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Posted: Sat 05 May 2012, 05:22
by jim3630
FATSlacko frugal install pfix=ram to ext4 hdd on dual p6100 hp laptop. broadcom wifi auto-detected on wan0 by sns and connection made without issue. display changed with first run xorgwizard, ppm updated, get flash got without issue. libreoffice quick like the rest of the system. savefile ext4 made rebooted with persistence. mesa installed via slickpet and glxgears very smooth. resting state after reboot very low ram usage.

looks very nice. thanks for the work!

Posted: Sat 05 May 2012, 18:01
by emil
This sounds very interesting - why not make it an official variant. This would be the standard configuration for many people (Libre Office, VLC).
greetings and thanks for all the work - emil

Posted: Sun 06 May 2012, 19:44
by gcmartin
Getting Started using FATSLACKO's LAN Sharing subsystem. See here!
This easy guide helps anyone to get started.

Here to help

Some early feedback

Posted: Mon 07 May 2012, 15:18
by Volhout
01micko,

First of all, this is a good decision, to integrate the packages that everybody would install if they really want to use the distro. Use it as a W*ND*WS replacement.

I currently run from SD card on a eeePC 1001HA (1.6GHz N270 with i945 graphics and RT3090 wireless, 1Gbyte RAM).

2 first observations.

- After I install on SD card, select Frisbee for network connection, I cannot see any wireless networks. The problem lies in the fact that frisbee uses a white "paper" and draws text with white "ink". I detected this because my environment has many wireless access points, and I saw the scroll bar schrink in size.... After shutdown-restart this is fixed (save file is created).

- It is very nice that Libre Office is integrated. But the file extensions are not detected (created a presentation, saved in .odp format (teh defautl libre office format). But the file is not recognized as a Lbre Office format. Rightclick, Open With ... works. Maybe it is possible to support at least the default formats for libreoffice ????

All in all everything looks smooth (I had good experiences with 5.3.2.7, so I hoped it was not broken in final...). Will continue to work with this version unless I hit some major bug. This is a keeper .....


Regards,

Volhout

Very pleased!

Posted: Mon 07 May 2012, 18:42
by maddog
I installed FatSlacko on a test box (can't remember the stats of the machine and I'm at work right now). Very pleased with this distro and saw no problems. I hope to see it continued as the only thing I needed to install was Firefox 12.

Very good work here! :)

--Ray.

Re: Some early feedback

Posted: Mon 07 May 2012, 21:02
by 01micko
Volhout wrote: - It is very nice that Libre Office is integrated. But the file extensions are not detected (created a presentation, saved in .odp format (teh defautl libre office format). But the file is not recognized as a Lbre Office format. Rightclick, Open With ... works. Maybe it is possible to support at least the default formats for libreoffice ????
Yes, sorry, I thought I had the odp mime-type in there.

This patch fixes it.
Thanks for report.

odp

Posted: Tue 08 May 2012, 09:52
by Volhout
Thanks 01micko, that fixed it.

Posted: Tue 08 May 2012, 14:12
by Eyes-Only
Just curious Micko: What's the Qt version? 4. what? I ask because I'm wondering whether or not I could use this as a testbed for pemasu's RazorQT's desktop environment - which requires Qt-4.8.0 if I remember correctly.

Thanks for letting me know! :)

Good luck with this "puplet" my Puppian Friend!

Cheers/Amicalement,

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge d'Acadie"

Posted: Tue 08 May 2012, 21:16
by 01micko
Ah jimmi.. it's 4.7.3 sorry. Outa luck then eh?

I will be compiling some more qt apps down the track, maybe even qt-4.8, but probably not until Slackware goes 14 or whatever number is next.

Cheers

Posted: Wed 09 May 2012, 12:53
by Eyes-Only
Thanks Mick! I thought it might be worth a shot at least. lol! ;)

( Dang it... I had a long reply here and lost it when clicking around! lol! That'll teach me! )

Cheers Mick!

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"

Posted: Fri 11 May 2012, 00:33
by gcmartin
But, I wasn't sure if I THANKED YOU for adding IPSCAN (AngryIP) to the PPM. It really is a useful tool for any of us LAN users..

Maybe next release will have it in the system's Menu>Network>AngryIP.

This is a very forward-thinking distro. Impressive.

glxgears

Posted: Fri 11 May 2012, 06:59
by Volhout
I saw in the first post mesa was mentioned. Could not confirm.

When I check glxgears, it gives an error "I couldn't get a RGB double buffered visual". Under HW info, OpenGL is "unknown".
Running on eeePC (i945 video)
If I run Slacko 5.3.3, and install mesa package, OpenGL works.
Not on FatSlacko.

Any idea ?

Volhout

Re: glxgears

Posted: Fri 11 May 2012, 07:15
by 01micko
Volhout wrote:I saw in the first post mesa was mentioned. Could not confirm.

When I check glxgears, it gives an error "I couldn't get a RGB double buffered visual". Under HW info, OpenGL is "unknown".
Running on eeePC (i945 video)
If I run Slacko 5.3.3, and install mesa package, OpenGL works.
Not on FatSlacko.

Any idea ?

Volhout
yes, wrong xorg.conf, my fault. You need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf @ line 32 put # symbol at the beginning of the line, restart X, glxgears will then work.

EDIT.. ok I made a pet with a proper fix

FAT is beautiful

Posted: Fri 11 May 2012, 13:08
by frktons
Hi everybody.
Just arrived in Linux and Puppy world.
Being a Linux noob but not afraid of getting my hands into something new,
I'd like to ask a couple of simple questions.
I've read something about the Puppy project in general, and I have to say
that it looks fantastic.
The FAT derivative is also more intriguing. Many things already there, ready
for use.
First question:
Considering the reports about missing things or bugs or whatever comes,
the distro is going to be corrected so that the new iso contains the patches
needed to make it works Out Of The Box (as they say)?
Second question:
Many of us (I suppose) own far more powerful PCs than the minimum
required to run a Puppy, so what about making distros even fatter with
other programs people tend to use, like: Chromium, Jdownloader, Skype
and so on?

I think many of us can use a 4-8 Gb partition for a full HD install with
a 2 GB SWAP extra partition.
I'm probably saying stupid things for experts Puppy geeks, but as I said I am only a noob :shock:

Thanks for your time

frktons

Posted: Fri 11 May 2012, 13:34
by Jasper
Hi frktons,

The future is unpredictable, but read the two posts immediately above yours and consider when you last saw a developer publish a solution within 16 minutes. Of course that's quick, even for Puppy, some volunteers sleep sometimes and some even have paid jobs and other unpaid tasks.

As regards your second question, have a look at Slickpet and also Puppy Package Manager (PPM) where you can use the Find box to see if any of the packages you would like installed are readily available.

Finally, you may like a frugal installation or some other choice rather than a full installation - so perhaps take your time for trials and thoughts.

My regards

PS I'm no expert - just a fully satisfied user.

Posted: Fri 11 May 2012, 13:55
by frktons
Thanks Jasper.
I agree, maybe some of my doubts will clear up as I delve into the
documentation and try some solutions by myself.
After that, if I get lost I can always ask over here :D

frktons

Posted: Fri 11 May 2012, 21:41
by 01micko
Hello frktons and welcome to Puppy Land!
Considering the reports about missing things or bugs or whatever comes,
the distro is going to be corrected so that the new iso contains the patches
needed to make it works Out Of The Box (as they say)?
I do intend to maintain this release and so far the bugs are relatively minor. If you do need the bug fixes in a CD to run live only, which is basically for what this distro fork is intended, then it should be possible to do an installation, add all current bugfixes only, then use the Puppy remaster tool and you will have a fixed release.
Many of us (I suppose) own far more powerful PCs than the minimum
required to run a Puppy, so what about making distros even fatter with
other programs people tend to use, like: Chromium, Jdownloader, Skype
and so on?
The reasoning behind what software one decides to include in a Puppy distro is governed by the target hardware. As you will see in the first post I have a "Minimum System Requirements" section and this Puppy should run fine on those targets loading fully into RAM. Why? Because that is the design of Puppy, to run in RAM. It will run on a machine with less RAM but there is a severe performance hit as the CD will stay mounted because the OS has to read the CD to operate, and we all know that reading from a CD (or DVD) is slow. Just FYI, puppy unpacks into RAM approximately twice the size of the main sfs file located on the boot media, it's the file with the sfs extension.
So, a line has to be drawn somewhere depending on the target hardware.


I hope this goes some way to explaining why I didn't make FATSlacko obese :wink: . It's still relatively small as a linux distro goes for the features it packs. once again, it should be possible to remaster with some extra programs to fatten FATSlacko some more.

Cheers

Posted: Mon 14 May 2012, 01:36
by frktons
Thanks Micko.

You have done a nice job and it is ready to be personalized.
I actually have a broad idea on how to do it, just need some time to
read and learn something about Puppy Land. :D

frktons

UTF-8 Encoding

Posted: Thu 17 May 2012, 20:14
by gcmartin
On initial boot, I selected UTF-8 in FirstRUN. I run a Live media system.

But, when using Geany, I've getting IS0-8859 encoding???

Even though this is an easy thing to fix (when spotted) in Geany, shouldn't
this have been handled when the desktop restarted? Or is this hard-coded in Geany?

Thanks in advance

Pet for FATSlacko - Docear PDF management

Posted: Tue 22 May 2012, 04:07
by Puppyt
Cheers 01micko, (EDIT how do I always get your name wrong?)

I'm really enjoying FATSlacko on my Lenovo T60 (2Ghz, 2GB ram). Mucking about recently, I just downloaded the latest Beta (3) for Linux of Docear http://www.docear.org/ - from their website:
[quote]Docear – The Academic Literature Suite

Docear (pronounced dog-ear) is what we call an “academic literature suite