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Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 03:19**

musher0; CLI = Command Line Interface.

I`m eagerly awaiting the new Dpup also, 482 is awsome!
I haven`t had a Puppy so stable for a very long time.
I have run it literally for days and days without any problem at all.

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 04:59**

tubeguy wrote:
Is this a design feature
Actually I think it is, but I never had it break connections every minute, for me it's like every 30-40 meg.

10:05:31 (4.20 KB/s) - Connection closed at byte 31026290. Retrying.
10:06:38 (4.40 KB/s) - Connection closed at byte 31279835. Retrying.
10:07:56 (4.36 KB/s) - Connection closed at byte 31580100. Retrying.
10:08:56 (4.14 KB/s) - Connection closed at byte 31788385. Retrying.
10:09:53 (4.41 KB/s) - Connection closed at byte 31996670. Retrying.

That's how it was all morning, though no sooner had I posted here
than it changed to about every 10 mins now. Is it governed by
current traffic?

Only 3 more hours to go .......

But I'm sure it will be well worth this wait!

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 05:07**

Shep, yes..the bandwidth limiting is governed by the number of users logged in at the time...it endevours to give everyone a fair slice...it's obviously not that good at it....especially when low speed dialup logins are competing with high speed logins.

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 11:33**

http://www.meetup.com/qldlot/calendar/11952974/

hehe.. I might go to this and hand out Dpup beta5 cds...

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 14:45**

Beta5 will start in about 10 minutes...should only take 5-10 minutes to upload...

Cheers
Guy

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 14:55**

It's there........

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 14:59**

Hurray!

Downloading...

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 18:27**

The num lock problem on my R40 is still alive.
The circumvention is known to me.

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 18:58**

Everything seems fine here so far, I haven't rebooted yet though, running clean frugal install.
Numlock was NOT on by default here.
Abiword seems good, drec works, also tested a bit gimp 2.6.6 package so far works smooth, but I'm gonna test it more.
Control Panel and first wizard also better.
SSH & remote clients are also nice additions.

Mplayer still starts below taskbar though.
Ayttm crashes when trying to connect to msn account but I expected that, that's ayttm's problem.
Um, not sure how smart it is but should we ditch ayttm?
It crashes on amsn and I doubt it works with current yahoo messenger either. Maybe just put xchat in instead? Or even pidgin but I know that's a lot of fat on already very greasy dpup

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 19:18**

I just installed Dpup482-beta5 and ran the 1st install script and selected wbar, numlock on, locale, and then set up my internet connection.
When I rebooted, the pupsave was created.
But the wbar setting was not retained and I had to run the 1st install script again.
I have yet to see if that setting is retained this time.
Also, I tried installing the Floppy Formatter Pet that had the script that was written by the creator of ufiformat.
It failed on writing a dos file system to the disk.
So I used a fall back to a never released script that I had created that seems to work with Dpup.
For anyone that wants to try it, it is attached.

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 20:13**

I installed SDL pet and libgl* debs and I get this when I want to run some games:

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# ./neverball
X11 driver not configured with OpenGL

I compiled neverball on dpup beta4 it worked good, after installing sdl and glx/dri on beta5 it doesn't run with that message.

EDIT: Also with other games installed from debian:

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# torus-trooper
Error: Unable to create SDL screen: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
# briquolo
BRIQUOLO v0.5.7
SDL tells that the following fullscreen resolutions are available:
1600x1024 1440x900 1280x1024 1280x960 1152x864 1024x768 800x600
There is no configuration file
Default options will be used
Fullscreen is false
Trying resolution from configuration file...
Resolution 800x600
  Trying attributes and BPP: rMask=8 gMask=8 bMask=8 BPP=32 => Failed
  Trying attributes and BPP: rMask=8 gMask=8 bMask=8 BPP=24 => Failed
  Trying attributes and BPP: rMask=5 gMask=6 bMask=5 BPP=16 => Failed
Video Init error: can't create the window!
# chromium
WARNING: could not read config file (/root/.chromium)
WARNING: could not read score file (/root/.chromium-score)
randomizing.
SDL initialized.
Couldn't set GL mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL
#

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 20:46**

gposil wrote:A note for Dpup482 future....

Beta5 will be the last Dpup(non-retro kernel) to have Xvesa support, we will be moving to generic vesa in Xorg, as per all major distros...
The retro kernels when released will still have Xvesa.

Cheers

That should make it easier to run in VirtualBox.
Ralph

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 21:04**

gposil wrote:ralphv said:
Want to see if a frugal will cleanly unmount the partition at shutdown. Beta4 didn't.
Has this problem been reported before...I certainly haven't had any problems unmounting at shutdown....has anyone else had this problem...

Yeah, this one is a pain, and as Béèm said, it appears when you do an fsck. I put pfix=fsck in my kernel line in grub's menu.lst, in my usual frugal installs so fsck checks file integrity every startup, and is constantly reporting unclean shutdowns. I did not do this with Dpup test installs , however, so forgot to mention it here.

Also as Béèm says, it's been around for most puppies since, I believe, 4.x.

One workaround a user reported was to use the kernel switch PMEDIA=ataflash even on a hard drive instead of the more usual PMEDIA=satahd or idehd. This one does cleanly close. However, it has the disadvantage that you can lose work between the periodic automatic saves if power drops out.

It would be great to actually solve this problem, if that's possible. It creates an insecure feeling about shut-downs for me. Even if pfix=fsck corrects things.

EDIT that's ataflash, not usbflash

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 21:20**

firstrun frugal experience:
* numlock is deactivated
* setting firstrun use wbar
* apply settings -> immediate(!) x server restart; that was a little unexpected and killed my running firefox
* ok, icons are gone from desktop, but wbar doesnt show up
* doing a reboot, writing to savefile
* icons are back again, no wbar
next i'll check apt support

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 21:34**

Beta5 will start in about 10 minutes...should only take 5-10 minutes to upload...

Wahoo!

Mirror:

http://tubeguy.org/dpup-482beta5-2.6.30.5.iso

http://tubeguy.org/dpup-482beta5-2.6.30.5.iso.md5.txt

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 21:55**

vtpup wrote:One workaround a user reported was to use the kernel switch PMEDIA=usbflash

Never used that one.

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 21:58**

Béèm wrote:You only see this issue when you do a fsck, not at shutdown time.
I got this in several puppies already.
Can't remember them all, but the latest case was with upup476.
Haven't checked for a dpup yet.

Booted up beta5, opened no programs, shutdown, got an not cleanly unmounted when I checked the partition that has the pup save.
My hard drive is a bit different, shows up as sda instead of hda even in older linuxes that usually see hard drives as hda.
If I go to archlinux instead of running e2fsck, archlinux says the same thing, checks the hard drive, pauses for 15 seconds, and reboots

Ralph

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 22:50**

Just finished a full install on my P3 test computer.Used First Start Wizard to set internet connection and start wbar.....no problems.

Numlock not on by default here either.

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 22:52**

Béèm wrote:
vtpup wrote:One workaround a user reported was to use the kernel switch PMEDIA=usbflash
Never used that one.

Sorry, brainslip, that's ataflash, not usbflash.

Posted: **Mon 30 Nov 2009, 22:57**

vtpup wrote:
Béèm wrote:
vtpup wrote:One workaround a user reported was to use the kernel switch PMEDIA=usbflash
Never used that one.
Sorry, brainslip, that's ataflash, not usbflash.

Too late.
Smoke came out of the PC.

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