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Standard/Advanced Menus

Posted: Mon 23 Jan 2012, 08:51
by RSH
Hi scOttman.

Thank you for your suggestions. Actually i did some of my work on this one project the way like you suggested.
scOttman wrote:There is a much easier way to achieve much the same thing:
Yes, there is mostly an easier way to achieve much the same thing. :D

- for an individual solution
- for personal use
- surely no other languages supported than english
- if experienced in puppy's filesystem structure
- if experienced in bash scripting
- by moving files around manually

All this is not given to a new linux user - especially a new puppy user. :cry:

When i do develop my work, every user will be able to get from a full featured desktop and menu to a "free" desktop (no icons except one for pmount) and a menu with only on program in it (if wanted so) - by only one single mouse click. :D

Also the wallpaper changes.

It will have language support for English and German and is able to add support for other languages by installing NLS packages. :D

The menus will also be available with FULL language support. :D

Actually there is no puppy with a (f.e.) german menu that says "herunterfahren" instead of "shutdown" etc.pp. If so, than you will have the "herunterfahren" by using English menu as well... (EDIT: i just didn't see one) :cry:

All this will be gone - (for jwm, openbox, fluxbox and fbpanel). :D

Example to create a puppy cd starting in different user modes:
Run fresh Puppy. Install the .pet. Choose User Mode BEGINNER. Remaster CD. :D 8)

Posted: Mon 23 Jan 2012, 09:13
by minesadorada
I'm really looking forward to seeing this project. Well done RSH!

Re: Standard/Advanced Menus

Posted: Mon 23 Jan 2012, 16:06
by sc0ttman
RSH, my way does support full localisation - as long as the .desktop files contain translations already - if they don't then extra steps/scripts are required, no matter what you do!

And actually, any puppy using Shinobars "Puppy-Desktop-NLS", or techno "jwm_tools" will already have "herunterfahren" (etc) in their menu, along with many other translations - and that is without any extra language files installed/added... Pups like this include Slacko, Akita, QuicksetWary, LupuQ and others...

BTW, I created a script for automatically translating .desktop files, too - see here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 449#555449 (it might not work now, google were planning to change/remove their API)

I just tested 'my way' on mine, works fine, localised too, ...took me 4 mins to setup..
Seems to work in openbox, jwm, xfce, lxpanel, fbpanel.. :)

I might package it up as a pet, simply to prove it works ;)

(Not trying to be nasty or horrible in any way, its just that a lot of this is already available in Puppy - toggle-rox-desktop, desksetup.sh and others all do some of what you want... you may find them useful... Just trying to help..)

Posted: Mon 23 Jan 2012, 19:14
by technosaurus
@scottman - that would be a hell of a lot simpler and faster if you just changed symlinks to directories - would it not?

Moved to LazY Puppy

Posted: Tue 24 Jan 2012, 06:42
by RSH
minesadorada wrote:I'm really looking forward to seeing this project. Well done RSH!
Thank you very much - very, very much! :D

Moved to LazY Puppy 8)

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 123#599123

RSH

Posted: Tue 24 Jan 2012, 07:20
by technosaurus
why make this hard?

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mv /usr/share/applications /usr/share/applications~
ln -s /path/to/simpleapps /usr/share/applications
fixmenus #though I recommend jwm_menu_create
mv -f /usr/share/applications~ /usr/share/applications

Posted: Wed 25 Jan 2012, 00:53
by RSH
Deleted, double post!

Posted: Wed 25 Jan 2012, 19:50
by Karl Godt
If this supposed function really is non-working debris, fixing it would be a good step - nothing confuses and annoys new users more than non-working debris.
My thoughts : 4 posts and memyselfandi=fewusers

Posted: Tue 07 Feb 2012, 14:29
by RSH
Karl Godt wrote:My thoughts : 4 posts and memyselfandi=fewusers
Hi Karl,

i do think everything and all that we use today in a matter of course has been started out as a few users project. Even Puppy Linux did start as a few users project. Another Word for few users project would be minority support (care) and we german guys do have this already in the Grundgesetz as you already should know.

I do think, the value of a company and/or commmunity, should be measured at how they do act about minorities (care, support etc,)

However, i did make some progress:

All User Modes working fine and i do use this feature actually in one of my private LazY Puppy isos. I did refine the menu and closed all sub-cagegories (except every last one) All changes on the menu, desktop, wallpaper, wbar and fbpanel are automatically saved if changing the user mode. So if changing back to the last user mode all settings will be available. :D

The Work goes on, more to come...

RSH

Note: i do not post images this time, because it takes too much time to work them out and put them in here.

Posted: Tue 07 Feb 2012, 17:38
by stu90
RSH wrote:
Note: i do not post images this time, because it takes too much time to work them out and put them in here.
Hello RSH,
Regarding image upload - maybe you will like this Yad script for easy uploading images from your computer 8)
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... b0384b7963