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sc0ttman wrote:I've found a pet file which should enable Chinese in any browser, including Firedog..

Here is the link:

http://www.browserlinux.com/software/WenQuanYi.pet (6mb)

I've attached an image, so people can see Firedog displaying Chinese in the website.

This does NOT fix other apps, you must have a Chinese locale installed in Puppy for that.

Thanks. As it happens, CatDude managed to dig up my old post of a year ago describing the manual method of installing the necessary wqy fonts. And I've already got them installed and working.

I am surprised at the size of the pet though. As I believe the fonts themselves are 16 or 19MB?

So if the pet doesn't work, try the method described below. And yes, it seems to work for both Seamonkey and Opera.

I haven't tried FireDog yet, I'm hoping to hang tough until a pet based on Firefox 3.6 is available. Firefox 3.6 is expected soon, because 3.5 isn't Windows 7 compatible.


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 6e1c0512a8

otropogo wrote:I haven't tried FireDog yet, I'm hoping to hang tough until a pet based on Firefox 3.6 is available.

It seems most Puppy users are keen to use the latest Opera or Firefox - demonstrated by the very, very poor download statistics for Firedog.. Compared with other packages available, the stats are rubbish!

Stats (at time of writing):

Hits: 1097
PET Downloads: 22
SFS 4.3 Downloads: 6
SFS 4.2 Downloads: 1

Why did I bother?? I guess most users are now on systems that happily run the latest browsers...
I am, too.. But I still prefer tried, tested and trusted FF2! Guess I'm in a small minority.

Oh, and thanks very much for your link and information otropogo.

On a related note, for anyone who is interested, Ttuuxxx once translated FirePup into French and knows exactly how to get a FF-based browser working in another language. He had offered to make this change into other languages (for FirePup)..
I don't know if that offer still stands, but it's out there! He seems to be a busy boy, though...

sc0ttman

Well I'm going to give it a try! Saw this thread yesterday (Along with jrb's sfs loader) and thought it was fantastic!

I've got a friend running a basic Puppy but having problems with Facebook. I intend to let her try the Opera 10 sfs and Firedog to see if that will solve the problem.

I didn't get the chance to download it last night (1.5 hours of ironing...) but I'm going to download it tonight! So expect those stats to go up by '1' at least.

And thanks (in advance) for creating Firedog - if you hadn't created it, there wouldn't be anything for us to try out now would there? Linux is all about choice...

DaveA

Well, I just downloaded Firedog and am planning to try it out tomorrow.

A lot of computer users seem to have the mentality of needing the "latest and greatest" app, even if it doesn't actually function as well.

I personally still have a couple of 2 and 3 series Puppy installs where the older Firefox performs better.....so that's what I use.

Thanks for making the pet and I will try it out........

when i click on the first mirror link it brings me to "sendspace" is this a safe place or is there another place to get it

Hi sc0ttman

sc0ttman wrote: It seems most Puppy users are keen to use the latest Opera or Firefox ...

Why did I bother?? I guess most users are now on systems that happily run the latest browsers...
I am, too.. But I still prefer tried, tested and trusted FF2! Guess I'm in a small minority.

Well, I heartily applaud your work. My favourite and only Puppy capable laptop ( I still have functioning Tandy 100 and an IBM 386 laptops) is stuck with Puppy 3.01 Retro, for lack of pcmcia-scsi drivers for any later versions. And, after all, Puppy is for that minority of Western PC users who still run ten-year old systems and older (I recently made the big move to one only a half a decade old, and can now afford to play with more bloated software.)

In any case, I'm certainly not a believer that "newest is best". I'm running Win2K and thinking about upgrading to XP on my Windows system. I'm wearing a watch that's probaly thirty years old, because I can't find one that has the same features for less than several hundred dollars (I paid $5 at a thrift store and put in a new battery for $2).

I use a half-busted digital battery tester bought from Radio Shack ten years ago because you can't buy anything comparable in Canada anymore, etc., etc...

But browsers are something special. Up to now, I haven't cared much about browser security in Puppy (and a good thing too!!). I just shrug when Xfprot opens and says "are you running xfprot as root?". But that's because I'm not currently using my Puppy system for anything critical, like my e-mail or my online banking.

The thing is that I'd like to be able to safely dual-boot this machine, and keep using Puppy for browsing, without worrying about infecting or corrupting my Windows installations. Despite its limitations and bugs, I like Seamonkey for it's relative simplicity of use. But I really want a browser I can keep secure, if I'm going to use it on a mission-critical machine.

And one nice thing about Firefox is that it gets lots of scrutiny and reportage in the PC press, such as PC World. Which makes it much easier to keep abreast of security issues..

Oh, and thanks very much for your link and information otropogo.

Glad to help!

nupupppy wrote:when i click on the first mirror link it brings me to "sendspace" is this a safe place or is there another place to get it

Yes, sendspace is, for me at least, the most reliable file-host.. I upload my files there as it's much quicker for me than other, more well-known sites. Don't be scared of sendspace..

New version available - Firedog 1.1

I've just released an improved version of Firedog, that has lots of new features, with very little impact on performance or size.

More details in the main post, which is now updated.

And thanks for the support guys, glad I'm not making it for no one.

Good job, sc0ttman!

That was a stroke of inspiration to assemble all those useful add-ons into a workable Internet suite!
I'll be trying it on 4.3.0 (ttuxx version) as soon as I get offline.

Out of curiosity: would you have considered the totally non-proprietary Icecat 2 for your suite? Would it have been possible? Or maybe the add-ons that you have used were only designed for Firefox 2?

All the best,

musher0 wrote:would you have considered the totally non-proprietary Icecat 2 for your suite? Would it have been possible?

I had a look at IceCat, couldn't get it to run as yet, hunting for loads of libs and making symlinks.. Looks like a great idea, but a little too much work for me, especially as there's no way I could get the filesize down... But it does support a very large number of FF addons, most of which are used in Firedog.

And thanks for the lovely words..

Firedog seemed an obvious thing to do since FF1.5/FirePup is starting to become more widely unsupported!!

Hi, sc0ttman!

Not that important, really, this Icecat 2. I had it running on Puppy 3.02. I remember downloading a bin file that I just clicked on to install. And it worked! I don't think SimpleMail existed then, but I remember I could use a SQLite plugin. The problem was that some Firefox plug-ins could not be used in Icecat, some conflicted with Icecat irself, or some aspect of Firefox was missing (my understanding of it ).

In any case, we have Firedog now! And... speaking of which: I installed it on the very recent dpup 4.82 and it works great on that Puppy too!

Again, great job!

I just did a fresh frugal install of Barry K's Puppy 2-2.18 and installed Firedog.........it seems pretty impressive after just brief test.

Here's a screenshot......

Good job.....

sc0ttman,

may I request the source code in order to compile it for my processor and try it out?

Nice screenshot James, good to see Firedog working on an older Puppy.. Glad it worked alright!

Anniekin wrote:sc0ttman, may I request the source code in order to compile it for my processor and try it out?

Sorry, but this is not a re-compile... I took the 'Firefox_2.0.0.20.pet' , found on this site, and simply extracted it, did a manual edit and some customising of all the files contained within it, and repackaged the pet file..

If you just download Firedog as it is, it will almost certainly work fine..

A Flash 10 pet has been added to the main post.

[update] Here is Flash 10 for all browsers:

Download flash_player-10.0.32.18.pet - works perfectly for me on Puppy 4.2, it's fast and works in fullscreen.

Note:

If you use other Flash pet files, you may need to move or copy libflashplayer.so into the /usr/lib/seamonkey/plugins/ folder.

I think the Flash lib may be moved in future Firedogs, when it comes out, as it will better support other browsers and Flash pets.

Anyone had problems with Flash after installing Firedog? I don't think anyone will, and it would only be a matter of linking the flash lib to solve any issues!

n/t

Rupp wrote:One reason for many to upgrade to FF3:
http://adblockplus.org/blog/to-anybody- ... to-upgrade

... The only reason it doesn't concern me is because I have edited those lists to be used in my hosts file.

Thanks for the info...

Firdog also includes BlockSite, which is a simple but effective way of hiding lots of stuff you don't want to see..

If you could let everyone know how to edit these host files, or even make an updated pet, that would be very nice...

Ah yes browsers seem very hard to compile.

Just opening the FF3.5 tarball crashes my xArchiver...

If midori had support for SSL I would get that just for it's webkit...

n/t

Rupp wrote:your next update you should use fanboy's [AdBlock] list instead. it is the same as the easylist with some things added but written in the old syntax [for FF2]. Its available here:

http://www.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/

Rupp

Thanks Rupp, great info.. I shall include Fanboys list in the next update.. For now people, click [url=abp://subscribe/?location=http://fanboy-adblock.googlecode.com/fi ... oy-adblock]this link[/url] and click in the top right corner to install it. This info was added to the main post.

Firedog 1.2 is now available, and added to the main post.

Download Firedog 1.2 (14mb, md5: 2b9b4976f2f8d0684c120b0f2e367bbd)

Firedog 1.2 - http://puppy2.org/downloads/firedog1.2.pet or http://www.sendspace.com/file/u0p8ko

Changes in Firedog 1.2:

- fixed combined refresh/stop button - no need to move them around
- updated AdBlock list - Fanboys list included by default, better ad blocking
- talkback binary removed - Mozilla don't support FF2 now, saved over 1mb
- updated start menu items a bit
- flash player 9 now works perfectly in fullscreen (for me at least)