Many problems using, remastering Puppy 4.3.1

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Kogije
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#21 Post by Kogije »

As Mentioned up front, I need the Video Driver from the older kernel so newer puppies don't really work

Ran it from Terminal, Error Loading Shared Libraries

libdbus-1.so.3

Where do I get this?

just found libdbus-1.so.3.4.0

added it to /usr/lib

then did this in Terminal
ln -sf ./libdbus-1.so.3.4.0 ./libdbus-1.so.3

That fixed it

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#22 Post by Makoto »

What video driver do you need (for which video hardware)? A package might be available for a more recent version of Puppy (compiled against a newer kernel).

Actually, I would have recommended installing a complete dbus package - never know when something might need more than just that one lib. :)
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Broken Again

#23 Post by Kogije »

Its Nividia Riva TNT 2 32MB card

Firefox just did an update and now its back to not working

it says Illegal Instruction

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#24 Post by linuxcbon »

Kogije wrote:As Mentioned up front, I need the Video Driver from the older kernel so newer puppies don't really work
Did you try the new ones ? Which driver does work and which doesnt ? New kernel should work too. You mean video drivers, this has nothing to do with kernel.

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Yes

#25 Post by Kogije »

I tried a few newer Puppy releases

Anything after 5.11 wont install
5.11 needed a Video Driver so could not play video faster than 1 frame per second
4.3.1 had the driver --> NVIDIA-71.86.11-k2.6.30.5-1.pet

which was built for K2.6.30.5 and lower

it is not available after that and does not work in 5.11

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Firefox

#26 Post by Kogije »

It keeps trying to update to 19.0.2

It is currently working with 5.02b

I tried updating to 16.0

Same problem as with 19.0.2
Illegal Instruction

not sure what to do now

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#27 Post by linuxcbon »

Try racy 5.5 and tell what error messages. Explain us what you are doing step by step, because it is unclear what you do and what you install or not. Can you explain all, thanks.

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#28 Post by Karl Godt »

Same problem as with 19.0.2
Illegal Instruction
It might be that the K6 CPU is the problem here. These precompiled firefoxes need a feature that K6 doesn't have, but K7 has .

The browser than needs to be recompiled for that special architecture. Navigate somewhere on the mozilla ftp site to find the folder with sources and compile it. Probably seamonkey version-2 would be of interest . Firefox source is some 70mb - as large as the kernel - and kernels take 2 hours to compile on a recent 2GHz machine. And I don't think that the latest versions are so big because the programmers have added code to backport it to support P-I and similar.

And the common nv driver worked for me, dunno why you or your brother need on that old gear something special.
Really , you managed to gain kernel source, devx and compile the nvidia driver and are not capable to extract a simple .tar.* ??

Looks that you need some very old Puppy like 4.0 to run on that machine.

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Racy 5.5

#29 Post by Kogije »

Racy 5.5 will not install, Kernel Panic during boot
Also
Anything higher than K2.6.30.5 does not have a working Video Driver
the Video Driver I need that works for Puppy is NVIDIA-71.86.11-k2.6.30.5-1

Note the k2.6.30.5 on it, that means it was built for Kernel 2.6.30.5

Anything after that Kernel will not run the Video Driver
If I install it on a later Kernel it just doesn't boot X unless it is in Vesa Mode
or using Dummy driver

Later Drivers do not support the Video Card (Nvidia Riva TNT 2)
and I need to use a working Driver for it.

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Karl Godt

#30 Post by Kogije »

Puppy is new to me, I'm more familiar with programing than I am with programs.
Terminal commands are also a bit different than what I'm use to (from Ubuntu and Lucid Puppy 5.11) in this version of Puppy (4.3.1)

This install is almost fixed up where I want it
Firefox 5.02b is a bit slower than the newer versions but as long as I don't update it, it works.
I also got Flash working in it!
I'm thinking what I need to do is either disable the update or update Firefox to something a bit newer that recognizes the system limits.
From what I understand, some of the Newer Builds of Firefox wont run on Puppy 4.3.1 because of the older Kernel.
I think this may be the case with Firefox 16.0 and 19.0.2.
Apparently I need to stay below Firefox 8 in order to keep Flash Working.
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Re: Yes

#31 Post by linuxcbon »

Racy 5.5 has the 3.0.66 Linux kernel.
There is a NVIDIA pet for it :
See http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84729

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Nvidia pet

#32 Post by Kogije »

that pet doesn't include the driver I need

http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?pu ... -cards.txt

this lists all the Nvidia pets for Puppy and what cards they support.

Riva TNT 2 is at the Bottom

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Re: Nvidia pet

#33 Post by linuxcbon »

I see, so what are the remaining problems now ?

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#34 Post by Kogije »

I get a error during startup while loading kernel modules
udevd-event
unable to create db link
/dev/.udev/db/\x2fdevices\x2fvirtual\x2fmisc\x2ffuse
Stale NFS file

the problem may be from /tmp/bootcnt.txt ... That's not it

Im also getting another device error like that for the Printer (which I haven't connected one yet.)

The Volume Control Icon is Missing
I would like to get the Icon back.
Note: The Volume Control is running, its just the Icon is missing.
I think it's an issue with JWM

and I would like to get Firefox updated to 7.X (anything below 8)
and maybe disable updates on it
or just forget updating it and disable the updates for it

and I'm not sure how to mount a .cue file with a .iso (it's mixed media and won't mount as just an ISO without the .cue)

That's about it
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#35 Post by linuxcbon »

- Volume icon is launched from /root/Startup/retrovol_tray
- Firefox, this one is for precise, maybe it works for you ? http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_pa ... 686-up.pet

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Firefox

#36 Post by Kogije »

Firefox 16 and up doesn't work, I tried everything I could find from 16 to 19.02
Firefox 8 works but not with Flash
I need to find one lower than that

The Volume Control is running, but the Icon isn't there
I think its an issue with JWM

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Re: Firefox

#37 Post by linuxcbon »

- for firefox I dont know, I use the seamonkey found originally
- For volume icon, Try from menu->shutdown->restart jwm

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did that

#38 Post by Kogije »

Already tried that
The icon went away the first time I changed themes

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WINE

#39 Post by Kogije »

WINE seems to be missing /lib/libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.7)

Fixed the missing libraries
still need to fix WINE up to run stuff

Now WINE has problems


Failed to connect to the mount manager.

No Audio device connected

just ran another pfix=purge and Puppy crashed
Kernel Panic

Time to try LighthousePup-4.43-Gu2.iso
if this doesn't Work then I'm switching to Ubuntu

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Re: WINE

#40 Post by green_dome »

Kogije wrote:WINE seems to be missing /lib/libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.7)

Fixed the missing libraries
still need to fix WINE up to run stuff

Now WINE has problems


Failed to connect to the mount manager.

No Audio device connected

just ran another pfix=purge and Puppy crashed
Kernel Panic

Time to try LighthousePup-4.43-Gu2.iso
if this doesn't Work then I'm switching to Ubuntu
It appears the WINE package you installed was compiled in a newer puppy with glibc 2.7.
I compile wine packages in puppy 4.3.1. (glibc 2.6.1) [link]
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