Lucid Puppy 5.1- A Full-Featured Compact Distro
Not amused! Now trying 510. This is even more of a lemon. Even the liveCD locks up on an entirely different box : 939/3700+ after booting to the correct opening screen.
Somewhere in all those auto-video start-up sequences are gigantic gremlins.
Maybe it all works fine for some folks but the fact that it causes one individual endless grief on a plethora of utterly different machines surely should send shudders amongst the developers? Not as if I'm new around here or constrained to one machine. This is the first Puppy to fail (like this, anyway) for me in thousands of tests. It should not be possible to experience such catastrophic failure on a 'final'. Everything points to a serious video issue. Send me a revised version with the standard manual video selections &co that have been used since inception and I'll test that before moving on.
Somewhere in all those auto-video start-up sequences are gigantic gremlins.
Maybe it all works fine for some folks but the fact that it causes one individual endless grief on a plethora of utterly different machines surely should send shudders amongst the developers? Not as if I'm new around here or constrained to one machine. This is the first Puppy to fail (like this, anyway) for me in thousands of tests. It should not be possible to experience such catastrophic failure on a 'final'. Everything points to a serious video issue. Send me a revised version with the standard manual video selections &co that have been used since inception and I'll test that before moving on.
Yes!rcrsn51 wrote:@rjbrewer: Could you check the permissions of /tmp in your full install? In particular, is the "sticky" bit set?
Will the chmod command above make Bootflash work for you?
The "chmod 1777 /tmp" worked from the full install using the iso file;
not from the live cd (sr0) without a save file though.
Fluppy lets me do it from live cd using /dev/sr0.
I don't understand "sticky bit set".
Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs
Attempting to set up email, see attached.
Otherwise very good JOB ALL... lots of hard work!
Otherwise very good JOB ALL... lots of hard work!
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Yes!
The "chmod 1777 /tmp" worked from the full install using the iso file;
not from the live cd (sr0) without a save file though.
Fluppy lets me do it from live cd using /dev/sr0.
I don't understand "sticky bit set".
I was able to boot the live CD with pfix=ram and then change the permissions on /tmp. One way to see is to right-click on the /tmp folder in Rox and select Properties. I think the 1 before the 777 sets the sticky bit.
Lupu 510 frugal with acer timelinex 5820tg using intel graphics and intel driver.. So far I have made Lupu more laptop friendly. CPU freq activated ok. I compiled kernel module to switch my ATI off because it uses almost 50 % power consumption even without using it. It worked. So battery time is almost doubled with that.
Next to get acpi working and battery status, suspend to ram possibly working, would need patching the kernel and compiling it afterwards to get modified acpi.ec loaded.
My previous attempt was not so successful, only console state worked. X didnt start ok. All those KMS and other graphics settings were too redundant in the menuconfig for me.
So devx and kernel sources loaded ok. I have still problem with successful downloading, only every 2. - 3. download MD5 sum is ok.
No complaints but havent used lupu to other things so far.
Great work !!!
Next to get acpi working and battery status, suspend to ram possibly working, would need patching the kernel and compiling it afterwards to get modified acpi.ec loaded.
My previous attempt was not so successful, only console state worked. X didnt start ok. All those KMS and other graphics settings were too redundant in the menuconfig for me.
So devx and kernel sources loaded ok. I have still problem with successful downloading, only every 2. - 3. download MD5 sum is ok.
No complaints but havent used lupu to other things so far.
Great work !!!
Is these good GRUB settings for Lucid 5.1?
Do I need "acpi=noirq" on my laptop any more or is that an artifact of older Puppy problems?
Is "nosmp" still recommended for single-core processors?
I added "pfix=fsck" due to prior concerns with ext2, is there any value-added to using this on an ext3 partition?
Any other recommended GRUB tweaks for Lucid 5.1?
Do I need "acpi=noirq" on my laptop any more or is that an artifact of older Puppy problems?
Is "nosmp" still recommended for single-core processors?
I added "pfix=fsck" due to prior concerns with ext2, is there any value-added to using this on an ext3 partition?
Any other recommended GRUB tweaks for Lucid 5.1?
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Puppy Linux LUPU-510RC Frugal (on /dev/sda2)
root (hd0,1)
kernel (hd0,1)/lupu-510/vmlinuz pfix=fsck PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=sda2 pupsubdir=lupu-510 acpi=noirq nosmp vga=normal
initrd (hd0,1)/lupu-510/initrd.gz
# Linux bootable partition config ends
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Booted the cd, made /tmp sticky, did the chmod..........it worked.playdayz wrote:Yes!
The "chmod 1777 /tmp" worked from the full install using the iso file;
not from the live cd (sr0) without a save file though.
Fluppy lets me do it from live cd using /dev/sr0.
I don't understand "sticky bit set".
I was able to boot the live CD with pfix=ram and then change the permissions on /tmp. One way to see is to right-click on the /tmp folder in Rox and select Properties. I think the 1 before the 777 sets the sticky bit.
Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs
Cut from my menu.lst:Any other recommended GRUB tweaks for Lucid 5.1?
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title Lupu510 usb
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Lupu510/initrd.gz
kernel /Lupu510/vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash psubdir=Lupu510 video=640x480 pfix=fsck i915.modeset=1
initrd /Lupu510/initrd.gz
Above works for me.
Yes; it's included in /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf.pemasu wrote:
i915.modeset=1 this is probably not needed with lupu anymore.
Above works for me.
The 640x480 is necessary for normal font size on shutdown.
This was a fix for problems booting into Xorg.
Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs
Because you have a "root" command, you don't need to repeat (hd0,1) in the subsequent lines.edoc wrote:Is these good GRUB settings for Lucid 5.1?Code: Select all
# Linux bootable partition config begins title Puppy Linux LUPU-510RC Frugal (on /dev/sda2) root (hd0,1) kernel (hd0,1)/lupu-510/vmlinuz pfix=fsck PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=sda2 pupsubdir=lupu-510 acpi=noirq nosmp vga=normal initrd (hd0,1)/lupu-510/initrd.gz # Linux bootable partition config ends
"pupsubdir" should be "psubdir"
Thanks!
I looked in my menu.lst and that pupsubdir error crept in several versions ago -- odd that it didn't cause any obvious problems ... or maybe it explains some things!
"acpi=noirq", "nosmp", and "pfix=fsck" should stay?
I looked in my menu.lst and that pupsubdir error crept in several versions ago -- odd that it didn't cause any obvious problems ... or maybe it explains some things!
"acpi=noirq", "nosmp", and "pfix=fsck" should stay?
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Re: Email
Has nobody else tested Sylpheed in Lupu?Minnesota wrote:Attempting to set up email, see attached.
The first time you run Sylpheed, it creates a mailbox folder called Mail in /root and a hidden .sylpheed-2.0 configuration folder. However, Lupu already contains an old configuration folder. So when you run Sylpheed the first time, it thinks that it is set up correctly. Since its Mail folder does not exist yet, you can't send or receive messages.
Deleting the configuration folder and running Sylpheed again solves the problem.
install the latest fromkilgour wrote:
What happen to fsck?
(LP5.1, LiveCD, pfix=ram,copy)# fsck
bash: command not found
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/e2fsprogs
then you can fsck
> nosmp - I never understood the point of this one.rcrsn51 wrote:edoc wrote:"acpi=noirq", "nosmp", and "pfix=fsck" should stay?
This was recommended re. something about resources dedicated to a second core when there is only one. Or so I recall.
> pfix=fsck - A bit of insurance to keep your frugal installs clean.
It was said to be needed for ext2, it is still needed for ext3?
Someone mentioned fsck was not in the default Lucid 5.1 distro.
Does that mean that I need to add it or else "pfix=fsck" is doing nothing?
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sat link is data only 256k/256k
I just ran qpets in my 206, getting the following repeated until it times out (only showing start/end instances, they are all the same), I do have browser open and ppm can download the file without problems.
Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists.
--2010-08-12 09:20:59-- http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -2.2.7.pet
Connecting to distro.ibiblio.org|152.46.7.109|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) in headers.
Retrying
......
Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists.
--2010-08-12 09:23:41-- (try:20) http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -2.2.7.pet
Connecting to distro.ibiblio.org|152.46.7.109|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) in headers.
Giving up.
regards
scsijon
sat link is data only 256k/256k
I just ran qpets in my 206, getting the following repeated until it times out (only showing start/end instances, they are all the same), I do have browser open and ppm can download the file without problems.
Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists.
--2010-08-12 09:20:59-- http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -2.2.7.pet
Connecting to distro.ibiblio.org|152.46.7.109|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) in headers.
Retrying
......
Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists.
--2010-08-12 09:23:41-- (try:20) http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -2.2.7.pet
Connecting to distro.ibiblio.org|152.46.7.109|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) in headers.
Giving up.
regards
scsijon
The GUI just crashed.
I typed "xwin" but it cycled for a minute and then failed.
There was an error message at the top of the text:
"Warning: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/"
Only Reboot works.
Once back up I selected the Browser icon (I am using Seamonkey 2.0.6) -- that resulted in everything that was open being restored -- at least everything I remember that was open!
WDYT?
I typed "xwin" but it cycled for a minute and then failed.
There was an error message at the top of the text:
"Warning: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/"
Only Reboot works.
Once back up I selected the Browser icon (I am using Seamonkey 2.0.6) -- that resulted in everything that was open being restored -- at least everything I remember that was open!
WDYT?
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deprecated configs
edoc,
I get the same error ms on every boot. Doesn't seem to cause any real problems, and apparently was left over from some Asian code from the grammar.
Doesn't "deprecated config" sound like something always served on holidays but never eaten, like fruitcake?
Perhaps you simply had too many things open at once?
I get the same error ms on every boot. Doesn't seem to cause any real problems, and apparently was left over from some Asian code from the grammar.
Doesn't "deprecated config" sound like something always served on holidays but never eaten, like fruitcake?
Perhaps you simply had too many things open at once?
Re: The Next Step Towards Lucid Puppy 5.1 - Lupu-510 RC2
I've a question to ask on this--gjuhasz wrote: I think even RC2 is good enough and has enough eye-candy elements to make Linux fans and newbies be happy.
The only issue (for me) is its poor video compatibility.
...
3. Maybe this is for ancient machines, maybe for my 256 MB Toshiba Tecra 8000 only. Mplayer produces blue screen during "playing" most of the streaming codec test files in this collection:
http://www.codectest.com/codectest/stre ... ectest.zip
It is strange that the same Tecra plays most of them well under Wary 030 (there are jerky effects in some cases but at least the screen of mplayer is alive.) Note that I also test Lupu in 256 MB virtual environment (VMware, VirtualBox) and there is no "blue screen" there - so this is not caused by low memory.
Again, this is the only annoying problem - one can ask that "all what elder puppies can play, why the newest 510 cannot"?
What video card? (Try
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lspci | grep VGA
Wary uses an older Xorg, which works better with some old cards.
If it's Intel 8xx or 7xx, those are known for trouble with new X versions (including the one Ubuntu 10.04 uses).[/code]