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Posted: Wed 17 Sep 2008, 21:40
by MU
SERVICEPACK 1

I created two Servicepacks, english and german.

Servicepack1 is for Muppy 008.4c uploaded before September, 18, 2008.

On September, 18, the Isos were updated, and now already include the changes from Servicepack1.

Get it here:
ftp://ks301128.kimsufi.com/Muppy0084/fi ... vicepacks/

english:
changes german text when Muppy starts to english (/etc/rc.d/rc.local0).

english and german:
Replaces:
/usr/sbin/grubconfig

Grubconfig will set a drive "read only (ro)" on full installations.
I replaced all "ro" with "rw".

This might fix the issue reported by sage.
It also should fix the issue, when settings are not saved using a full installation.

If you already created a full installation, you must edit yourself /boot/grub/menu.lst, and replace "ro" with "rw".


Mark

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 00:44
by Fishy
Change from ro to rw stopped the x looping on my box. The dvd burner is not recognized in my full install. It was okay in the live disk and my second harddrive is not recognized after the full install. Only hda1 & 2 not hdb5 & 6. Muppy is installed on /dev/hdb6.

I tried to get my BFG 8800 nvidia card working but after the install at the prompt I got into a loop again. Typing "startmuppy" just returned me to to the dialog screen "type xwin to start jwm, reboot or shutdownor xorgwizard. I tried cfwizard both auto and manual selecting the newer board.

Having a newer video card and not getting it to work in any puplet is frustrating as hell, but, it is still more fun than windows. :) Muppy will provide many hours of fun. :D I should note that Dingo 4.08beta full install picked up both hardrives and DVD. The CD/DVD wizard in Muppy said no drives detected.

ASUS P5K Premium
Pentium Dual Core
Samsung DVD burner (sata set to IDE)
BFG 8800 GT 512 OC (Nvidia)

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 01:46
by GeexBoxer
I would like to thank you "MU" for releasing such an excellent release. I have been using minisys for a while now and will begin to use this now. Thank you.

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 01:55
by MU
GeexBoxer
I think I will upload a DVD edition this weekend (Live with everything included, so a 2 GB Iso).
It takes 4 hours to build it, and another 5 to upload.
As it has to be done for 2 languages, it will happen when the reports here show no further serious bugs.
It would be extremely timeconsuming, to upload bugfixed versions again.
Tomorrow I'll upload the buildsystem, at weekend the DVD version.
Mark

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 02:23
by MU
Fishy,

as I need to buy a huger CFcard first, at moment I just can guess.
Please look, if there are the nodes for your drives in /dev/.
You should have /dev/hda6
If not, copy them over from the CD while you run Muppy booted from CD.

Also run
fdisk -l
to see, if your drives are listed.
Or:
muppyfinddisks -all

Are they visible with these commands?

Mark

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 02:35
by GeexBoxer
I just started downloading "Muppy-Live-008.4c-EN.iso" and was at 7% and now cancelled it. Good you let me know that you were going to release a dvd version.

so basically let me get this straight

Muppy-Mini is just a basic system and following addons can be installed on it addons.sfs, games.sfs and office.sfs. but for those who don't want to install three addons can simply get megapack.sfs. so I figured getting Muppy Live will get everything but Live is missing megapack.sfs.
So now will the dvd version that you will release will include everything (all addons) including megapack.sfs. Am I correct?
Sorry for the long question.

And I would like to suggest something if you don't mind since the dvd release would be 2gb I would suggest you should split it up to several parts for easy downloading. This would save bandwidth and prevent file corruptions.

Thank You for the quick response.

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 02:51
by MU
GeexBoxer,
no, it is like this:

1.) Mini + addons + games + office = Live

2.) Mini + addons + megapack = Live + development + kde + gnome

The DVD will be like 2.) , just that everything is in one single file.
So you can run KDE and everything else directly from DVD.
And I would like to suggest something if you don't mind since the dvd release would be 2gb I would suggest you should split it up to several parts for easy downloading. This would save bandwidth and prevent file corruptions.
I could use "split" to split them.
And write a script, that creates one single file again.
I did this for Megapacks back in 2006.

But you also could use "wget -c" to resume iterrupted downloads.
That is easier than to use a script I think.

What would you suggest as best method?
I have shell access to the server, so it does not matter, I can run every comand I need.

Mark

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 02:56
by GeexBoxer
MU wrote: 2.) Mini + addons + megapack = Live + development + kde + gnome
The DVD will be like 2.) , just that everything is in one single file.
So you can run KDE and everything else directly from DVD.
Mark
Great. Thank You for clarifying.

regarding the split, no problem I'll use the wget as you are suggesting.

Thank You

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 02:57
by MU
I updated my last post, please have a look at it :)
Mark

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 02:59
by GeexBoxer
MU wrote:I updated my last post, please have a look at it :)
Mark
Thank You. I have looked at it.

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 03:28
by Lobster
:) Just like to say I am using this now for the 3rd day
(which might not seem very long but quite often I find some required facility not available and resort to the latest Puppy Official version within a couple of hours of puplet usage)

Once I had changed to JWM, disabled the desklets and switched to Seamonkey, I have something very familiar to Puppy users.
The default system was too radical (it would suit a new user or someone familiar with Muppy)

I (briefly) tried installing Xara Xtreme (a couple of pets) but it is not on the menu and frankly I have just been mostly using Seamonkey and have not tried very hard. (Been busy preparing a new timber floor I have built for its final layer - put in the underlay yesterday)

How would you recommend installing xara or any other package?
I am rather intrigued by Slackware compatibility . . .
How effective is that for installing?

Basically I have found Muppy completely workable
As Sage mentions - no show stoppers; just works

Good luck with the DVD version :)

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 03:35
by MU
Lob, can you give me a link to the latest release of xara?
Then I will install it and look about the menu issue.
Please also try to run in a consolewindow:
fixmenus -force
Then restart jWM.
Mark

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 05:44
by MU

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 06:16
by Lobster
Lob, can you give me a link to the latest release of xara?
This is the latest info I have - if your link is more up to date will add (forum is slow to link at the moment)
http://tmxxine.com/wik/wikka.php?wakka=XaraLx

Have implemented 'the force' - will have another go :)

May the force be with us . . .

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 06:28
by MU
the version from ttuuxx is the same as mine.
I did not check his version, as I did not know about it.
Mark

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 06:39
by Sage
Nope! rw does not solve the KP issue with the FULL Mini install.
Let's see if I can get the liveDVD installed without looping.

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 07:20
by esmourguit
Bonjour,

@MU
Hi Mark,
A french translation PET for Muppy follows in some days, GW already did most of the job

I didn't know he was working on it. Well, he PM me and we will work together. ;)
Cordialement ;)

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 07:39
by Lobster
MU wrote:the version from ttuuxx is the same as mine.
I did not check his version, as I did not know about it.
Mark
Ttuuxx version works up to the 3.xx (from what I remember)
Yours installed fine in Muppy - sorry about duplication :oops:
It is so long sijnce I installed that I used the two pets from my HD
rather than the complete ttuuxxx .pet
Maybe someone will test both and see if there is any difference
- Probably very slight?
I am running IceWM at the moment very nice - OK really must try Muppy and compiz fuzion soon . . .
Was hoping to try Muppy on the Asus Eeepc but need to start laying a laminate floor today . . .

:)

Re: Muppy 008.4c (final release)

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 08:13
by tlchost
MU wrote: MUPPY-LIVE
Thanks...downloaded, burned and booted up without a problem.

One note, the CUPS in the distro doesn;t recognize my HP Laser4Plus connected via USB, so I installed cups-install-v0.3.pup and cupspdf-0.3.pet

Thom

Posted: Thu 18 Sep 2008, 09:07
by Sage
There were some problems! Had to increase the mem to 512.
The ro/rw parameter in GRUB no longer influences the error messages which are an endless series of text :
login[<incrementing counter*>] root login on 'tty1'
-sh: error while loading shared libraries: libreadline.so.5:cannot ope shared object file: No such file or directory

*starts at 847 (I think).

CTRL-C ineffective.