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Posted: Tue 13 Jan 2015, 21:15
by autumnleaves
Thanks again. I have probably downloaded the Skype and Dropbox from their respective websites.

Dropbox 1.6.2_i386
Skype ubuntu lucid 4.3.0.37

I will try reinstalling via Quick.

Lightworks site mentions problem with generic video drivers, so I thought it best to check there first.

My other laptop with Racy does have the intel driver installed, but it's not the same chipset.

Posted: Tue 13 Jan 2015, 21:33
by autumnleaves
Brilliant! Skype and Dropbox now working. Lightworks still dead.

Posted: Wed 14 Jan 2015, 09:30
by 666philb
can you post you /var/log/xorg.0.log after trying the new xorg.conf.

if you rename it to xorg.0.log.gz it can then be added to the post as an attachment

Posted: Wed 14 Jan 2015, 16:32
by autumnleaves
I hope you can learn something from it. Thanks.

Posted: Wed 14 Jan 2015, 17:03
by 666philb
i visited the lightworks site and can only see a 64bit.deb for linux?
if you've installed that it won't work on 32bit operating systems! or is there a 32bit version?

Posted: Wed 14 Jan 2015, 23:41
by autumnleaves
Apparently there is no 32 bit Lightworks for Linux. But I had always assumed Puppy was 64 bit, so the mistake is mine, I guess, and there will be no editing on this laptop. Sorry for the confusion.
Meanwhile, is the accelerated Intel driver now being loaded?

Posted: Wed 14 Jan 2015, 23:49
by autumnleaves
PS. Will there be a 64 bit TahrPup?

Posted: Thu 15 Jan 2015, 06:40
by bigpup
autumnleaves wrote:PS. Will there be a 64 bit TahrPup?
It is in development, but it is still alpha quality.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=96748

There are some other versions of Puppy that are 64bit.
Look in the Puppy projects section of this forum.

Some you will see are still in alpha or beta status and still being developed.

Fatdog64 is the one that is well developed and the main Puppy 64bit version.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91937

64 bit is kind of a new thing for Puppy.
Has not been much of a need, for support, until recently.

Posted: Thu 15 Jan 2015, 07:08
by chillinfart
Have you tried this?
Troubleshooting
SNA issues

From man 4 intel:

There are a couple of backends available for accelerating the DDX. "UXA" (Unified Acceleration Architecture) is the mature backend that was introduced to support the GEM driver model. It is in the process of being superseded by "SNA" (Sandybridge's New Acceleration). Until that process is complete, the ability to choose which backend to use remains for backwards compatibility.

SNA is the default acceleration method in xf86-video-intel. If you are experience issues with SNA, try using UXA instead, which can be done by creating an X configuration file containing the following:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf

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Section "Device"
   Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
   Driver      "intel"
   Option      "AccelMethod"  "uxa"
EndSection
Glamor can be used instead:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf

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Section "Device"
   Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
   Driver      "intel"
   Option      "AccelMethod"  "glamor"
EndSection
Source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_graphics

Posted: Thu 15 Jan 2015, 20:56
by autumnleaves
Thanks for all the help. I may look into the fatdog, but it is not vital that I be able to edit video right now, so that could wait a while. I have tried the extra file for UXA but do not notice any difference. Wizard still shows modesetting for the video.

Posted: Fri 16 Jan 2015, 10:22
by 666philb
the wizard will always show modesetting as the kernel picks the driver in the newer kernels.

the correct driver is loaded, it's just that you may not be getting full acceleration
from your xorg.0.log (lines 232-235)

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[    22.613] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
[    22.613] (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[    22.672] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized swrast
[    22.672] (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0
glxgears runs so you should have direct rendering, but just slower than dri2, check with

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glxinfo | grep direct
should say direct rendering: Yes

try running google earth .... does it fire up and perform ok?
also check your /var/log/xorg.0.log after trying chillinfarts xorg.conf and see if dri2 is loading. you could also try the one i posted again but remove the "Option "DRI" "True"" line

Posted: Sat 17 Jan 2015, 03:19
by autumnleaves
It does show yes for direct rendering. However, Earth is too slow to even try to use. Conversely, on my much older HP Probook with Tahrpup Earth fires up in no time and is a breeze to use.
I tried glamor modesetting without any apparent result.

Posted: Tue 20 Jan 2015, 13:48
by autumnleaves
Thank you for your efforts on my behalf, but we seem to be getting nowhere. Unfortunately it appears that the screen does not support DRI2, and whatever driver is being used cannot handle any advanced graphics. Will I encounter the same problem with other versions of Puppy and even other flavours of Linux?

Posted: Tue 20 Jan 2015, 14:16
by 666philb
if you find a puppy (or other linux) that works ...try using its xorg.conf in tahrpup

Posted: Tue 20 Jan 2015, 18:34
by autumnleaves
I tried running Racy 5.5 which loaded with the intel driver, but the xorg.conf comments out the Device section with a note to the effect that the processor would be recognized automatically (or something to that effect). Using this Xorg.conf, I tried starting Earth, but it did not load and the mouse froze. On subsequent boots with the same file the mouse remained frozen.
Please keep me informed of any developments as I really like the flexibility of Tahr, but would naturally like to have a working 64 bit version.Thanks

Posted: Tue 20 Jan 2015, 20:09
by Semme
I've got an Intel with three times your FPS and can't run Earth. Your best bet's a new card.

Posted: Tue 20 Jan 2015, 20:13
by autumnleaves
It's a portable, not a desktop. I tried installing FatDog but it does not boot. So I am going to try Mint and see how I fare with that.

Posted: Wed 21 Jan 2015, 14:53
by autumnleaves
Further development: Puppy Precise does load the Intel driver (which requieres KMS). Is it possible KMS is the source of the blockage with Tahr?