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Is the source code available somewhere? I'm not in a current Puppy at the moment and I'd like to try it anyway. And I just plain like compiling my own software

Nathan

Nathan F wrote:I'm not in a current Puppy at the moment

Where have you been! Youve missed all the "fun"!

I've been all over. Really. Which is part of the problem because I'm almost never home.

Nathan

Nathan F wrote:Is the source code available somewhere? I'm not in a current Puppy at the moment and I'd like to try it anyway. And I just plain like compiling my own software

Nathan

Hi Nathan hope you like patching files
ftp://updates.redhat.com/enterprise/4AS ... l4.src.rpm
after you work out that mess, then What I did was compile the latest 2 series and 3 series the same way, then swap around things and see what works best after its been compiled. lol
ttuuxxx

Travel is good, it "broadens the mind", and gives you a chance to see what people need from Grafpup...I assume grafpup has been with you on your travels.

Your experience and aesthetic eye would be of great benefit to puppy.

yeah, right

he was thinking about grafpup, exactly.

Back on topic, Yesterday I installed Firepup on Upup 4.71 (Woof alpha 7) and it is working great.

I had been running Firefox 3.0.8 from the Ubuntu repository and I much prefer your Firepup.......Installed Firefox, wasn't to be found in the menu. Drug icon to the desktop and at least FF worked. Ran "fix menus", restarted x, etc. still no FF in the menu.

On the other hand, Installed Firepup, restarted x and everything is in the correct location and working. Much simpler install and seems just as fast or faster than FF 3.0.8.

Ttuuxxx, thanks for Firepup......

I don't know if you are still working on this but I got an error after I ran it saying that adblock plus was not compatible with ff 1.5.

Did you delete your /root/.mozilla folder? It seems as if the Adblock is from one of your previous firefox installs (happened to me too BTW).
See the first post of this thread.

Cheers, Christian

hmm, that might be it. I guess I thought adblock plus came with Firepup.

Hey Ttuuxxx,

I've decided to come back to Firepup after wandering around trying different FF versions. Still like it Thanks for adding the search engines, especially the forum search, it's essential, maybe even life and death

2 suggestions, you can take 'em or leave 'em, (though I suppose you would've done that without my permission )

1. Would you consider making the search bar slightly longer, a bit more like FF3?

2. Is there an easy way to enable the user to add or remove search engines?

Thanks Ttuuxxx for making Firepup, excellent resource

Battleshooter

battleshooter wrote:Hey Ttuuxxx,


1. Would you consider making the search bar slightly longer, a bit more like FF3? yes in the future I will, I haven't the time right now, kind of streched with 2&5 series

2. Is there an easy way to enable the user to add or remove search engines? yes go to usr/lib/firepup <-- which ever version and open the folder, then look for the folder caller "searchplugins" open that and delete away or right click on one and open it as text, probably better using ones I provided, I made them simple, other ones add extra stuff for site ranking etc. Then just alter/change the web location and give it a shot. If you have a site in mind, post the link and I'll see what I can do.

Thanks Ttuuxxx for making Firepup, excellent resource

Battleshooter

ps your welcome
ttuuxxx

christian wrote:Did you delete your /root/.mozilla folder? It seems as if the Adblock is from one of your previous firefox installs (happened to me too BTW).
See the first post of this thread.

Cheers, Christian

Happens to the best of us mate [/quote]

Thanks for the reply Ttuuxxx

The sites I had in mind was

Wiki

Youtube

and

Trademe (New Zealand version of Ebay)

But I don't really want to give you more to do so I'll have ago at adding them myself and if it doesn't work out... I guess I'll come looking to you for help Thanks man

Battleshooter

battleshooter wrote:Thanks for the reply Ttuuxxx

The sites I had in mind was

Wiki

Youtube

and

Trademe (New Zealand version of Ebay)

But I don't really want to give you more to do so I'll have ago at adding them myself and if it doesn't work out... I guess I'll come looking to you for help Thanks man

Battleshooter

no problem, oh by the way yes I know about Trademe, I made a account with them a few years back and once in a blue moon buy stuff from them, first I always ask the seller if they will ship to Australia, 9/10 time they do , Still get the news letter about 3-4 times a year.
Well keep me informed and also I think there's one already made for en.wikipedia.org
ttuuxxx

I know you can bash me for this as much as you want BUT....

FireFox 3 is FRELLING CRAP ON WINODWS LET ALONE ON LINUX SYSTEMS..
I use IE 6 over FireFox 3 thats how much FireFox 3 sucks

I wish ttuuxxx could rebuild FireFox 1.5 for windows...
AND that part Im not joking about...
I use Opera 9.64 on linux and windows systems if I need to use something other than Opera then I use IE6(on windows) not firefox3 or seamonkey or Knoquorer on linux..

ttuuxxx if people need something a little better than AbiWord then although it would be a big job to compile you might look into Open office BUT compile it without the java component that should increase spead, keep compatability, maybe put a flip switch(?) or plug-in for java requirements that can be turned off..

90% of the slow down now in browsers and in office apps is due to the heavy reliance on JAVA.. version 2+ of Open Office could be compiled without the java component.. I dont know about the 3+ versions(memory requirement 128megs of ram for OOv3+ only).

I would do it myself except i am compiler incompitent...but removing the java component may or may not reduce the size of open office by upto 25% in size and increase speed dramatically
another idea might be to use OOv2.5 but add file associations from the newer versions so its still microsoft compatible...

I wont kid you its a big ask and a frelling big job...But ttuuxxx you have the uncanny ability to modify and retrofit things that just (most would say shouldnt be possible lol)

Mind you so does Mikeb lol find out mikeb can make grub4dos dance lol

Have you tried sinply turning Java off?
TOOLS>OPTIONS; expand "OpenOffice.org," click on Java and uncheck "Use a Java runtime environment."

There is a "light" version of OO 1.1 for Puppy, idk about OO 2 or 3.

Browsers in Windows - try FF 3.5 beta and then just wait a couple weeks for the final. Safari for Windows got a good review for its speed.

For windows I would say google chrome 2, its just been released and its way faster than opera or ff3, with speed test its nuts, but it doesn't have all the plugins etc, but if you want a fast windows browser I would check that out first, next there are other windows browsers that use IE backends,

My choice would be
chrome 2
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/B ... rome.shtml
Advant (ie based)
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/B ... wser.shtml
Seamonkey2
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/B ... nkey.shtml
K-Meleon
http://www.softpedia.com/get/PORTABLE-S ... leon.shtml
Enigma
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/B ... wser.shtml

as for Open office without Java, well you could use the cutdown versions from series 2, they are really small and Java free around 60MB pets around 1/3 of todays versions, also in the forums software section there's koffice is which is a bit smaller.
If I ever get some free time, I'll look at open office, I did rip it apart once just to see how much I could remove and keep writer working, due tothe fact I have no use for the other applications that come bundled, I even went as far as contacting Open Office and asked them to make a package with just writer included, they said the package was too deeply mixed. I also informed them they should make a browser plugin for firefox, really if they can make a wysiwyg plugin for firefox, why couldn't they make a 500kb wordprocessor plugin and reuse the rest of firefox, like built in spellcheck etc. Really would be a no brainer for a skilled FF coder.
ttuuxxx

Have you tried sinply turning Java off?
TOOLS>OPTIONS; expand "OpenOffice.org," click on Java and uncheck "Use a Java runtime environment."

ooo I always thought OO was a java applet rather than used for certain functions...Yer live and learn...I might try it now...java brings me out in an itchy rash.

@Cretsiah..I am well versed in the art of bodge and tart.

Ok back on topic.....
I had a mysterious crash saving files using firefox 1.5 and 2 when flash 9 is installed...only on older puppies. A revelation made me realise that it was the gtk2 file dialog causing the fit.....Firefox comes with its own file browser dialog....and when I switched to that the crash vanished..I did a small native celebration dance.

Now the built in dialog is also far less gloopy (1000 times faster apparently) and straightforward compared to the gtk thing...firefox 2 set ui.allow_platform_file_picker to false...done.
Firefox 1.5 needed this cludge but it works....

You can change it back to the built-in filepicker by modifying the following in
nsFilePicker.js which is located in the app's components directory. After
making the change you have to re-register the components which is easily
accomplished by disabling then re-enabling an extension and then restarting.
Installing or un-installing an extension will also force a component
registration. #(sic or updating)
code:
compMgr.registerFactoryLocation(FILEPICKER_CID,
"FilePicker JS Component",
//@line 278 *snip*
"",
//@line 280 *snip*
fileSpec,
location,
type);

TO

Code:
compMgr.registerFactoryLocation(FILEPICKER_CID,
"FilePicker JS Component",
//@line 278 *snip*
FILEPICKER_CONTRACTID,
//@line 280 *snip*
fileSpec,
location,
type);

Now perhaps firepup could included this desirable option...(unless it has already then just point and laugh) This also applies to seamonkey and thunderbird

regards

mike

Been a way from Puppy for a bit, thought I'd check in.
FirePup rules! Love it, thanks ttuuxxx.
Still have a problem uploading pics to Photobucket with it, but at least it doesn't crash the browser like Seamonkey used to.