(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

OnAirPad wrote: Native Puppy looks like a dogs breakfast, its amateurish, menus are cluttered, stuffed full of incomprehensible cr#p, lacking structure, and I have to say I hate that stupid dog icon.

Entirely possible to have less cluttered menus, etc. in Puppy.........

Lots of things are possible.

The look of puppy is something I personally am very happy with, my needs in computing are not bound by the wank the OS throws at hardware, Vista and forward are heavily dependant on Video performance, bulk of RAM and CPU to support that wank, (infact I don't miss the constant thrashing either!) an OS for me is something that needs to stay out of the way as much as possible, and as we saw with Win9x and beyond a sub set was written (Direct X) to give programs direct access to hardware to give the performance DOS offered, so code piled on code piled on code, piled on errors piled on BSOD's ... what puppy offers is good code, code that performs and is stable, that stays out of the way, that is robust and sweet that runs on hardware that XP and later struggle on or on Large RAM machines with high performance, in fact Puppy is my Win2k, it is the first light OS I've been happy with since, I'm not trying to start a flame war because you want a flashy looking OS, that's your choice, but Puppy may not be what you want if you want wanky flash.

James C,

That's a very nice looking JWM theme you have there. But what's even more interesting to me is how have set up your menu. Can I ask how you implemented this? If possible, I would like to do something similiar, for a future release.

Tman wrote:James C,

That's a very nice looking JWM theme you have there. But what's even more interesting to me is how have set up your menu. Can I ask how you implemented this? If possible, I would like to do something similiar, for a future release.

I can take no credit for that........ that is the work of zigbert .See here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#402882

and
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#143732

The above screenies are from a version of 431 Zigbert released (with only a few minor tweaks)....thread is
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#400085

prior version
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#396311


That should be enough to get you started.......

HTH.

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FoxyRoxyLinux

Pure Debian Linux (squeeze) with the heart and spirit of a Puppy.

Have a peek (and poke around the forum) ... you may be surprised.

The real world (real life) has stalled things for a few months, although life is returning to normal.
I would really appreciate some help from anyone who really knows *nix

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Cheers, Brenton

@OnAirPad

Re: Puppy - A Dog's Breakfast
If your desktop really looks like this.......you are probably doing something wrong!

James C wrote:
I can take no credit for that........ that is the work of zigbert .See here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#402882

and
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#143732

The above screenies are from a version of 431 Zigbert released (with only a few minor tweaks)....thread is
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#400085

prior version
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 872#396311


That should be enough to get you started.......

HTH.

Thanks very much for the links, James C.
I got into Puppy Linux when Lucid was still new, and haven't played much with any of the Puppy4 versions. But I will definately be taking a look at DudE and Stardust Pup.

Underlying this discussion the real problem surfaces.

Since puppy 4 series (and before) so many great examples have made (puplets) showing what is possible to achieve with puppy. But none of this has materialized in mainstream.

And.. To be blunt ... That is because the top management doesn't care. Barry is a technology man, and not a marketting man.

I've tried several times over the past years to productize puppy, but no luck. There is drive in the community, but it is not ackowledged, and developers can only choose to fork. Macpup, lighthouse, Lxpup, Carolina, Saluki, etc...

ETP wrote:@OnAirPad

Re: Puppy - A Dog's Breakfast
If your desktop really looks like this.......you are probably doing something wrong!

All that sugar.
I will have to give Puppy up, I'm diabetic.
JB

ETP wrote:@OnAirPad

Re: Puppy - A Dog's Breakfast
If your desktop really looks like this.......you are probably doing something wrong!

Going to make the image available please?

If you haven't tried x-precise yet I highly recommend it. It has the size of puppy, USB-drive capable, puppy 5.7.1 based, ubuntu repo enabled and the polish of Linux Mint.

NEW IMPROVED!

Hi kooliepup,

Nice work and by sheer coincidence I may just have the ideal script to go with it:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 648#722648

Thats my breakfast today :

But Bacon'n'Eggs looks good too !!

Karl; The breakfast of champions.

I think Volhout hit it on the head again ( page 2 of this thread ).
Lots of great ideas and code has slipped through Puppy`s paws ( pun...).

I`ve suggested a community effort to create a repository of it, for all variant builders to use.
.

@ETP,

I like that.

It's a pity that the Aussie accent sounds like a Brit with a broom up his arse.

Would be better if it didn't rely on being online, 'tho.

Cheers.

kooliepup wrote:@ETP,

I like that.

It's a pity that the Aussie accent sounds like a Brit with a broom up his arse.

Would be better if it didn't rely on being online, 'tho.

Cheers.

Good morning kooliepup,
I agree that the Australian accent sounds most peculiar. You are probably better sticking with the “English butler

I dunno, my setup looks pretty clean. But ultimately I care about performance and reliability so any changes I make to the way a setup looks are based on pride and ego. I have old machines and it's more important that they work well and keep working well.

Puppy is often remastered to fit local taste or needs, language but not only.
Our french Puppies are not only a translation, but a new look.
Menus are changed, and we use to add some application to keep our french dogs still happy to taste some stuff prepared by our cordons bleus.
You like it or you hate it, but taste it
Triton by petihar, for nice Cloud apps.
And for original desktop, as JWM is boring some of you, is provided by ToOpPy 2.1. Caution : new means that you will have to learn how it works, but you should not be frightened by 2PDE (or stay with JWM!)
UK topic ToOpPY

starhawk wrote:I agree. JWM looks like Win95. Theme it and it looks like Win98SE with the Plus Pack... and I'm being kind.

Yeah the icons are a little nicer and there's plenty of color to be had... but it still looks, well, old. I don't know how much of that is stripped-out flashy bits from JWM, and how much of that is the Puppy-devs-are-not-necessarily-artistic quotient...

Even my mother thinks that Puppy looks like it's from the mid 1990s. She uses WinXP right now, with the "Classic" Theme (that really DOES look like Win98 -- she likes it -- I have NO idea why)...!

Definitely an issue here.

i was very impressed with the way tahr looks, vs the way puppy looked 10 years ago. part of it is the (fantastic) icons, jwm will only get you so far in terms of looks. but then i use icewm. why? it has all the functionality i need, and it doesnt waste resources that could go to programs. themes with gradients (possible in jwm) make a large difference.