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Posted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 02:31
by rcrsn51
Bump
rcrsn51 wrote:Perhaps some other Lupu testers can comment on this situation. If you have a printer attached to your Lupu machine and have declared it sharable (both in the printer settings and in the Server settings) is it visible to other machines on your network?

Posted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 04:58
by 01micko
rcrsn51 wrote:Bump
rcrsn51 wrote:Perhaps some other Lupu testers can comment on this situation. If you have a printer attached to your Lupu machine and have declared it sharable (both in the printer settings and in the Server settings) is it visible to other machines on your network?
Well, I was printing 509 to 509 before the release, and previous versions, over wireless from my P3 to my main machine, no problem, will test the current status today, should be fine I think. On the P3 I could state any printer, didn't matter, just worked.

Cheers

Iron in Lucid Puppy 5.1

Posted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 10:37
by simes
playdayz wrote:
Hi, I have installed 5.1 (very nice - great work, everybody) but cannot get Google Chrome to work.
Hi Simes, Here is a pet of Iron. I had forgotten how much I liked it--it seems very snappy. The p2 version is not needed anymore, they say, because this version will run with p3. (That confused me too, but I hope it works.)

http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/I ... -Lucid.pet
Many thanks playdayz, for both your replies. I wasn't aware of Iron until now. Your PET installs with no problems and it works! There's all the speed (more, probably) and ease-of-use of Chrome (that's why I like Chrome) without Google's intrusiveness. I appreciate your help.

Posted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 12:31
by gortonc
sinc, Thanks! I will give it a try and let you all know how it works.

Printer sharing

Posted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 12:57
by kevin bowers
OK, I lied again, I can't let this one rest.

While I deeply appreciate all the high-powered help on this, I'm very much afraid the problem is simply my unique hardware. Not that there's anything wrong with that but you serious developers can't be expected to take so much time on one wierd configuration.

That being said, I no longer believe I have a router problem. I just did a fresh full install on a new HD and still had problems sharing printers. However it seems that the only thing not working is the automatic finding of network printers. It seems that I can manually navigate to the desktop's built-in CUPS web interface from the netbook and find the printers there, and even print a test page. But if I want to actually print from an application I need to manually install the network printer to the netbook's localhost and make very sure I include the full IP address of the printer including the exact printer name as used by the host computer in the "connection" line. For this system it looks like:
http://192.168.2.3:631/printers/HP_DESKJET_895C
I don't know if it was necessary but I made sure the printer name, description, and location fields matched the desktop's also. More testing is needed, but CUPS did install the printer to the localhost and does not return errors like "remote printer does not exist" anymore. I have a lot of work to do on the installation yet, I just got it going last night, but it looks good so far. Of course while I was installing update 2, update 3 was being uploaded! The pace of development of this Puppy is unreal.

Thanks to all!

Posted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 13:32
by rcrsn51
That's good news. It sounds like this is some kind of timing issue on your network. The CUPS server is not advertising its printer fast enough for the CUPS client to detect it. But it's odd that it worked with the old CUPS.

In any case, your solution of installing the printer manually may be helpful to other users.

It would interesting to know if the CUPS 1.3.11 in Quirky is better. You could just boot your server machine off the Live CD to test it.

Posted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 15:23
by rjbrewer
Still having problems with 5.1 dropping internet connection
while online.

Edit;

Switched to Pwireless2 and it seems to be holding up well.

Posted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 21:23
by 01micko
01micko wrote:
rcrsn51 wrote:Bump
rcrsn51 wrote:Perhaps some other Lupu testers can comment on this situation. If you have a printer attached to your Lupu machine and have declared it sharable (both in the printer settings and in the Server settings) is it visible to other machines on your network?
Well, I was printing 509 to 509 before the release, and previous versions, over wireless from my P3 to my main machine, no problem, will test the current status today, should be fine I think. On the P3 I could state any printer, didn't matter, just worked.

Cheers
Hmmmm......

In 5.1 it was a fail :cry: .. and I tried this tip from vovchik too, should have worked :? (Was late at night when I tried though, will take another look today).

Cheers

Posted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 21:37
by rcrsn51
01micko wrote:In 5.1 it was a fail
When you are testing this, remember that you don't need to look in Find New Printers. Go directly to the Printers section.

This does work for me in 5.1. But at the moment, I am the only verified success.

Printer sharing

Posted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 21:40
by kevin bowers
rcrsn51,

Interesting that you should cite network timing as the possible culprit. That is what turned out to be the problem with my system(s) and Quickpet, as far as I know only shared by scsijon. It still amazes me that 01micko found time to make a patch for that after only two known complaints. Anyway I had been blaming the satellite internet provider for that, as scsijon and I are both on satellite, but this would have to be the router as it's an infranet problem. It's an inexpensive unit, not at all designed (or advertised) for commercial or heavy use, but it's been rock-solid for over a year after I fried three other units in two months. OK, I can't blame Cisco Systems for a near-miss lightning strike. But the Belkin has been very reliable.

I'm downloading Quirky1.2 as I type, I'll report back in the next day or so.

Re: 'Missing Dependencies' in Lucid Puppy after full install

Posted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 21:41
by 01micko
dragon-the-cat wrote: I'm sorry, but I've had the same experience after the installation of the official release of Lucid Puppy 5.1 on my hd.
After the installation-process has done (no .pets etc.) a message was shown with missing dependencies and the hint to write them on a sheet of paper to check it out later.
Don't laugh, but I have really done this: :arrow:

Code: Select all

PKG-Type: Missing Dependencies
GTK: gtk +12, gdkxft, gdk_pixbuf10, glib 12
Tcl/TK: tk, tcl, tix, uri, tktable, tablelist, tile, trf, combobox, gnocl, img
Qt: qt
xlib: imlib, libxaw95_DEP4
Multimedia: speex, libosip2, cdrdao, sox
Misc: libidn, figzdev, pstoedit, mtools
As a resume I have to say, that Lucid Puppy is a really great release with impressing functionality, small size, speed and a well and hard working development team. I think, this famous work is not a result of a 'crusade' against bug-reporters - we can only give hints and report our experience with this release - or not, Micko? :wink:

No offense, I really like Puppy Linux. That's the reason, why I take the time to write this - now: GREETZ @all
So long - 8)
* dragon-the-cat *
Ahem...

Slight misunderstanding with the quote.. however, if you had been through this thread you'd have found it's a known bug and the dependencies are not needed. You'd have not needed to take the time to write if you had have read. (Same can be said for me too I guess, but what I said in bold still stands).

Cheers

Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 07:28
by piratesmack
Hmm... still no reply.
I'll post one more time just in case it was missed.

In Puppy 5.1, the hwclock is being interpreted as localtime even when you set the hwclock type to utc:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 415#443415

Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 07:38
by 01micko
piratesmack wrote:In Puppy 5.1, the hwclock is being interpreted as localtime even when you set the hwclock type to utc:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 415#443415
Duly noted and you are not the only one to report this issue :wink:

Thanks

Cheers

Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 07:42
by piratesmack
01micko wrote:
piratesmack wrote:In Puppy 5.1, the hwclock is being interpreted as localtime even when you set the hwclock type to utc:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 415#443415
Duly noted and you are not the only one to report this issue :wink:

Thanks

Cheers
Oh my bad. I didn't realize this was already reported

Thanks

Printer sharing

Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 13:08
by kevin bowers
rcrsn51, 01micko,

Booted my desktop to Quirky 1.2. Network and CUPS working fine although the ATI video doesn't agree with the Radeon driver. My little netbook running 5.1 still will not automatically find the shared printer.

All else seems well with the machines, Luci seems stable and happy in both boxes. I had a terrible time getting the wireless up with this last install but sheer stubborn cussed perseverance seems to have done it, it's now stable and persistent.

Can't say it enough: thanks again for the Herculean effort!

Printer sharing

Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 16:47
by kevin bowers
OOPS!

Apologies, guys, I forgot to set the host to share its printers!

Once I did that I have the automatic printer location and sharing between the Quirky host (CUPS 1.3.11) and the Luci netbook (5.1, CUPS 1.4.3).

A man my age should know better than to test computer configurations late at night, especially when he's not feeling well.

Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 16:53
by rcrsn51
But it still doesn't work when Lupu and CUPS 1.4.3 is the server?

Re: Printer sharing

Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 17:23
by 8-bit
[quote="kevin bowers"]rcrsn51, 01micko,

Booted my desktop to Quirky 1.2. Network and CUPS working fine although the ATI video doesn't agree with the Radeon driver. My little netbook running 5.1 still will not automatically find the shared printer.

/quote]

Did you set up the firewall when you installed Puppy on both PCs?
It will interfere with printer sharing.
Also, make sure you have the "Share this printer box checked as will as network sharing of the printer.

Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 18:12
by edoc
The Firewall setup appears in two places but neither offers an uninstall option.

Puppy Package Manager does not appear to recognize the Firewall and therefore does not offer an option to uninstall.

Perhaps this should be added to both of the pop-up menus for Firewall (in Setup and Internet) as well as Puppy Package Manager?

Or is the best way to uninstall to use the "Builtin Package Remover" -- which is reportedly in Menu-Utility of Quirky 1.2?

If so, is there a PET to add "Builtin Package Remover" to Lucid 5.1, please?

Posted: Sat 21 Aug 2010, 18:45
by rcrsn51
You don't need to uninstall the firewall program - you just want to disable it. One method is to open the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local and comment out the lines that start the firewall.