Lucid Puppy 5.2 feedback and bug reports

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#201 Post by playdayz »

Instant Update 001 for Lucid 5.2 FEB 5 2011

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... 52-001.pet

This is *not* a crucial bug-fix update because we simply have not found enough bugs to justify that. However it does contain a few nice enhancements.

=> PupControl 1.3 by radky starts with the Setup Icon on the desktop

=> Desksetup Icon Templates by 01micko to make it easy to adjust icon placement on Desktop

=> Quickpet 4.1 - the latest version by 01micko, updates the contents of Puppy Package Manager and SFS Get - There are a lot of nice new packages available - including both LibreOffice3 3.3 and OpenOffice 3.3 prepared by jim1911

=> gparted 0.5.1 - reverted because some people had trouble - if you want 0.6.2 it is in PPM

If you are already using PupComboPlus (which includes PupControl 1.3 and Desksetup) this will install right over it.
You can also install PupComboPlus over this update (LupuNews -> Fun tab).
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Can't start X

#202 Post by Maarcis »

I am running the Puppy 4.3.1 from a live cd now and wanted to switch to the Lucid Puppy 5.2. So I burned a CD, tested it on a desktop, it booted to a graphical screen - everything was working fine :)
But when I try to run it on my laptop it goes like "Starting X, specs in /etc/x11/xorg.conf ............"
and then
"Exited from X. Type "xwin [fvwm95|jwm]" to restart X ......."
"If X failed to start ...... 'xorgwizard'..." :?
I went through xorgwizard and tried different options, but in the end I still get the same message mentioned above. By the way xorgwizard recognizes the video card (ati mobility radeon x700).
I tried suggestion from http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/LupuNews/index4.html :
Problem starting Lucid Puppy. Lucid Puppy (Lupu) will boot to a graphical screen in almost all cases and from that screen you can make adjustments if they are needed or wanted. If it does not boot to a graphical screen, it might boot to a “prompt.

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Re: Can't start X

#203 Post by bigpup »

Maarcis wrote:when I try to run it on my laptop it goes like "Starting X, specs in /etc/x11/xorg.conf ............"
and then
"Exited from X. Type "xwin [fvwm95|jwm]" to restart X ......."
"If X failed to start ...... 'xorgwizard'..." :?
I went through xorgwizard and tried different options, but in the end I still get the same message mentioned above. By the way xorgwizard recognizes the video card (ati mobility radeon x700).

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The laptop is a 5 or 6 year old Acer Extensa 4100 (Intel Centrino, Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz, ATI Mobility Radeon X700 128MB, display resolution 1280x800, 512MB RAM, no internal HDD)
Try this:
Boot with the CD
Select F-2 when you see the boot screen.
Enter boot option:

puppy pfix=nox

...to stop the X server from trying to start.
After it boots up, At the prompt type:

xorgwizard

Choose Vesa driver with the appropriate screen resolution (if you don't know what to chose try the lowest possible resolution).
Select test
IT should test Ok.
If it does not test OK
Try a different resolution.
After that type:

xwin

If that works run Quickpet program
Drivers tab
Click here to test graphics card.
See what the recommended video driver is and install that driver from the driver tab in Quickpet.
Reboot.

gcmartin

Update to 5.2

#204 Post by gcmartin »

playdayz wrote:Instant Update 001 for Lucid 5.2 FEB 5 2011.....
I run a LiveCD. Will applying the update and its upgrades survive over a session-save reboot?

Thanks in advance.

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#205 Post by Lobster »

a few nice enhancements
Clicking on setup icon is now so much nicer :D
Thanks guys.
I was impressed that koffice (click on SFS in Quickpet) does not need KDE
and is excellent
Also don't think this is just for small kids
delightfully easy open office
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 528#456528
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Puppy Links Page http://www.smokey01.com/bruceb/puppy.html :D

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PupSnap Screen Capture

#206 Post by Tasgarth »

PupSnap Screen Capture :
Problem with PupSnap Screen Capture.(PPM updated)
An alert is displayed and... nothing :cry:
Mtpaint SnapShot is OK.
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Re: Can't start X

#207 Post by Maarcis »

bigpup wrote:
Choose Vesa driver with the appropriate screen resolution (if you don't know what to chose try the lowest possible resolution).
Select test
IT should test Ok.
If it does not test OK
Try a different resolution.
After that type:

xwin

If that works run Quickpet program
Drivers tab
Click here to test graphics card.
See what the recommended video driver is and install that driver from the driver tab in Quickpet.
Reboot.
Thanks bigpup! I did everything as you told and I'm now working from Lucid Puppy 5.2. Yay! :)
The only problem now is low resolution. I can't get nothing higher than 800x600.
I have tested graphics card and installed Xorg High (recommended driver) from Quickpet Drivers tab. I also have tried to install ATI driver but it doesn't support my graphics card. So now I'm stuck with Xorg High and resolution 800x600 (I tried to change it in Puppy Setup / Xorg Video Wizard) instead of 1280x800.
Should I modify xorg.conf? :roll:
Any ideas?

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Re: PupSnap Screen Capture

#208 Post by radky »

Tasgarth wrote:PupSnap Screen Capture :
Problem with PupSnap Screen Capture.(PPM updated)
An alert is displayed and... nothing :cry:
Mtpaint SnapShot is OK.
Hi Tasgarth,

Scrot and the imlib2 library are available as a single download on the PupSnap forum page, or you can go directly to the Scrot download.

Thanks

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cursor themes

#209 Post by amj »

Cursor Themes

System: Eee PC 900A, 1024x600 screen, Lucid Puppy 520

Problem: Once package 'Cursor_themes-1-Lucid.pet' has been installed, 'Desktop -> Desktop Settings -> Pcur' provides a list of available cursors. The instruction displayed is 'choose one you like, click OK'. The dialogue box is sufficently large that it does not fit onto a screen smaller than 768 depth. The OK button is at the bottom of the dialogue box and is consequently off the bottom of a smaller screen and connot be clicked.

Workaround: Plug in an external monitor with at least 768 screen depth.

Fix: One option would be to move the OK button to the top of the dialogue box (the options list already scrolls).

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Re: PupSnap Screen Capture

#210 Post by Jim1911 »

duplicate post

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Re: cursor themes

#211 Post by rjbrewer »

amj wrote: The dialogue box is sufficently large that it does not fit onto a screen smaller than 768 depth. The OK button is at the bottom of the dialogue box and is consequently off the bottom of a smaller screen and connot be clicked.
Alt > left click, can be used to move the window around.

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Re: cursor themes

#212 Post by amj »

rjbrewer wrote:Alt > left click, can be used to move the window around.
Thank you. Image

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#213 Post by gerry »

I posted above (EDIT- no I didn'nt, it was in the Official Release 5th Jan thread) about how:

On my Intel Celeron 600MHz machine, Lupu 520 runs unusably slowly. And...

On my wife's Intel P4 3GHz machine it stalls at the Personalisation stage.

So- I rechecked the MD5 for the downloaded iso: it's still ok. Then I burnt a new cd, using the slowest speed possible (8X). The new cd is just the same on the old machine, and on the P4 it boots, the Personalisation panel comes up, and it stalls. Down at the bottom right hand corner, nothing seems to have started except the clock.

I don't think it's a problem with the cd burning- I've done dozens over the last 4 years, for Puppies and other distros, and never had a problem. I've burnt several other cd's since the first 520 one, and they all work perfectly.

Very strange....

gerry
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PupSnap screen capture

#214 Post by Tasgarth »

radky wrote:
Scrot and the imlib2 library are available as a single download on the PupSnap forum page, or you can go directly to the Scrot download.
Now it's OK.
Thanks for the reply.

Perhaps would it be good to put 'scrot-0.8.pet' also in PPM ?

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Re: Can't start X

#215 Post by bigpup »

Maarcis wrote:Thanks bigpup! I did everything as you told and I'm now working from Lucid Puppy 5.2. Yay! :)
The only problem now is low resolution. I can't get nothing higher than 800x600.
I have tested graphics card and installed Xorg High (recommended driver) from Quickpet Drivers tab. I also have tried to install ATI driver but it doesn't support my graphics card. So now I'm stuck with Xorg High and resolution 800x600 (I tried to change it in Puppy Setup / Xorg Video Wizard) instead of 1280x800.
Should I modify xorg.conf? :roll:
Any ideas?
Go back to Setup -> Xorg Video Wizard->xorgwizard.
Select probe.
At resolution selection
If you do not see the resolution you want select more
Just be careful and do not pick some wild setting. Some settings will not work on your monitor.
Select test
If it does not test OK try another setting.

Note:
Test results will show using Vesa driver. That is OK. Xorg-high is a Vesa driver with extra enhancements.

After the test you can select Tweak to adjust refresh rate.
Select Finish

To see if you are really using the xorg-high driver
Run hardware info menu->system->system status and config->Hardinfo->Display
Look at OpenGL info
Should see MESA...

If OpenGL info is blank. You will need to remove any drivers you installed and only have Xorg-high driver installed. Rerun xorgwizard and probe should select xorg-high driver.
Verify with Hardinfo.
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Re: Can't start X

#216 Post by Maarcis »

bigpup wrote:Go back to Setup -> Xorg Video Wizard->xorgwizard.
Select probe.
At resolution selection
If you do not see the resolution you want select more
Just be careful and do not pick some wild setting. Some settings will not work on your monitor.
Select test
If it does not test OK try another setting.
Note:
Test results will show using Vesa driver. That is OK. Xorg-high is a Vesa driver with extra enhancements.
After the test you can select Tweak to adjust refresh rate.
Select Finish
To see if you are really using the xorg-high driver
Run hardware info menu->system->system status and config->Hardinfo->Display
Look at OpenGL info
Should see MESA...
Thanks again bigpup - I have tried everything you wrote but with no luck.
When in xorgwizard the only driver that tests OK is the vesa and highest resolution that tests OK is 800x600. Everything else fails the test.
And yes, OpenGL info looks just like in your picture.

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LibreOffice3 3.3

#217 Post by mories »

playdayz wrote:Instant Update 001 for Lucid 5.2 FEB 5 2011

=> Quickpet 4.1 - the latest version by 01micko, updates the contents of Puppy Package Manager and SFS Get - There are a lot of nice new packages available - including both LibreOffice3 3.3 and OpenOffice 3.3 prepared by jim1911
.
Can't get
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... l_sfs4.sfs

403 - Forbidden

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Re: Can't start X

#218 Post by bigpup »

Maarcis wrote:Thanks again bigpup - I have tried everything you wrote but with no luck. When in xorgwizard the only driver that tests OK is the vesa and highest resolution that tests OK is 800x600. Everything else fails the test.
And yes, OpenGL info looks just like in your picture.
What resolution do you want?
Do you get it with Puppy 4.3.1?

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Re: Can't start X

#219 Post by Maarcis »

bigpup wrote:What resolution do you want?
Do you get it with Puppy 4.3.1?
I just want 1280x800 (native resolution).
Yes I get it with Puppy 4.3.1 with no problem at all :?
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#220 Post by bones01 »

swiatmar wrote:@ Bones01:
Hi all,

I've found an intriguing problem with wbar. I d/led wbar from PPM a while ago and got everything working, but whenever I start the computer, I get a double wbar. If I go to desktop > desktop settings > wbar setup and click 'start', then one of them disappears.
I have no idea if it helps but I know that I had a similar problem.
Check .xinitrc if you have there an entrance about wbar at the end.
The lucid package of wbar has also the wbar setup option it creates a starter in /root/Startup- wstart
So then you have a double entrance and wbar starts double.......
Thanks Swiatmar, I had a look at .xinitrc but didn't have a double. However, if I put the # mark in front of that line, and restart X server, the double one has gone and the one I want is there. Seems a bit odd to me, but it seems to work.

Thanks for your help. It's always good to be on the forum.

Bones
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