(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Alucinary wrote:Unless I've been a bit blind and missed them then I'm really looking forward to seeing the first releases for me to download and boot!

Image for SAP alpha 4 by BarryK <--
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79359

Brilliant!

Thanks

Puppi Power images as a base already being used
but more welcome



and here is some wallpaper (bit big for forum)
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/115/wallpaper5t.jpg

Puppy Linux
Power to You

Alucinary do your know? Are you aware of that
you need a higher quality of SD card than one
usually buy in cheap stores? Was it quality 6
or even 8 that one need and those that usually
sell is quality 4 or my poor memory fails me.

Here in Sweden we almost only have MicroSD
and not standard SD. So not sure why the guys
behind RPi chose such odd format?

Did not Barry write on his blog that he long for to
get his Mele 1000 to work and him a bit skeptical
to RPi? My poor reading read at his blog.

http://bkhome.org/blog/?do=listComments

Was it quality 6

It was class 6 and above

So not sure why the guys
behind RPi chose such odd format?

Price.

nooby wrote:Alucinary do your know? Are you aware of that
you need a higher quality of SD card than one
usually buy in cheap stores? Was it quality 6
or even 8 that one need and those that usually
sell is quality 4 or my poor memory fails me.

Here in Sweden we almost only have MicroSD
and not standard SD. So not sure why the guys
behind RPi chose such odd format?

Did not Barry write on his blog that he long for to
get his Mele 1000 to work and him a bit skeptical
to RPi? My poor reading read at his blog.

http://bkhome.org/blog/?do=listComments

Barry recommends 6, though the guys actually at Raspberry Pi said minimum of 4... I have to admit that I myself have actually just shoved in a 4GB HC PNY SD card I had lying around so no idea what class it was though I suspect at least 4 - doing just fine for now

unfortunately price has dictated a lot of the design as it would be nice to use microSD, mini-HDMI, micro USB, mini ethernet etc etc and have an even smaller footprint to play with... then again a lot of the point is the low cost and that's definitely a bonus at £25 for a PC!

About sd cards,

I don't believe everything what I read.

Just now I booted from a sd card with only one 268MB partition (rest is unallocated space) and my puppy files are on a usb hd. Also a usb stick should work.

So if you have at least a 4GB usb stick, a 256MB sd card should be enough. Maybe the class doesn't matter in this case. I can't test it, because I kow that I have an adapter for a micro sd and at least one very old 2GB sd card, but they're lost in (my) space.

~Rolf

rhadon that is cool.
So the big ones cost less than the small ones with adapter?
But if you have a lot of micro-SD and none of the big ones
then to travel to inner city or pay for the cost of sending it
that would be two times the price of another RPi?

Rhadon you made me smile with this one
Ich verwende "frugal", und das ist gut so.

Only this you should not tell the Ubuntu guys. They get very angry

nooby wrote:So the big ones cost less than the small ones with adapter?

I think so.

...that would be two times the price of another RPi?

I guess that sweden is a little bit more expensive than germany, but this is hard to believe. I think that micro sds with adapter (at least 256MB) are also working. But it's a guess, I can't test, and sometimes reality doesn't care about what I think.

Only this you should not tell the Ubuntu guys. They get very angry

Also running always as root is like walking naked trough the town (for them). I don't want to tell anybody that frugal is better than full, or running as root is better. It's my preference. If anybody doesn't like it, is this my problem? I don't think so.

~Rolf

Thanks Rolf, I am with you on such matters.

Re Raspberry Puppi

I really love this as a concept indeed. To teach programming.
But I need a VGA connector not a HDMI.

And such devices exists now and only cost some 10 USD more
and are from Via named APC. ARM Powered Computer???

49USD I should buy one. Only my laziness is in the way.
I should send one to Barry so he put puppy on it too.

Sorry derailing the thread. Can't we have both? RPi and Via APC?

nooby wrote:Alucinary do your know? Are you aware of that
you need a higher quality of SD card than one
usually buy in cheap stores?

...

Did not Barry write on his blog that he long for to
get his Mele 1000 to work and him a bit skeptical
to RPi? My poor reading read at his blog.

Using SAP6 alpha4 now and it works in my DVI-capable monitor at 1366x768 default resolution.

SD Card used is class 10 (Barry suggested the use of higher class of cards).

About Barry's comments, are you referring to the "Raspi Ki11er" discussion?

Thanks Raffy

yes that thread and others like it.
Via APC and Mele 1000 and the MK802
and the Norwegian FXI something?
and the Korean thing too. Forgot name.

I like those of these that can give output
to VGA and that have LAN on the card
and not just Wifi and I love most that some
or all of them have Micro SD instead of standard.

I'm not against RPi at all. I love that the schools
can make use of it. But personally it force me
to abandon many very good LCD screens
that I ahve at home. Only one of them can take
HDMI and all the rest require VGA.

So to let 4 good LCD go to scrapbox that is not good at all.
Sure I have the money but it is not a good way to live that
resource greedy askingfor HDMI all the time when most
monitors are VGA

So I want puppy to exist for both RPi and for all the small
USB sticks and the small smart TV boards and sticks.

Well... nooby yes, you are off topic..

Raspi does have RCA output..

I guess the designers figured the kids may not have modern telly sets, eh?

-

Sorry derailing the thread. Can't we have both? RPi and Via APC?

In progress AFAIK

Raspberry Pi people finally tell Android sandwich strategey

http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1700

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About omxplayer:

It works only fine from console.
If you set run action from file manager, it also works, but there is no key control.

As a compromise, you can build a omxplayer.desktop file and place it to ~/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/SendTo/

Now you can right clickt a movie, choose
Open With... and select omxplayer.desktop.

Working keys (at least for me):
(P)ause
(Space) also pause
(Q)uit
(2) and (1) increase, decrease speed
(Arrow keys) skip

Found on the RasPi forum.

~Rolf

I've compiled mit scheme on my Pi. This took a long time (>24 hours) and I had some help from the mit-scheme devel mailing group.

Mit-scheme is my preferred implementation of Scheme, so I thought it was worth taking the time to build it.

You can download a tar.gz of the binaries here:
mit-scheme-9.1.1_ARM

Here's a couple of other Scheme implementations. Gambit is quite a nice, friendly one.
These are not .pets, I'm afraid. They are .tar.gz archives.
I compiled them on Arch, so if anyone wants to give them a whirl on SAP, I'd appreciate it.

Gambit
Scheme48

I am wondering if someone could run the BOINC manager from worldcommunitygrid.org, and run the project "Say No to Schistosoma". It would be the only current application that can be run on the rpi, due to the rpi's memory limitations. I wish to know if it is possible, and if it is, I would like any information you may gather from it. Specifically, I would like to know the cpu temperature, ram usage, and time it takes to run 1 work unit.

Because the ram usage will be high, you may need to load only the minimum amount of puppy into ram. Please add in your post if this is the case.

Hi,

on all my computers I can decide for myself, which systems are to be installed. Even on 15 years old machines I am able to install Linux or Windows. I may with Linux choose the language and keyboard layout. I can install most of current programs.
Only with my state-of-the-art and latest computer from 2010 I am not able to install another system. I can rarely add any application. Inside there is a modern SSD with 16GB. I may add a sdcard with 32GB. Nevertheless I may use only 128MB in total for application programs. It is a kind of Linux system, which is forbidding to me many actions, because I don't have root rights. This is Android 1.6 without AndroidMarket. Although this computer was sold from the biggest computer manufacturer HP: model HP Compaq Airlife 100. From HP homepage there is not a bit to download and requests are not answered.
For frequently sold smartphones the vendors deliver updated android versions. Otherwise there exists a worldwide hacker network, which offers upgraded Android versions.
With my computer there exists neither nor, because it was sold rarely only in Spanish speaking countries.
The computer owns a Snapdragon cpu QSD8250 from Qualcomm with 1GHz (similar to ARM Cortex A8). This is an Armv7 cpu type.

It would be beautiful, if a Puppy would run with this hardware. Do I have a chance?

Svgt