all you need to do is rename it lassie or chihuahua, and it's very likely it might get in 3.02CE.
it's true, ask tronkel or ttuuxxx if you want. And i hope for the best for you and your theme Zigbert.
- J-Bob
Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 07:25
by ttuuxxx
Hey WhoDo I have something you wanted???? Ok Guess..........................................................................................................................
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nope thats not it
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nope still not it
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ok give up?????????
LOL sorry I had too
ok ok here it is, You asked for a icewm around 1.5MB, Well I figured around 1MB but I managed to even reduce that to almost half, hows 550kb including 1 theme? This is the smallest I think I can get. within 50kb or so
here ya gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
have fun
just install the pet and restartX, thats it, plus I didn't touch xinitrc what so ever
ttuuxxx
Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 08:03
by WhoDo
ttuuxxx wrote:Hey WhoDo I have something you wanted???? ...[
snip bragging .... and baiting .... 
] You asked for a icewm around 1.5MB, Well I figured around 1MB but I managed to even ruduce that to almost half, hows 550kb including 1 theme?
Holy $h!t and WOW, Jeff!!!
I just tested it and it works brilliantly!!!! It's in, IN,
IN! Heck, 148kb of that is in the THEME!
AND ... it goes back to JWM at the single click of a button! Now if someone would edit the JWM menu files so you could quick click to start IceWM from JWM then our users would have the best of all worlds .... especially since Zigbert's Pwidgets stay live and active through the switch!! Yeehah!!!
Great job, ttuuxxx!
Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 16:21
by zigbert
J-Bob wrote:hopefully the deepthought theme will make it into puppy 4.2.
but if it does not i do know one other place you could almost be guaranteed to have in go into.
Remember that all I do for Puppy is freely available, but in respect of Puppy 4.2 - WhoDo should choose first. Else, I hope my contributions will be used when someone finds them good enough.
Sigmund
Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 16:23
by zigbert
The DeepThought_jwm_tray package has been upgraded to version 0.4.
See main post.
This is a fix that is critical when using the latest Pwidgets addition: Photo slideshow widget.
Sigmund
Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 16:48
by ttuuxxx
Sigmund I think WhoDo wants your JWM+Themes as the main default windows manager and also add IceWm as a built in alternative, Because what you 've done to JWM is just totally excellent:) I just made it possible to have an extra for others to enjoy. Heck why not mess around with my theme and build a new taskbar and menu, Its only a couple of tiny images.
You did a great job with JWM.
ttuuxxx
Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 21:20
by WhoDo
zigbert wrote:Remember that all I do for Puppy is freely available, but in respect of Puppy 4.2 - WhoDo should choose first. Else, I hope my contributions will be used when someone finds them good enough.
Deepthought gtk theme, icons, JWM mods, etc are all part of Puppy 4.2 "Deepthought" and will be the default settings. I have already built 2 pre-alphas based on that. Those also included Pwidgets installed at boot.
Puppy is all about choice, too. I have included ttuuxxx's brilliant minimalist IceWM 1.2.36 as an alternative because it is easily small enough to do that. On my reckoning about 95% of the community uses either one or the other wm, and this way they will ALL be happy for very little additional cost.
As promised, however, JWM will be the default. That's why I have asked for someone familiar with JWM to sort out its ability to switch to IceWM. ttuuxxx has IceWM switching seamlessly to JWM; I just need that to work both ways.
Cheers
Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 22:05
by 01micko
Sigmund
I notice the icon in "DeepThought" for Abiword is the font icon, 'TT'. I have been using the "Darkfire" Abiword icon in with your "DeepThought" icons.
I coppied 'word48.png' from /usr/local/lib/X11/themes/Darkfire to /usr/local/lib/X11/themes/DeepThought, then reset the icon theme with 'Menu|Desktop|Desktop Icon Switcher.
I just thought it looked better. It fits in quite well.
Mick
Posted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 02:54
by ttuuxxx
WhoDo wrote:zigbert wrote:
That's why I have asked for someone familiar with JWM to sort out its ability to switch to IceWM. ttuuxxx has IceWM switching seamlessly to JWM; I just need that to work both ways.
Cheers
Whodo I have an idea, I'll try to work it, What I need from you is a copy of
/etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc with all the changes by zigbert. I would have to amened it. To use a new script idea
ttuuxxx
Posted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 03:24
by WhoDo
ttuuxxx wrote:What I need from you is a copy of
/etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc with all the changes by zigbert. I would have to amened it. To use a new script idea
Here ya go, mate.
Posted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 03:43
by 01micko
Here is my curent desktop, all current `DeepThought' applied, with my idea for Abi icon, hacked clock and slideshow frame widgets. I'll add all those hacks to the Analog-clock `howto' and rename it, I'll do weather too.
BTW the pic in the slideshow is of the Australian Open 2007 when my wife went. Just coincidence it came up as I snapped the screenshot, suits the green clock and frame.
Posted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 07:17
by ttuuxxx
Ok here ya go again, this time jwm has a icewm button when you click the button it activates a tiny script that copies a defaultwm file, that has icewm-session on it, into etc then it just restarts x server. So it will automatically start icewm. There is no seamless option for jwm to restart another window manager like icewm does. But this works, just not as well as icewm does it. Oh well I'll keep looking
anyways heres a test model.
ttuuxxx
Posted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 07:42
by ttuuxxx
the only problem that it has would be when you switch from icewm>>jwm then when your in jwm and restart X server, it reverts back to icewm because its using the defaultwm from etc that was changed to fix this I might have to make 1 more script in icewm that copies a jwm defaultwm file to etc and then executes the seamless transition. hmmm that would work
in theory, here I go again. lol who song that "Here I go again on my own" hmmm maybe whitesnake from the 80's?? song popped into my head while typing this, lol
ttuuxxx
Grey
Posted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 09:40
by ecomoney
Fantastic...it isnt GREY!!!!
Well...Much
I think that the MENU button should be re-labelled "Start". This is what new users will be expecting.
Posted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 13:04
by 01micko
ttuuxxx wrote:the only problem that it has would be when you switch from icewm>>jwm then when your in jwm and restart X server, it reverts back to icewm because its using the defaultwm from etc that was changed to fix this I might have to make 1 more script in icewm that copies a jwm defaultwm file to etc and then executes the seamless transition. hmmm that would work
in theory, here I go again. lol who song that "Here I go again on my own" hmmm maybe whitesnake from the 80's?? song popped into my head while typing this, lol
ttuuxxx
And here it is again!
Posted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 13:31
by J-Bob
Congrats on getting your theme into 4.2.
but sadly this means that it's likely i might not be able to use it in 3.02. just personal reasons.
well, i guess stardust is staying, because i have absolutely no graphics skills what so ever.
but either way, congrats on getting in.
Posted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 13:46
by 01micko
J-Bob wrote:Congrats on getting your theme into 4.2.
but sadly this means that it's likely i might not be able to use it in 3.02. just personal reasons.
well, i guess stardust is staying, because i have absolutely no graphics skills what so ever.
but either way, congrats on getting in.
ttuuxxx theme?
Posted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 14:05
by ttuuxxx
I'm building a lite icewm theme right now, been on it for about 5 hrs, Almost done, Still have to make a new clock plus I have an idea/trick that I was thinking up,
I might try with the clock. What I'm thinking is if I use the slash and the dot which aren't being used at all, I could change them to rounded edges and give the clock an oval shape instead of a rectangle.
I never seen it done before but it makes sense. I might try it before actually doing all that work.
ttuuxxx
Posted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 15:06
by 01micko
ttuuxxx,
I reckon you have this covered but forum member trio has a good
point.
If you don't have this code
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#xli picture viewer
WM_CLASS=xli
WM_NAME=xli
xli.layer: Desktop
xli.allWorkspaces: 1
xli.dBorder: 0
xli.dTitleBar: 0
xli.ignoreTaskBar: 1
xli.dMaximize: 0
xli.dMinimize: 0
xli.dRollup: 0
xli.dResize: 0
xli.dClose: 0
at the bottom of ~/.icewm/winoptions the slideshow looks like a mess.