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Posted: Tue 28 Oct 2008, 22:57
by wosifat
Gotta admit I prefer Thunar to Rox as well. How do I replace Thunar, or at least add it on?

Notes on Nop

Posted: Tue 28 Oct 2008, 23:54
by Henry
gray,

I observed a couple of things in Nop 4.1 that I think are not related to it per se, but worth noting.

1.) sgmixer stopped working and I could not recover it. Terminal said it couldn't run it. When I tried to use absvolume instead, same. I dropped back to a prior configuration. This problem has, I think been noted elsewhere in the forum for puppy 4.1. E.g. here:
sGmixer 4.1 official (2.6.25.16 kernel):
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... ce46284bc8

I dropped back to a prior configuration and this has not recurred.

2.) This might be a small bug in xfce/thunar. It has happened several times after making some panel changes, etc. I always configure thunar for single click and view as detailed list. When this problem occurs thunar always comes up after a reboot with double click and view as icons. Again, the only way I could fix this was to drop back to a prior configuration.

No problems at present. Nop is the best!

Henry

OpenOffice

Posted: Wed 29 Oct 2008, 09:38
by gray
alejobar: I use OO 2.4.1 from http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/bugs

wosifat et al who prefer Rox to Thunar : Philistines !!!

Henry: After Puppy 4.4.1 is out I will update NOP to add the fixes such as that for sgmixer. I will also upgrade to xfce4.4.3 / Opera 9.61 and flash 10. :D

thunar x rox

Posted: Wed 29 Oct 2008, 10:19
by renatogui
I do not know what philistines means but I would like to know it means thunar will stay as NOP oficial file manager. I could never manage rox properly. Definitely, I do not like it.

Posted: Wed 29 Oct 2008, 11:04
by Bizuayeu
Hello gray!

I find one thing.
There is .desktop file of "ThunarBulkRename'' in '/usr/share/applications'
and its exec command is '/usr/local/libexec/ThunarBulkRename'.
But actually "ThunarBulkRename" is located '/usr/libexec/ThunarBulkRename'.

Anyway, you will upglade xfce and this subject may useless :-)

Posted: Wed 29 Oct 2008, 13:31
by jcoder24
gray wrote:I will also upgrade to xfce4.4.3 / Opera 9.61 and flash 10. :D
Would it be possible for you to package "your" updated xfce and make it available?

Re: OpenOffice

Posted: Wed 29 Oct 2008, 15:43
by alejobar
gray wrote:alejobar: I use OO 2.4.1 from http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/bugs

wosifat et al who prefer Rox to Thunar : Philistines !!!

Henry: After Puppy 4.4.1 is out I will update NOP to add the fixes such as that for sgmixer. I will also upgrade to xfce4.4.3 / Opera 9.61 and flash 10. :D
Thanks for the link Gray, and just to verify, the .sfs file you can only use it with live cd and frugall install right? because I'm running full install and I mount the .sfs with boot manager, reboot and nothing happened, theres no open office on the menu, and I can see in boot manager that the sfs is mounted. :? so I'm lost here...

Posted: Wed 29 Oct 2008, 21:25
by Bizuayeu
Hello alejobar!

unsquashsfs your .sfs file and you can use it.
http://man.root.cz/8/unsquashfs/

Posted: Thu 30 Oct 2008, 16:41
by alejobar
Bizuayeu wrote:Hello alejobar!

unsquashsfs your .sfs file and you can use it.
http://man.root.cz/8/unsquashfs/
Thanks Bizuayeu, I saw your link but I don't get it sorry :( , I understand that i have to unsquash the .sfs file to use it in full install, but how do I do that?

Posted: Thu 30 Oct 2008, 18:13
by Bizuayeu
alejobar wrote:
Bizuayeu wrote:Hello alejobar!

unsquashsfs your .sfs file and you can use it.
http://man.root.cz/8/unsquashfs/
Thanks Bizuayeu, I saw your link but I don't get it sorry :( , I understand that i have to unsquash the .sfs file to use it in full install, but how do I do that?
Simply run "unsquashfs OpenOffice-3.0.sfs.org" on xfce terminal.
And copy all in squashfs-root to '/'.

...

Oh, the ways of cb88 and magerlab are more elegant.
Please pick up them.

Posted: Thu 30 Oct 2008, 18:24
by cb88
uuhhhmm actually you can just mount the sfs and copy the contents out as per here http://www.puppylinux.com/hard-puppy.htm scroll down to installing c++ compiler and folow the same instructions

unsquashing would take much longer since you would be doing a lot of coping instead of just extracting it to where it is supposed to be as per the link

Posted: Thu 30 Oct 2008, 21:00
by magerlab
i use OpenOffice.sfs with "hot mount"(i so called...)
click on sfs( or open with filemnt) and go inside to /program and find swriter( or soffice) and then click on it and you'll get a running writer aplication
then go to options and choose enable quick-start( sorry if some terms are not matching, i have russian interface in OOO)and youll see a tray icon from where you can choose any app of the suite.
do not forget exit from quick start before unmounting sfs

here is what it looks like in boxpup( slightly customised look:)
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7774/oootr9.jpg

Icon for Strawberry NOP

Posted: Sat 01 Nov 2008, 13:10
by vovchik
Dear Puppians,

Although I use my own "puppy distro" (qt3, qt4, KDE libs, GNOME libs, IceWM, Rox, OO 3.0, FF, dev libs, Slack 12.0), all in Mac OSX style, I can contribute an "icon" I recently modded that might fit the bill for a Stawberry NOP. Hope you like it, in spite of the overt culinary associations.

With kind regards,
vovchik

Posted: Sun 02 Nov 2008, 12:09
by shand
Caneri wrote:Hi Gray,

Here's a high speed link to use

http://puppylinux.igsobe.com/puppylinux ... 10-NOP.iso

md5sum is correct on the server here

http://puppylinux.igsobe.com/puppylinux ... md5sum.txt

Best,
Eric
Hi,
Not Download........,Why?

"Failed to Connect
The connection was refused when attempting to contact puppylinux.igsobe.com.
Though the site seems valid, the browser was unable to establish a connection."

Posted: Fri 07 Nov 2008, 05:58
by mistfire
Hi gray...i'm a puppy linux newbie...Your NOP is great...it looks like a windows vista environment...it is easy to setup...especially in file mangement..it is fast...by the way How to change the window theme manger? good luck and more power

Posted: Fri 07 Nov 2008, 11:47
by magerlab
look at the XFCE settings manager- there's an item on window manager set up

NOP 4.1 (.1) Revision 1 released

Posted: Sat 08 Nov 2008, 21:27
by gray
Updated to Revision 1 - see main post

Posted: Sun 09 Nov 2008, 02:53
by Henry
gray,

This update of the iso is not working out for me. I end up with a CD of puppy-410-NOP-r1.iso that runs as a live CD but doesn't upgrade.

I created it thus:
xdelta3 -d -s puppy-410-NOP.iso puppy-410-NOP_to_r1.delta puppy-410-NOP-r1.iso

The mdf checksum for puppy-410-NOP_to_r1.delta is correct. Doubtless I'm doing something wrong.

Does this new iso include Opera9.62 and the new xfce?

Thanks

upgrade problems

Posted: Sun 09 Nov 2008, 04:04
by gray
Henry:

Puppy 4.1 has the annoying habit of copying the pup_410.sfs to the hard drive where the pupsave file is located whether you want it to or not (or even know about it :twisted: ) So to upgrade you have to boot puppy with the pfix=ram option, then locate where the pup_410.sfs file is and delete it (or replace it with the one from the new CD).
Then reboot as normal. I tried to retrain the puppy to break it of this bad habit, but I am afraid the intricacies of the init script confused me some :cry: .

Posted: Sun 09 Nov 2008, 06:56
by shand
is NOP4.1.1?