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Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 00:33
by edoc
gcmartin wrote: I want to ask if you could burn and boot the Mariner ISO. Test it on your PC and see if you have similar issues with sound. Thus far, I have not been able to create this on a non-UEFI laptop. And since my only attempt at booting a UEFI laptop, FATDOG nor LH64 would not -allow desktop display, no matter which driver was loaded.
DVD burned with LH64-Mariner 6660

Same problems with audio.

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 00:36
by Q5sys
gcmartin wrote:Hi @Edoc

Looks like you are running Basic Lighthouse602 versus the Mariner edition (both work, just trying to note which you are using. I have never used Basic thus far.). Is that correct?

Others who use multimedia and the web are better able to answer those questions. I have not been able to recreate the sound problem you are having.

I want to ask if you could burn and boot the Mariner ISO. Test it on your PC and see if you have similar issues with sound. Thus far, I have not been able to create this on a non-UEFI laptop. And since my only attempt at booting a UEFI laptop, FATDOG nor LH64 would not -allow desktop display, no matter which driver was loaded.
Regarding the sound issue only. There are NO difference between the sound sub-systems between the Basic and Mariner additions. Mariner only includes more SFS packages in the DVD.
So everything else is exactly the same.
lhpup.org wrote:Lighthouse 64 Mariner ISO 6.02 B2
This ISO includes everything in the base ISO plus Flashplayer-plugin, Google-Chrome, OpenJavaRE, LibreOffice, NLS_base, Thunderbird, Transmission, VLC, Wine, Xfce, Gvfs and Udisks SFS. These SFS files and more are also available for the base ISO at the SFS download link above.

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 00:36
by Q5sys
edoc wrote:
gcmartin wrote: I want to ask if you could burn and boot the Mariner ISO. Test it on your PC and see if you have similar issues with sound. Thus far, I have not been able to create this on a non-UEFI laptop. And since my only attempt at booting a UEFI laptop, FATDOG nor LH64 would not -allow desktop display, no matter which driver was loaded.
DVD burned with LH64-Mariner 6660

Same problems with audio.
I see you commented the same time I did. So see my prior post.
Going from Basic to Mariner will sadly NOT do anything for your sound issue.

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 00:41
by edoc
I'm guessing that I may need to use a different player.

xine does work ... sometimes.

Someone mentioned Clementine?

Also, I'm still running in Vesa mode, bypassing Radeon, is there a potential fix for that, please?

I am also still booting from a USB stick, haven't had time to revisit the UEFI thing - I'd prefer to fix the sound and video first.

I have another challenge with certain USB devices being completely ignored, e.g. a SIIG video conversion dongle, Terratec SDR-RTL FM receiver dongle, Hauppauge video conversion dongle.

They don't even show up in Hardware info. Very odd.

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 00:59
by Q5sys
edoc wrote:I'm guessing that I may need to use a different player.

xine does work ... sometimes.

Someone mentioned Clementine?
Depending on the player, it may have the ability to select an audio device. that's what I had to do with my old rig when I had sound issues with VLC. it'll over ride the default settings and use whatever device you choose.
Heres an example in VLC: http://i.imgur.com/mbisKLq.png
Keep in mind my system only has 1 audio device at this point, but you can see how many options it has for that one device.

Other players might have similar settings somewhere in them.

However if your default is not selected properly, no browser audio will work.

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 01:20
by edoc
Would you recommend that I install VLC & make it the default for sound?

And reason not to go that way?

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 01:25
by Q5sys
edoc wrote:Would you recommend that I install VLC & make it the default for sound?

And reason not to go that way?
Not that I can think of. it wont solve your browser audio issue, but it should at least play media for you without issue. Might take a bit of trial and error to figure out which setting you need.

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 02:01
by edoc
OK, will experiment as time permits.

Thanks!

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 05:32
by gcmartin
Thanks @Edoc. So the problem you experience is consistent across each LH64 602 version. This provides info so that.

Q5sys has stepped forth and supplied some experiences he decides to share.

Below is a tool in LH64 that might help Q5 diagnose with his experience.

Post your results to the forum, maybe something can be spotted here in the thread on that sound problem.

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 13:24
by edoc
Here it is ...

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 14:43
by edoc
Q5sys wrote:
edoc wrote:Would you recommend that I install VLC & make it the default for sound?

And reason not to go that way?
Not that I can think of. it wont solve your browser audio issue, but it should at least play media for you without issue. Might take a bit of trial and error to figure out which setting you need.
A Beta is always an adventure. :)

Perhaps the SystemReport I just posted contains some helpful data?

Thanks!

David

The Update destktop utility

Posted: Thu 25 Jul 2013, 16:58
by gcmartin
@TaZoC, when starting the system today, I noticed a new POPUP. It was Update desktop utility announcing the availability of subsystem updates.

WORKS Brilliantly!

Re: The Update destktop utility

Posted: Fri 26 Jul 2013, 09:54
by Q5sys
gcmartin wrote:@TaZoC, when starting the system today, I noticed a new POPUP. It was Update desktop utility announcing the availability of subsystem updates.

WORKS Brilliantly!
That feature has been around for a while in LHP. Did you never get that before? I'm pretty sure that its been in the entire 6x series.

Adobe behaving badly?

Posted: Sat 27 Jul 2013, 13:43
by edoc
An Adobe window keeps popping up on this site when using LH64 & Firefox:

http://www.thetrainingstationinc.com/GymCams.html

Any idea why, please?[/url]

Posted: Sat 27 Jul 2013, 22:48
by gcmartin
@Edoc
I did find on a 32bit thread, that Alsa Wizard had a positive impact on motherboard sound where alsaconf did not. Can I assume you tried both of these?

@Q5Sys
Thanks Q5 for your comments about something that I wrote. In fact, I shared the Update ability in LH64 in something I wrote about in the forum, several LightHouse years ago. I think you may have missed the intent of the post,... again.

Before you took it upon yourself to quote and twist what I had shared, had you given any additional though to @Edoc's sound issue? You did indicate you had experience with this.

Here to help.

Posted: Sun 28 Jul 2013, 00:02
by edoc
gcmartin wrote:@Edoc
I did find on a 32bit thread, that Alsa Wizard had a positive impact on motherboard sound where alsaconf did not. Can I assume you tried both of these?

Here to help.
I'll have another look ... I do have more sound than before ... something changed ...

Posted: Mon 29 Jul 2013, 13:24
by edoc
I've been monitoring the boot process every morning to manually bypass the Radeon video modules.

A couple of times recently I'm missed that window and everything opens up OK.

However, after using the laptop for a few hours I begin to notice odd long delays in response to mouse or keyboard input - mostly if not exclusively in Firefox - and then longer delays with the screen not rewriting properly.

I'm blaming the video conflict and will be more careful to bypass Radeon at boot until that, and UEFI/Frugal are fixed, but thought I'd mention it in case it's a memory leak or something unrelated to Radeon.

LH602 losing ability to use eth0 after an overnight sleep

Posted: Tue 30 Jul 2013, 04:46
by gcmartin
Anyone else have a problem with LH602 loosing the ability to navigate the LAN when its sleeps with cover closed overnight?

Problem Scenario
Upon awakening, the IP is present but it cannot access ANY LAN IP resources. Using Frisbee to restart DHCP on the eth0 interface will get an IP, yet, LAN navigation goes nowhere. Cannot ping or access any LAN resouces. ... until reboot.

Ideas.

Posted: Wed 31 Jul 2013, 14:05
by edoc
If someone finds a moment - I recognize that everyone is busy and are volunteers ... and so I appreciate all that you share ... but I cannot come close to sorting this out:
How to watch TV via IP with SiliconDust HDTV tuner?

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=78268
He found a way to get it working in FatDog64 so it should work in LH64.

It seems as though it would add a powerful multimedia feature set.

Posted: Wed 31 Jul 2013, 22:45
by edoc
is there any news out there re. a resolution to the Radeon module, please?

I'm experiencing some odd delays in repainting the screen in the default VESA mode - not sure if it explains the problem with multiple windows in Firefox all but freezing-up the laptop after a while.