(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

@ttuuxxx:
Either you don't know the definition of the word "forum" or you're choosing to ignore said definition. Which is it?

This may not matter to your minions but it does to me, and I suspect some others.

Umm... I have to very strongly agree with Jeff and Chris on this one. This is the entire idea behind "Community Edition": It's because the entire Puppy Community colaborated together to make the edition being put out. Reviewing the history of Community Editions here and you'll discover that none were created in a vacuum.

Just my 2 pieces of wampum anyway for what it's worth.

Amicalement,

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"

ttuuxxx wrote:

I'm Just wondering if anyone has a forum that could be locked and only team members of puppy ce would have a password, so we can have discussions amongst ourselves.

I have been involved in development of new software and I have to agree with ttuuxxx 100% on his question. To tell you the truth I am very surprised there isn't a closed/hidden forum setup for the developers already. Nothing can be more distracting as a bunch of misc opinions from none developers (such as myself in this case).
Others opinions and bug reports come in after the developers release an alpha. It's them when all can have constructive input into the project.
As the old saying goes.
Too many cooks spoil the brew.

wingruntled wrote:ttuuxxx wrote:

I'm Just wondering if anyone has a forum that could be locked and only team members of puppy ce would have a password, so we can have discussions amongst ourselves.

I have been involved in development of new software and I have to agree with ttuuxxx 100% on his question. To tell you the truth I am very surprised there isn't a closed/hidden forum setup for the developers already. Nothing can be more distracting as a bunch of misc opinions from none developers (such as myself in this case).
Others opinions and bug reports come in after the developers release an alpha. It's them when all can have constructive input into the project.
As the old saying goes.
Too many cooks spoil the brew.

Thats the stuff I'm talking about, A forum to get organized, without distractions, just straight down to business, The roles of everybody involved, maybe contact info like emails etc, lets face it PM aren't that good on here, your inbox gets full after 30 or so, kind of useless, Plus just tossing ideas around, and once we make a Alpha and then release it to the public and get the feedback. I'm not talking 100% lock-down mode. But less distractions gets more work done, I used to use the #1 puppylinux chat all the time and I had no time for anything else, Once I left the chat, I noticed how much more stuff i could do, now i only visit it on occasions, And let me tell you I get way more done.
A forum is perfect just for group posting, meeting notes in hard copy where we don't have to sort hundreds of other peoples postings. Really we are here to get the job done as quick as possible with the highest quality of standards.

ttuuxxx

Ps my website is finally up again, :)x100000

@ttuuxxx:
To categorize community input as "distractions" is pompous at best, and arrogant at worst.

The forum and IRC are two completely different animals. Don't be an elitist.

" Too many cooks spoil the brew. "

Perhaps we are forgetting another cuisine maxim.
" The chef is only as good as his waiter allows. "

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2. Aside from the line of truth, or right reason; unreasonable or unreasonably; perverse or perversely. "

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The mere fact that I am in agreement with alienjeff shows that the above may be in vogue.
Maybe this should be the plot or has someone done this before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_Rock_from_the_Sun

" The family often communicates with their off world (and usually unseen) boss, "The Big Giant Head", (BGH) who apparently only got the job by kissing "The Big Giant Butt".
When in human form, "The Big Giant Head" (William Shatner) is an arrogant, alcoholic sexual predator.
His orders are received by Harry, who unexpectedly (and often in inconvenient circumstances) stands erect, his arms stiff (acting as the antenna), and proclaims: "Incoming message from the Big Giant Head"

(originally, Harry did not have a purpose on the mission at all, but it was later revealed that he has a transmitter implanted in his brain which allows contact with the BGH. To make himself seem important, he subsequently described himself as the "communications officer").

Of course no reflection on anyone......a sense of proportionate humour may assist.

Chris.

ttuuxxx wrote:

I'm Just wondering if anyone has a forum that could be locked and only team members of puppy ce would have a password

I can see where ttuuxxx is coming from here. In order to get on with the job, you need an environment that is free from the responsibility of having to field all sorts of questions from other forum members about problems and requests for stuff.

There is though a way to have your cake and eat it here.

It's possible to keep the whole thing open if someone in the community is prepared to take on the role of "Press Spokesman"

His job would involve dealing with all of the questions and queries submitted by other forum members. This way, the people who are doing the building work don't even have to look much at the forum while they are otherwise engaged in the job they do best i.e. building the thing. Also just as important - the whole thing is visible to the community - nothing hidden.

Any takers?

Enter disenchantment. Ciao.

My wife found this...this is not an endorsement just a link.

https://launchpad.net/

Might be of some use.

Eric

@ttuuxxx

This is a decent, free forum if you decide to go that route.

http://www.conforums.com/index.html
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Launchpad is a useful project development site. It just requires some familiarization. I haven't used it long enough to tell whether email exchange among members would still be needed.

For exchanging information among developers, googlemail should be able to give each subscribed member a threaded discussion by topic (as long as nobody changes the subject (topic) line).

tronkel or ??
You may want to talk to John Murga. The below quote is from the phpBB community.

Re: Make a forum readable/postable but invisible

Postby Lumpy Burgertushie on Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:09 am
create a forum, make it private/hidden

create a group that will have access to that hidden forum.
put everyone you want to be able to view/post, etc. that forum in that group.

only give those people the link to that forum/

I think this will do what you want.

robert

This is the way we use to do it. Close to home

I agree with AJ. A hidden private forum is a Bad Idea. But I do see where having a separate (but not hidden) place for the actual developers to discuss their development related stuff would be nice. Someplace where threads won't be mixed with other unrelated threads, making coordination easier. By "development related" I mean the actual coding and implementing, not the discussion. Because for example, say I modify the install scripts. Anybody else who needs to add a modification to them is going to need to be aware of the work I do so we don't wind up breaking each other's stuff. Having a place to keep all this stuff and nothing else would make it much easier to track each other and know what's going on.



Because I'm confused and have been too busy to keep track lately, has it been cleared up about the whole 2.xx and 3.xx thing now? Are we now doing both 2.xx and a 3.xx CEs?


And for the record, I probably won't be participating much in either of these. I've been messing with Puppy too much for too long, and neglected a bunch of other things. I have given myself an ultimatum to have my Pebble and Isolinux/Syslinux stuff completely done by Sunday, at least for Ecomoney's project. I'll also get it all working for 3.01 (mostly is already). Depending on the time then, I might take a look at 3.02, but I really don't have the time for people to keep changing the rules on me like this. Chances are porting it from 3.01 to 3.02 will be trivial, so I'm not going to make that a high priority. Any monkey with Geany and TkDiff could do it, unless Barry changed the boot and install scripts significantly, in which case it would need to be a monkey who understands BASH a little bit.

For that matter, I don't even know if the 3.xx group wants that stuff in the first place. I'll do it for 3.01 regardless though.

Well, wonders of wonders even I agree with AJ on this. And just like he, "I came, I saw, I departed."

Not like it's a big loss as I couldn't have done anything anyway but perhaps test. But I'm not even gonna watch the link now. I'm more good somewhere else on the forum.

Tristement,

Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"

2.xx and a 3.xx CEs?

"Talking Stick" CE
(maximum stability for older hardware) based on Puppy 2.14r (retro)
"Ive cleared the decks in terms of my (ecomoney's) other work, and will be full-time on the job from now on until it is completed." Robert

Robert' who produces EcoPup is project leader
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/TalkingStick

There is also a 3.xx CE series being planned
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/TalkingStickLassie

Pizzasgood wrote:

I've been messing with Puppy too much for too long, and neglected a bunch of other things

This looks like hard evidence of the existence of a world outside the time/space of the Puppy Linux Zone. I have always suspected that this world exists, due to various reports that have filtered into this zone from the outside. Has anyone else had experience of this exciting, strange and possibly stressful universe? Is it safe?

It depends on your definition of safe. I'm the type of person who runs alongside then jumps onto runaway tractors so I'm probably not the guy to ask...