Posted: Sun 22 May 2011, 01:50
anyway it's up to folks to decide for themselves, you make a clear distinction in what you say vs what BK sez
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jonyo wrote:and i say again users are the foundation of a distro
... and I'm not really fat! Thanks. Now I feel a lot better!Paul Sweeney wrote:Self-delusion is pulling in your stomach when you step on the scales.
Sounds an awful lot like my comment a few days ago...James C wrote:I'll just paraphrase my post from the other silly thread......
.When a participant has to resort to insults and belittlement toward those who disagree the debate is lost
Q5sys wrote:That sir, is what is called an 'ad hominem attack'. Short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to link the validity or invalidity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of the person advocating the premise.puppyite wrote:Why don’t you support AttackPup and help others of your ilk crack their neighbors network and steal their Internet access?
Ad hominem attacks are where you attack the person, and not the argument. If you can’t pick apart the argument being made, don’t go after the person. It makes you look stupid. If your response to my point is to attack me personally, you’ve lost. You’ve got no point to make, and you’re just embarassing yourself.
Abusive ad hominem attacks involve insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to invalidate your argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults your opponent's personal character or actions which have nothing to do with the logical merits of the your opponent's arguments or assertions
As for AttackPup, thanks for the free advertisement about it. It's a release intended for those within the Security community, those who wish to do security analysis of their own systems or those who are interested in learning about Computer Security. If you dont like those tactics... take that up with the greater Computer Security Community.
puppyite wrote:The fact that a Puppy Linux Foundation ever existed tells me that there is a need for governance. Why it ceased operation is of no consequence at this late date.
To take this one step further... why have my suggestions for the PuppyLinux FAQ gone ignored? I thought public governance and giving everyone a 'seat at the table' was what someone wanted. Why are you not letting me have a seat at the table you run? Can you say Hypocritical?MinHundHettePerro wrote:Right, mate. You post a reply on a thread in a forum, and just 6+ hrs later you indignantly ask why there hasn't been a response yet!!!puppyite wrote:Oh really, then why hasn't this been answered.puppyluvr wrote: I assure you, I`m not being "dim"...
Read the "Official Lupu 5.25" thread....
Tell me Playdayz didnt bend over backwards...
this strikes me as someone who understands the significance of a user-baseWhoDo wrote:jonyo wrote:and i say again users are the foundation of a distro... and I'm not really fat! Thanks. Now I feel a lot better!Paul Sweeney wrote:Self-delusion is pulling in your stomach when you step on the scales.
Not if you let the crowd run the mixing board.....Puppy will just work, no hassles
i doubt you speak for puppy linux and if you do, get lostpuppyluvr wrote: But if you cant play.....shut up and listen....
... and immediately following your hand-picked quote comes this little gem:jonyo wrote:this strikes me as someone who understands the significance of a user-base
http://puppylinuxnews.org/home/p_9/...[snip]... in particular
Puppy will be extremely friendly for Linux newbies
Puppy will just work, no hassles
Now tell me you didn't just ignore that bit, jonyo?How is Puppy organised?
It depends on what is trying to be achieved
Version 4.2 of Puppy is run by project leader Warren Willson
Individual projects are run by individuals or a core cell of individuals
Because Puppy is both flexible and fast, we can set up an organization as required for a given aim
Says who? Are you presuming to speak for everyone else who doesn't speak for puppy linux? That would include me, wouldn't it? You don't speak for me!jonyo wrote:i doubt you speak for puppy linux and if you do, get lostpuppyluvr wrote: But if you cant play.....shut up and listen....
This does not logically follow.jonyo wrote:devs that expect nothing can expect the same in return or whatever it is that they put outRetroTechGuy wrote:We still don't have a contract with these devs, and they really owe us nothing.
I'm afraid that lots of people ignore what Aitch has to say.puppyluvr wrote: Kello,
Please clarify, as the only post by Aitch I find in this thread, is a link....
Please assemble the complaints in one post...
I truly do not see the "lack of cooperation" mentioned...
That is correct. I as a USER say "beggars can't be choosers".And the "Beggars cant be choosers" quote, attributed to some "From on high" or some such nonsense was R.TG., who, as I recall, is a USER, and not a developer...
And I am using one of Playdayz fine products right now (5.20). My thanks to Playdayz and his fine team!WhoDo wrote:Because it's ill-mannered and insulting! Playdayz was the project coordinator! He made ALL of the decisions on policy, direction and inclusions. Yes, Mick was the lead developer. He did a great job! Playdayz was the driver - ultimate arbiter or dictator if you prefer - and he DID take on board each and every suggestion. Some people just cannot accept that NO is also an answer!!!puppyite wrote:Oh really, then why hasn't this been answered.puppyluvr wrote: I assure you, I`m not being "dim"...
Read the "Official Lupu 5.25" thread....
Tell me Playdayz didnt bend over backwards...