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Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 07:56
by WhoDo
cthisbear wrote:Well most things seem nice and smooth.

But the drive icons.
This has to be addressed as well as unmounting.
All squared away, Chris. Check the Beta release coming soon. :wink:

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 09:04
by Ray MK
Hi

This is sounding good - can't wait.

Once again - many thanks to all concerned for all the hard work and brain-strain.

I think puppy is already the best small distro by a long way -
this CE elevates puppy to the highest levels.

Stonking stuff

Very best regards - Ray

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 09:15
by ttuuxxx
I'll get it ready for beta 2, I just received your message. probably don't have enough time, to reduce it all. Testers of beta4 please keep your copies handy for testing, the updated packages, I still have some work to do on them.
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 09:21
by ttuuxxx
actually cool pup just informed me that a newer Gutenprint is out, I'm downloading right now, the source package is 1.5MB larger, so I don't know it it will do at all. Depends how it compiles I guess.
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 09:28
by ttuuxxx
WhoDo do I have any time left I'm working on it, The pressure is on :)
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 09:47
by ttuuxxx
WhoDo please don't forget the usb plugin. or we'll have a lot of complaints.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=15011

ttuuxxx

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 10:34
by ttuuxxx
WhoDo I'm uploading a small Ghostscript package, If I had say about 1.5Hrs I could do a lot in that time, I'll try to get you everything asap,
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 10:39
by ttuuxxx
Here's the Ghostscript package. Its small because I removed the fonts like Barry did I, also linked it the our built in fonts, not sure if it works or not, not time to test. But it worked in the past for barry without the links.
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... 4-i386.pet
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 10:56
by pa_mcclamrock
WhoDo wrote:Check the Beta release coming soon. :wink:
Hey, I've got the 4.1.1 version of Remaster Express done except for a bit of needed testing; it just ejected a completed live-CD for me as I was typing this. (Right after I get done with this message, I'll put up links to the completed set of screenshots in the "Remastering remastering" thread.) [EDIT: And here they are: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 765#274765] Can I have the 4.2 versions of packages.txt and 0pkgs_db, so I can work up the 4.2 version of Remaster Express really fast? :D

Also, there's still a problem with the Tcl 8.5.6 .PET (the "clock" command doesn't work, and apps that invoke it won't start). I PM'd rarsa several days ago, but I haven't received any notice that he's corrected the problem, if he has. I appreciate the fact that he slimmed Tcl and Tk down considerably, but I can't help wondering if he may have cut out too much in addition to the "msgcat" package that's needed to make "clock" work. I hope you can either (1) successfully beg him to fix Tcl 8.5.6 really soon or (2) bring yourself to cram in my somewhat fatter 8.5.5-runtime .PETs straight out of Slackware, unless and until the problem with 8.5.6 is fixed. (They still amount to a lot less than the 4 MB you were originally considering for Tcl and Tk!)

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 11:05
by ttuuxxx
pa_mcclamrock wrote:
WhoDo wrote:Check the Beta release coming soon. :wink:
Hey, I've got the 4.1.1 version of Remaster Express done except for a bit of needed testing; it just ejected a completed live-CD for me as I was typing this. (Right after I get done with this message, I'll put up links to the completed set of screenshots in the "Remastering remastering" thread.) Can I have the 4.2 versions of packages.txt and 0pkgs_db, so I can work up the 4.2 version of Remaster Express really fast? :D

Also, there's still a problem with the Tcl 8.5.6 .PET (the "clock" command doesn't work, and apps that invoke it won't start). I PM'd rarsa several days ago, but I haven't received any notice that he's corrected the problem, if he has. I appreciate the fact that he slimmed Tcl and Tk down considerably, but I can't help wondering if he may have cut out too much in addition to the "msgcat" package that's needed to make "clock" work. I hope you can either (1) successfully beg him to fix Tcl 8.5.6 really soon or (2) bring yourself to cram in my somewhat fatter 8.5.5-runtime .PETs straight out of Slackware, unless and until the problem with 8.5.6 is fixed. (They still amount to a lot less than the 4 MB you were originally considering for Tcl and Tk!)
I compiled the full version last week, I have it on file here, the one which rarsa provided didn't contain any dev files for compiling so it made it useless for me when I wanted to compile the latest amsn, but by then the 2 packages weren't compatible, So it messed everything up, When i'm done of printing and icewm, I'll move over to tcl and build a release, with the dev files available for the devx or to download.
ttuuxxx

dell laptop 1526, no booting kernel

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 11:17
by ferikenagy
As i had reported time ago(and some other members too on different dell), the last puppy that boots the kernel on Dell laptop 1526 was puppy alpha 406 with kernel 2.6.25.15.,next kernel 2.6.25.16 after writing "booting kernel." it stops,hangs.

Initially I supposed some drive/modules change in kernel from 2.6.25.15 to 2.6.25.16, or some changes in <init> script from "initrd" , for my surprise the only difference between them where some encrypting modules,so not there was the difference.

the answer to this bug seems to be in kernel compile configuration, because for my surprise 2 experimental puplets with the same kernel 2.6.25.16 but with different configuration from standard, both with SMP enabled (to run on multicore enviroment) boots & runs with no problems ,on my Dell 1526, these are:
galipup : g_pup-1.2.iso, (with MU SMP kernel for 4.1.2) and lxde-pup411-k2.6.27.5-dillo-v01.iso

Now there is still some question: if the difference is in enabling SMP only or there was some other difference in configuration that makes it to work on my dell (processor is AMD Turion 64x2 TL60)

Re: dell laptop 1526, no booting kernel

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 11:29
by ttuuxxx
ferikenagy wrote:As i had reported time ago(and some other members too on different dell), the last puppy that boots the kernel on Dell laptop 1526 was puppy alpha 406 with kernel 2.6.25.15.,next kernel 2.6.25.16 after writing "booting kernel." it stops,hangs.

Initially I supposed some drive/modules change in kernel from 2.6.25.15 to 2.6.25.16, or some changes in <init> script from "initrd" , for my surprise the only difference between them where some encrypting modules,so not there was the difference.

the answer to this bug seems to be in kernel compile configuration, because for my surprise 2 experimental puplets with the same kernel 2.6.25.16 but with different configuration from standard, both with SMP enabled (to run on multicore enviroment) boots & runs with no problems ,on my Dell 1526, these are:
galipup : g_pup-1.2.iso, (with MU SMP kernel for 4.1.2) and lxde-pup411-k2.6.27.5-dillo-v01.iso

Now there is still some question: if the difference is in enabling SMP only or there was some other difference in configuration that makes it to work on my dell (processor is AMD Turion 64x2 TL60)
Both my desktops are AMD athlon's 64x2 and I never Had a issue with cpu's.If that helps, I never needed SMP enabled to run Puppy, Would be nice to have it, but the size difference is a lot if I remember right:)
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 11:42
by pa_mcclamrock
ttuuxxx wrote:When i'm done [with] printing and icewm, I'll move over to tcl and build a release, with the dev files available for the devx or to download.
Great--thanks! (Hang on, WhoDo!)

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 12:22
by ttuuxxx
I just printed with abiword, Keep in mind I never used Linux printing before yesterday really, so this is all new to me, But on the other hand I'm pretty good a compiling and getting things to work, so feel confident :) Anyways How does Abiword print, the way I did it was create a PDF and saved it, then opened the pdf and printed it, when I tried 'Generic Postscript' Abiword Crashes, and when I ran it via command line, and tried it again I got this message
# abiword

** (abiword:9606): WARNING **: Can't g_module_open /usr/lib/libgnomeprint/2.18.2/modules/libgnomeprintcups.so

lpr: Error - no default destination available.
Broken pipe

So was the Generic Postscript always broken in Abiword ?
I'll look for a fix
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 12:35
by nic2109
1. Has this problem been fixed? I still get it.
I checked my e-mail with Claws and got the mail, but I also got an error message saying "The Bogofilter plugin couldn't filter a message. The command `bogofilter -T -b` couldn't be run."
2. One of the first things I do with each new "I think I'll keep this one" installation is to edit rc.shutdown (in /etc/rc.d) and add an 'eject' statement at the bottom. This enables me to remove the CD I forget was still in the tray. Otherwise I have to power up just to take it out which often means aborting a boot-up. Is this A Bad Idea for deep and mysterious Linux reasons, or is it An OK Idea? If it's the latter could it go into the release?

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 12:51
by nic2109
ttuuxxx wrote:I just printed with abiword, Keep in mind I never used Linux printing before yesterday really, so this is all new to me, But on the other hand I'm pretty good a compiling and getting things to work, so feel confident :) Anyways How does Abiword print, the way I did it was create a PDF and saved it, then opened the pdf and printed it, when I tried 'Generic Postscript' Abiword Crashes, and when I ran it via command line, and tried it again I got this message
# abiword

** (abiword:9606): WARNING **: Can't g_module_open /usr/lib/libgnomeprint/2.18.2/modules/libgnomeprintcups.so

lpr: Error - no default destination available.
Broken pipe

So was the Generic Postscript always broken in Abiword ?
I'll look for a fix
ttuuxxx
@ttuuxxx I've just printed OK from Abiword with your CUPS packages. No intervention was required; I choose the 'Generic Postscript' printer and it went to the printer I set as Default in CUPS.

It "just worked" - praise be. :D

It would eliminate some confusion if the words 'Generic Postscript' could be replaced by 'Default CUPS Printer' (or something to that effect), but I have no idea if that's something that you can influence in the compilation, or if it's too deep down in the code to be accessible.

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 13:08
by ttuuxxx
nic2109 wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:I just printed with abiword, Keep in mind I never used Linux printing before yesterday really, so this is all new to me, But on the other hand I'm pretty good a compiling and getting things to work, so feel confident :) Anyways How does Abiword print, the way I did it was create a PDF and saved it, then opened the pdf and printed it, when I tried 'Generic Postscript' Abiword Crashes, and when I ran it via command line, and tried it again I got this message
# abiword

** (abiword:9606): WARNING **: Can't g_module_open /usr/lib/libgnomeprint/2.18.2/modules/libgnomeprintcups.so

lpr: Error - no default destination available.
Broken pipe

So was the Generic Postscript always broken in Abiword ?
I'll look for a fix
ttuuxxx
@ttuuxxx I've just printed OK from Abiword with your CUPS packages. No intervention was required; I choose the 'Generic Postscript' printer and it went to the printer I set as Default in CUPS.

It "just worked" - praise be. :D

It would eliminate some confusion if the words 'Generic Postscript' could be replaced by 'Default CUPS Printer' (or something to that effect), but I have no idea if that's something that you can influence in the compilation, or if it's too deep down in the code to be accessible.
yes nic I set the printer the way you described and it worked. :)
Great it all works then, cool
Time to get going on the packages then :) Thanks :wink:
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 13:08
by ttuuxxx
Hey WhoDo could you give me 24hrs before the end of the deadline, I'm working on cups issues, and size so far I've saved around 1.5MB compressed in Ghostscript alone. I'm sure I can get you to the 100MB mark, plus have other things working better, Cups, Icewm, and maybe tcl if I don't run out of time? well its up to you but we aren't in a rush even though I'm feeling it. Most the day I had to spend with my Wife because its Valentines Day, nice day for a deadline anyways, Its like having me in 2 places at once all day, lol
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 13:33
by aragon
nic2109 wrote:1. Has this problem been fixed? I still get it.
I checked my e-mail with Claws and got the mail, but I also got an error message saying "The Bogofilter plugin couldn't filter a message. The command `bogofilter -T -b` couldn't be run."
hi nic,

bogofilter seems not to be in (i looked at the packages list of a4). so install from the rep and run again...

aragon

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 13:43
by ttuuxxx
Hey nic I compiled libgnomeprint and libgnomecups , installed it, restarted abiword and Now I have 4 selections in the print section of abiword, How many do you have?
Also if you have less than 4,
first go to /usr/lib/libgnomeprint <-- delete folder
then install these 2 pets and restart abiword and see how many you have .
I'm not sure if I have the extra selections because I compiled the packages or because I did the cups setup the way you told me. But its strange the way the libsgnomeprint is setup by default on here because it also has the libsgnomecups in the same directory but when you compile them, they are in 2 directories and not one.
ttuuxxx