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Posted: Fri 15 Jun 2012, 17:26
by Gnuxo
Scsijon, whose working on qtpup is developing the razorqt-kwin for his upcoming Pup.
If you have questions about it, you should ask him. Perhaps you two can collaborate.
Posted: Fri 15 Jun 2012, 19:31
by saintless
Thanks, Gnuxo,
I'm not sure if I can be of real help for the developer but who knows...
I will do some testing of this alpha QTpup.
Posted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 13:46
by bohocmasni
I tried frugal install this kdpup-lite but didnt work, didnt found main sfs file in directory. how can I show the place of file from init-ram console? and how can I change main sfs location before booting?
Posted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 15:57
by saintless
bohocmasni wrote:I tried frugal install this kdpup-lite but didnt work, didnt found main sfs file in directory. how can I show the place of file from init-ram console? and how can I change main sfs location before booting?
It is strange... I haven't tried the light version but with the full version on a different computer I had a message from Puppy universal installer it can not find the files on CD-Rom drive. To solve this I had to show the path to the files manual. As far as I remember you can simple open the CD-Rom and drug and drop the initrd or vmlinuz file from there to the path asking window. This should be enough to solve this problem.
You can also copy manual the files after you boot the live CD and then you can change grub menu list. I prefer to do this because it takes less time than Universal installer process.
To change the SFS location before booting you can type E when grub menu list appear. Then you can change the path to the file by hitting E again and Enter. Then you can boot the edited grub entry with B.
Posted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 18:48
by bohocmasni
P. e. when I boot from lupus live CD I can type "puppy pupsfs=sdb1:/OS kdpup/kdpup/kdpup-484.sfs" ( or st similar ), and it works ( with lupus kernel? )
I think if I could give sfs-s name and location with hand... What file 'knows' kdpup-484.sfs-s name? Because it search this file so one of files knows this name...
( I tried this way frugal install this way, and I dont want to sacrifice a CD. )
( H is GRUB is same the other pups GRUB (qtpuppy, macpup), and they work with this settings: )
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rootnoverify (hd1,0)
kernel /OS/kdpup/vmlinuz psubdir=/OS/kdpup/ pmedia=atahd nosmp
initrd /OS/kdpup/initrd.gz
Posted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 18:59
by saintless
bohocmasni wrote:P. e. when I boot from lupus live CD I can type "puppy pupsfs=sdb1:/OS kdpup/kdpup/kdpup-484.sfs" ( or st similar ), and it works ( with lupus kernel? )
I don't know what should be the boot code this way, but you can extract the files from the iso with IsoMaster.
Here is my working grub menu entry for KDPup-484 the full version.
Look for the right name of the main SFS for the lite version when you extract the iso and replace it in my example code:
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title Puppy Linux 484 frugal in sda1 dir puppy484
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /puppy484/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=puppy484 nosmp
initrd /puppy484/initrd.gz
boot
Posted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 20:29
by bohocmasni
don't help
That's annoying, i can't find out where is fault. Other puplets work, and this works also when i try with lucid puppys kernel.
( and md5 is also good
)
new idea: did you try in ntfs filesystem? it's possible that ntfs and minus sign in the name don't like each other
Posted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 12:06
by saintless
bohocmasni wrote:new idea: did you try in ntfs filesystem? it's possible that ntfs and minus sign in the name don't like each other
I have KDPup frugal install on vfat and ext partition. I don't have NTFS.
Posted: Thu 21 Jun 2012, 10:20
by dejan555
bohocmasni, you should be able to just click iso to mount it, then copy files from it to kdpup subdir and it should work with grub example like saintless posted, try putting subdir on the root of partition.
Posted: Fri 22 Jun 2012, 00:21
by Gnuxo
HI, quick question.
Since this is a kde pup, will it use Kmplayer and kpart to stream without flash?
It would make sense to do that instead of gnome mplayer, and gecko-mediaplayer right?
Posted: Fri 22 Jun 2012, 00:57
by saintless
Gnuxo wrote:HI, quick question.
Since this is a kde pup, will it use Kmplayer and kpart to stream without flash?
It would make sense to do that instead of gnome mplayer, and gecko-mediaplayer right?
Testing the squeezy debian packages kmplayer and kpart gives me
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this error when I try to start kmplayer:
kmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libkde3support.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
I can choose to download kmplayer from PPM but the download there gives an error.
I suppose it is a dependencies issue to make it work.
Posted: Fri 22 Jun 2012, 03:31
by Gnuxo
Well, here's the pkgs entry for kmplayer for squeeze.
Scroll down for the full dep list. If any deps are missing, pkgs has them.
http://pkgs.org/debian-squeeze/debian-m ... 6.deb.html
I wonder how difficult it would be to backport a newer version of Kmplayer.
The newest is 0.11.3c? That's not a giant leap. I think some stuff from the wheezy repos could get that working. Pkgs has everything.
Posted: Fri 22 Jun 2012, 11:51
by saintless
Gnuxo wrote:Pkgs has everything.
Not in this case I'm afraid
Most of the needed dependencies are not in this link. Take a look:
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# kmplayer
kmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libkparts.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# kmplayer
kmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libkio.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# kmplayer
kmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeui.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# kmplayer
kmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libkdecore.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# kmplayer
kmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libsolid.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# kmplayer
kmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libkmediaplayer.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# kmplayer
kmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libkpty.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# kmplayer
kmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libnepomuk.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# kmplayer
kmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libnepomukutils.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# kmplayer
kmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libstreamanalyzer.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# kmplayer
kmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libattica.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
# kmplayer
kmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libdbusmenu-qt.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#
I don't have time to install all dependencies one by one and to look for the next missing. I will do it faster if I apt-get kmplayer in Debian Live CD and get all needed dependencies at once.
Posted: Fri 22 Jun 2012, 18:00
by Gnuxo
Posted: Fri 22 Jun 2012, 19:58
by saintless
Sorry, Gnuxo, this is a dead end
After getting 82 Mb of dependencies archives and 210 Mb of real hard disk space used I got this message:
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# kmplayer
kmplayer: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by /usr/lib/libkde3support.so.4)
kmplayer: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found (required by /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.5)
kmplayer: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found (required by /usr/lib/libstreamanalyzer.so.0)
kmplayer: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found (required by /usr/lib/libstreams.so.0)
I don't think kmplayer will be a better option than using flash at least for KDPup. Maybe older version of kmplayer will be easier to install but the latest one from Debian squeezy packages is not a good idea.
The packages I got with apt-get from Debian Live CD are for Kmplayer V 0.11.2b and KDE 4.4.5. KDPup has KDE 3.5.
Posted: Fri 22 Jun 2012, 22:20
by Gnuxo
I don't know where to find an older version of kmplayer. Perhaps the ubuntu lucid repos?
But I found this...
http://kplayer.sourceforge.net/
It's rather out of date and it's development is dead, but it has a browser kpart and seems like it will probably work.
Posted: Sat 23 Jun 2012, 11:13
by saintless
Gnuxo wrote:I don't know where to find an older version of kmplayer. Perhaps the ubuntu lucid repos?
I've found Kmplayer V 0.10.0c in lenny packages. You need to install 47 Mb of dependencies to make it work with KDPup. Maybe less if you have time to experiment.
I'm uploading an archive with all needed packages in:
http://www.mydrive.ch/
username:
guest@saintless
password:
download
The archive is:
kmplayer0.10.0c_plus_depend.tar.gz
After the installation KDE will give you an error:
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could not find mime type
application/octet stream
It works anyway but to solve this mime type problem you just have to go to home (/root) directory, show hidden files -> .kde/share/mimelnk/application. Open
octet-stream.desktop file with geany and change the line hidden=
true to hidden=
false and reboot.
To be honest maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see the point of replacing flash with much more hungry for RAM and CPU resources application like Kmplayer.
Anyway you can have it working on KDPup-484.
Posted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 02:15
by Gnuxo
I wonder if Kplayer is less resource hungry then Kmplayer. VLC has a browser plugin, and there's a new version of Xine-ui and plugin as well.
Anyway, for youtube, there is Minitunes.
What browser is going to be default?
Posted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 04:43
by saintless
Gnuxo wrote:What browser is going to be default?
KDPup-484 full version has Firefox 3.6.23 (old version but works fine and uses less RAM than the new ones), Dillo2 and Konqueror 3.5.9. You can choose any of them for default browser.
I don't know if you have noticed this, but KDPup is 2 years old puplet. There is not development intention, but in my opinion it is very good the way it is. Read the first post of this thread.
Posted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 02:02
by Eldes
I just installed on one of my pc's.
Works very well on Celeron 2.8 Ghz, 2 GB of RAM (DDRI) & Nvidia FX 5200.
The unique bad point its has old Kernel. But all the rest are really good.
Congrats for making this possible.