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Hello kattami,

You could try this slax mono module:

http://slax.hosting4p.com/modules.php?c ... &name=mono

I've no idea whether it's latest version etc but, if you can get it to work, it might save you digging up a ploughed field.

A slax .mo can be loaded like a pup .sfs file. Then you may have to manually symlink any relevant /usr/bin & /usr/lib files to their proper locations. Let us know, either way, about how you go.

Interlude

cognitive-dissonance-trans-dimensional machine

It is just possible we may live in such a device. There is a physics theory that the reason the speed of light is a constant because the top speed the matrix like hallucination is run at, is related to the speed of light. Game on.
There is also some evidence for quantum tunneling in biological organisms (only two scientific shreds I have come across so far). One here:
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/20 ... to-ha.html

and now back to the records . . .

The reason we support Windows files in Puppy is not because they are small and efficient but because there is a wide usage. In a similar way much expertise is being developed in .NET and java despite there solving of problems that do not exist for many Puppy users.

I do believe that a Developers Puppy, which allowed programmers to explore and compile a variety of languages, would be very welcome.
I did attempt this but it needs time, work and dedication.
http://tmxxine.com/wik/wikka.php?wakka= ... xinePhoton
Maybe someone is up for it . . .

I've been following mono for around1.5yrs, The thing which brought my interest to it was that paint.net was ported with it for linux. I do like paint.net its a closer rival to photoshop then say gimp is. And when it comes to graphics that's what i like to dabble in
here's the paint program I was talking about. http://www.getpaint.net/

also here's the orginal document on its porting. http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2006/May-19.html

and here's the google code about it
http://code.google.com/p/paint-mono/

and finally here's all the google info on it
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q ... arch&meta=

The reason why I lost interest in mono was because pain.net is a very small application, only a couple of MB, but after 2 yrs+ they still don't have a 100% port done yet.

maybe 1 day a new paint.net will be made for Linux.

ttuuxxx

kattami wrote:And another issue is that my forex trader site has moved over to asp.NET with their new website, so every trader can just log on there no matter where they are.

I don't think I follow you.

It does not matter what technology is used to write a web site as long as it produces HTML. That the site uses asp.net is inconsecuential.

I guess that what you are facing is a website that uses Silverlight.

As far as I know Silverlight is the only web technology that requires .NET on the client.

The linux counterpart for Silverlight is Moonlight also being developed by the mono project.

If that's the case, I'd say stay with Windows for now until Moonlight is usable.

Ok, I see...

Muggins, thanks so much for finding that mono package. I am looking at it now to try to figure it out.

Rarsa, I dont know how it is with the Silverlight and such. What I know is that they told me they used asp.NET to create the whole program, which is accessible from a browser, specifically IE 5.0 and above versions.

I asked them if I could use firefox (and linux) because I dont like IE and quit using it years ago, and they said yeah as long as you use the IE tab for firefox (addons), and no, they dont think its possible to use it with Linux. Which means you have to have the engine that is under Internet Explorer (and its also not possible to use versions before IE 5.0).

If Mono can view this with the Moonlight.....wow! Thats worth to wait for.

ttuuxxx, you are not alone about waiting for an alternative to photoshop and all those adobe programs. I was asked by a webdesigner friend earlier today if there was anything in linux that was a good alternative. I had to say that there is some replacements but no, not for everything in that huge program package.

On the topic about asp.NET....found an open source project yesterday, and I like their intention with this project:

http://www.gnu.org/software/dotgnu/pnet.html

Said some not so pretty words when I read the article "Dont get caught in a .NET" there. Typical Microsoft to say that the era of open computing and free exchange of digital information will end with their .NET plans.

Yeah, right!

kattami wrote:I asked them if I could use firefox (and linux) because I dont like IE and quit using it years ago, and they said yeah as long as you use the IE tab for firefox (addons), and no, they dont think its possible to use it with Linux. Which means you have to have the engine that is under Internet Explorer (and its also not possible to use versions before IE 5.0).

Then they are either ignorant, stupid, lying or Microsoft paid them to block other platforms.

The truth is that even if the site is checking the platform to artificially limit the use to windows platforms HTTP is HTTP. So as long as the browser complies with the standards, you can always trick the server.

I followed the advice in the following link
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/col ... _firefox_2

and I was even able to use the "full" hotmail version under Linux.

Publishing pages that check the platform is definetivelly malicious and stupid.

So, if they told you what they told you out of ignorance, now you can illuminate them.

If they maliciously lied to you... well, you'll know what to do.

Thank you for your reply, rarsa.

I tried what the site you gave link to said, and then logged in with the new user agent (tried both the vista one and the new xml file with that code which I imported), but I still got the grey box that said "Dear user, Please wait while the system loads..."

And there it stays.

So I guess it could be something like Silverlight and encryption stuff they are using. SSL and probably something else. Its alot of money in this area so they have to make it as hackerproof as possible.

However, I WILL find a way to be able to use Puppylinux on this

No way that this girl is going to give up, haha.

muggins wrote:i'm stuck here until lob can get his cognitive-dissonance-trans-dimensional machine functioning...but i still think small is beautiful!

Thats funny muggins

I came here looking for information on "mono" because i was testing "Kinsky" upnp client and it wont run without /usr/bin/cli which seems to be a subset of Mono - which quite frankly looks like a monstrosity.

Your comment gave me a chuckle. Cheers!

If whoever started this topic had said what Mono is, what it's supposed to do or be for, I might know where the topic belongs.

As far as i can tell Mono is a massive piece of bloatware which enables a range of software to interface with the Microsoft ".Net framework" which is in itself bloatware that attempts to unify the web into a pseudo proprietary private network. I'm probably being uncharitable in that description but i think its fair to say that puppy should best avoid Mono if possible.

Now that i have found out a bit more about it I will certainly be avoiding it.

Thanks. I'll leave this topic where it is.

For those who search for Mono on puppy...

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40567

Tested recently.
It works!

Little older though...