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Posted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 01:25
by noryb009
Is there one part of the boot process that the computer stays on for a while (longer then usual)? What is on the screen at that time?

Posted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 16:07
by mtiqbal
At login [...]:root [tty1] screen there is about a minute delay.

At starting X .... screen delay is about 2 minutes.

During the delays HD is busy (led is on). This should not happen.

Posted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 19:14
by noryb009
Those two parts happen after the part that the windows installer controls, so it's unlikely that the windows installer is causing the slowdown. The best thing to do is probably post the problem in the users forum.

I'm guessing that the problem is with X starting up. When you boot up, go to"Start Puppy Linux", press escape, (I think you have to select "OK" or something here), highlight Puppy 550 PAE, press e, change "pfix=fsck" to "pfix=fsck,nox". The startup will leave you at a terminal. If you get to this point quickly, and the hard drive light is not on, then the problem is X starting up. At this stage, type "xwin", followed by an enter. If X takes a long time to start, the problem is definitely X starting up.

Posted: Wed 20 Mar 2013, 00:45
by mtiqbal
No. Problem is not with X start up since it works fine without 4fs file. Problem is with the installer and login. I have reinstalled 5.4 PAE Opera on one of my computer and it has no such issue. It works fine and fast with or without 4fs file.

Posted: Wed 20 Mar 2013, 01:31
by noryb009
No. Problem is not with X start up since it works fine without 4fs file. Problem is with the installer and login.
The problem is X starting up the second time, after the save file has been created.

The simplest solution is to just stay at 5.4 PAE Opera, or to install 5.5 another way. However, if you still want to use the windows installer, can you try what I posted in my last post?

No idea how to make my own exe

Posted: Sat 23 Mar 2013, 14:52
by danneauxs
OK, I admit the directions were a bit to essoteric for me. Prob if I had half an idea what I was doing they would but clueless so I did my own cludge to load the puppy verision I wanted.

I add puppies to my linux machine simply by making a directory, copying the proper files into it and adding an entry to my grub.

Basically I did the same thing on my windows machine thanks to the windows installer. I simply installed one of the pre-compiled installers which did all the work (grub4dos) for me. I make a folder, copy the puppy files from the ISO I'm testing that day and add an entry to the menu.lst. Done and easy.

I'll prob ask for help making my own exe in a while so I can take my favorite pup to install on friends windows pc's.

Thanks
Danneauxs

Windows 8 support

Posted: Sat 11 May 2013, 05:02
by shinobar
Hello.
How about supporting Windows 8?
I guess we need to use the 'compatible mode' on Windows 8.

Posted: Sat 11 May 2013, 14:54
by noryb009
I tried to add windows 8 support before, but there were a lot of glitches when running it in virtual box, so I decided to leave it. I tried it again today, and it seems to be working. I've made the changes but I've only tested it on 32-bit, without UEFI or secure boot. I'm pretty sure it will work fine with 64-bit, but I'm not sure about secure boot when it is enabled.

If someone can test it on 64-bit or with UEFI/secure boot, that would be appreciated! I've compiled an installer for pUPnGO (~7MB), or you can make your own installer from the code here.

Re: Windows 8 support

Posted: Mon 13 May 2013, 04:28
by shinobar
Thanks noryb009 for the quick response on the Windows 8 support.

Unfortunately I have no Windows 8 yet.
But I tried merging your code with PIC-NLS with Japanese.nsh to support Windows 8.
One more thing, i add *.4fs at Uninstall in the main.nsi.

http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/test/

Posted: Mon 13 May 2013, 19:19
by noryb009
Hopefully somebody who has windows 8 will find it and try it out.
One more thing, i add *.4fs at Uninstall in the main.nsi.
Thanks, I've added this.

EDIT:
But I tried merging your code with PIC-NLS with Japanese.nsh to support Windows 8.
I've added NLS support to the main code base, but have not yet added any translations. If you want to not have to merge future code to your fork and benefit the main code at the same time, you can make a translation file here, then send it to me.

Russian translation

Posted: Thu 16 May 2013, 19:00
by rodin.s
I have made Russian translation.

Posted: Thu 16 May 2013, 20:40
by noryb009
Thank you, rodin.s!

Windows 8 and Japanese support

Posted: Thu 16 May 2013, 23:07
by shinobar
shinobar wrote:Thanks noryb009 for the quick response on the Windows 8 support.

Unfortunately I have no Windows 8 yet.
But I tried merging your code with PIC-NLS with Japanese.nsh to support Windows 8.
One more thing, i add *.4fs at Uninstall in the main.nsi.

http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/test/
There is the Japanese translation: PIC-NLS-win8-2013-05-12.tar.gz

Made Puppy-Linux-549JP03.exe (test release).
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?pu ... cise/test/
I tested t on the Windows 8 enterprise both 32bit/64bit and works OK.

Posted: Sat 18 May 2013, 19:51
by noryb009
It's great that it works on 64-bit! Do you know if the computers you tried it on had UEFI or secure boot enabled?

UEFI boot

Posted: Sun 19 May 2013, 07:39
by shinobar
noryb009 wrote:Do you know if the computers you tried it on had UEFI or secure boot enabled?
I tried on the VmPlayer with 'firmware="efi'. The installer maybe worked correctly (see the bcd entries below),
But it fails to boot up puppy. :cry:
I suppose the grub4dos is not compatible with UEFI.

Posted: Sun 19 May 2013, 16:25
by noryb009
Thanks for testing UEFI. I'll look into ways we can get it to work.

Posted: Wed 22 May 2013, 00:51
by noryb009
Precise Puppy Linux 560 has been uploaded, see the link in the first post.

It includes Windows 8 support when BIOS is enabled (not UEFI yet) and secure boot off.

I did not include the Russian translation, as I still need to do a bit more testing with it (I was going to include it, then found a mistake in the code, so I skipped it for now). It will probably be enabled in the next build.

Posted: Thu 23 May 2013, 00:10
by don570
All Macintosh computers using Intel chips use UEFI and many users
run Windows on their mac computer. So if you can get the installer to
work on a Mac computer running windows that would be quite an
achievement.

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Posted: Thu 23 May 2013, 02:23
by noryb009
Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't know if I could get that to work. If it works once UEFI support for windows is added, great. If it doesn't, I won't spend any time on it, as I don't have access to a mac.

Posted: Thu 23 May 2013, 02:56
by 01micko
Sorry for OT noryb009, but to address don570's concern with mac computers:

My wife has a recent macbook air, purchased at the beginning of this year. I stumbled upon someone booting Fedora off a usb stick on their macbook air here. According to that articele, it boots no problem from a FAT usb stick holding down the "Option" key.

I decided to try this with a stick I had lying around that had PHATSlacko on it on and f2fs drive, using syslinux to boot from a FAT partition. It failed. But, I had another stick lying around that used grub4dos as the boot loader, all the puppy RO files on a FAT partition but the save file on f2fs and it booted and ran perfectly, all devices recognised. No reason I can think of that it wouldn't work on other pups or macs. (macbook pro, imac). F2fs would not be necessary, just FAT and booting with grub/grub4dos.


When I get more time I will go into this further (in another thread).