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DaveS,

Yes, There is a fairly simple patch for that in my post above yours.


Dingo,

Great! Let me know if you *do* find anything funky. So far I'm OK with everything...

OverDrive

More tries made today, My opinion is now to stay away from installing

ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributio ... 8.3-p4.pet
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributio ... 2.2-p4.pet

It's happened that Seamonkey windows redraws itself causing a little flicker

Barry has reported same problem using GTK 2.18

In SeaMonkey, the window would suddenly redraw, for no apparent reason, causing a big flicker. Now that I am testing Puppy 4.3.2, which has GTK 2.18.3, this problem has come back. It only happens sometimes, but I find it annoying.

so I'll try other fixes listed in this thread

OverDrive wrote:DaveS,

Yes, There is a fairly simple patch for that in my post above yours.


Dingo,

Great! Let me know if you *do* find anything funky. So far I'm OK with everything...

OverDrive

Applied patch. Seems fixed.

DaveS Glad to hear!

Dingo, FWIW My wife and I have been using SeaMonkey all evening and we havn't seen this flashing as of yet.

Just a theory here, Maybe It is hardware specific. I have a Compaq with an Intel X3100 Graphics chipset and my wife has a Toshiba with a ATI Radeon Xpress 200M . These were cheapo bottom of the line units bought quite a few years ago.

Maybe we can see what you and Barry have and see if there is a pattern there.

DaveS have you seen any flashing in SeaMonkey? What hardware do you have?

Anyone else, feel free to chime in also...

OverDrive

in my case I experienced a similar (but not he same problem) Barry has reported.

He spoken of: big flicker, while my seamonkey window flicker was little, but a bit annoying

My Hardware is:

mainboard: ASUS CUV 4X-VM
ram: KINGSTON, - 655 MB total
NVIDIA GFORCE 5550

Dingo, When you say flicker is it a white flash or more like a Ctrl +R screen refresh?

If anybody has tried this, Can you please report your findings....

OverDrive

the flicker is little but annoying; it is like a sudden redrawing of program window (like a flash)

it happens any time I start Seamonkey, if I open a link in a new window instead in a new tab, TA-DA!!! the return of screen flicker part 2 (the revenge) , or, if I open another seamonkey Window, I can see the part three of this strange movie: The screen flicker part 3, (the flicker strikes again!)

Additionally, I have annoying de-selection problems. it seems Barry predictions about rox-filer selections are true with GTK 2.18.xx, so, I Fear we must think another way to solve off-center problem

so, I Fear we must think another way to solve off-center problem

Well, I was thinking about your situation and remember that Barry rolled back to 2.16.xx for Quirky. So I downloaded it today to play with and it looks the patch is in it also. I scoured the usual "pet" sites and didn't find GTK 2.16.xx. I think if you find a 2,16 pet and the appropriate glib pet, that may put you in happyland. You can always try debian.org for a "deb". Puppy Package Manager recognizes debs and can install and uninstall them.

UPDATE: debian does not have any 2.16's, they jump from 2.14 to 2.18.

Anyway, Let me know if you find a 2.16 package and I will try it too. Untill then 2.18 is working OK for me. Did you also test with glib 2.2.2?

OverDrive

OverDrive wrote:

so, I Fear we must think another way to solve off-center problem

Anyway, Let me know if you find a 2.16 package and I will try it too. Untill then 2.18 is working OK for me. Did you also test with glib 2.2.2?

I found gtk 2.16 (I think) from puppyrus project

I have not yet tested, but suddenly I go to test

EDIt:

---------- (link deleted since I test ed this pet from live CD and it has scrambled puppy desktop)

Also, Don't try ubuntu's 2.16

I just tried it and it blew up the desktop also.

But I did learn something new. When you remove a upgrade package puppy copies a copy from RO to RW in initrd. Kind of wastefull but now that I know it happens I'll be able to monitor it and keep it under control. And usually you don't downgrade from a upgrade.

The more you bang on puppy the more you learn!!

OverDrive

BTW, What resolution are you running. I also have a stock 4.31 desktop at 1280 x 1024 with no problems....

OverDrive wrote:BTW, What resolution are you running. I also have a stock 4.31 desktop at 1280 x 1024 with no problems....

1440x900, I have an HANNS-G Widescreen LCD

Yeah, I'm beginning to wonder if it is a issue only for 16:xx type screens My desktop is the old standard 4:3 format. My laptops are 16:xx types. Maybe that is why there isn't a lot of responses to this thread...

Maybe most people are still on the 4:3 format monitors and not seeing what we are...

FWIW, You can do quirky 10. It has that fixed, But I'm having problems getting online with it. But that may be just me...

Using this everywhichway I can, and I dont THINK I get the screen flashing issue. I DO have a 16:9 display with Intel graphics. Sometimes its hard to be sure if the screen redrew or not, but frankly, if the choice is offset dialogues or stable screen in browser, I will take the dialogue option every time
Tried this with Seamonkey 1 & 2, Firefox 3.5, Opera 10.10.

Sometimes its hard to be sure if the screen redrew or not, but frankly, if the choice is offset dialogues or stable screen in browser, I will take the dialogue option every time

Yes, If it is just a redraw and not a white flash then I would put up with that too!

Something else I discovered was that this is *not* a problem in 4.12. I've been doing some A/B testing on a samba/b43 problem I am having, and while I was in 4.12, I tested a few apps and everything was fine.

It uses GTK-2.12.1, an even older version....

So what's that all about?

Today found and installed

gtk+-2.12.1-bug-fixed.pet
http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/pupp ... -fixed.pet

I tried Seamoney and Geany and these are working fine (window now opens in middle of screen finally)

Do you know if there are some conflicts in using gtk+-2.12.1 in Puppy 4.3.1?

at moment all applications I tried seems working normally

Hmmm, you went from 2.14x *backwards* to 2.12x. And it fixed it?!?!?!

*Brilliant!!!*

Puppy 4.1.2 had 2.12x and *no* problem with dialog boxes. I never would have thought of going backwards,,,,

I don't know of any issues. But you are pioneering here. So let tell us know.....

OverDrive

Dingo and others,

I finally did find GTK-2.16x and a matching glib at:

http://puppylinux.ca/members/T/444/gtk+-2.16.6-i486.pet

http://puppylinux.ca/members/T/444/glib-2.20.5-i486.pet

I have switched to these with no problems. I also understand Barry went back to 2.16x for quirky so maybe give these a try to see if it fixes the problem and doesn't cause any screen refresh issues....

OverDrive

P.S. Thanks so much to member technosaurus that compiled these.

Tried today, it is okay

also glib package is needed? It seems installing only gtk+-2.16.6-i486.pet , the bug is solved and apps work regularly

Dingo, maybe not on the glib. I know when I went to 2.18x, I had to upgrade glib then. In my research, I read it is best to keep them in similar development time-lines. However "it works" is a pretty powerful reason to not upgrade. So your call here...

Me, I went for it and can report no problems....

OverDrive