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Posted: Thu 13 Dec 2012, 16:24
by backi
Hi npierce !

Installed the Service pack .

Problems solved !

Thanks

Posted: Thu 13 Dec 2012, 16:45
by npierce
backi,

Great! You're welcome. :)

Posted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 11:28
by BarryK
artsown wrote:Barry, it looked to me like the code segment has a typo and a
missing fi instruction. Note the $PS I put in and the added fi in
the below code segment:

##w468 rox may not start old hardware, try again... 120517 bring this back...

$PS="`ps`"
if [ "`echo "$PS" | grep 'ROX\-Filer'`" = "" ];then
if ! busybox pidof ROX-Filer;then
touch /tmp/roxfilerstartupproblem #see /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d
sleep 3
fi
if ! busybox pidof ROX-Filer;then #check again.
rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
fi
fi

I first tried this with sleep 3 as above and eventually changed it to
sleep 1. I've done a total of 17 hard machine reboots so far with
no black screens. I've counted seconds from the last text message
(starting x server) until a gui appears during startup. It has varied
from a low of 6 seconds to 31 seconds but most of the time it's
21 seconds (even with sleep 1).

BTW, I'm a old engineer-programmer who knows BASIC and
assembly language but I'm unfamiliar with the scripting language
used here ... just for your info. It appears that fi acts as a END IF
and one was missing.

I've mentioned before that all my test machines are similar, The
one I used for this test is a DELL Dimension 2350 having a 1.8 ghz
Pentium 4 and 768 meg RAM.

Art
Art,
The code was:

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##w468 rox may not start old hardware, try again... 120517 bring this back...
##PS="`ps`"
##if [ "`echo "$PS" | grep 'ROX\-Filer'`" = "" ];then
#if ! busybox pidof ROX-Filer;then
# touch /tmp/roxfilerstartupproblem #see /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d
# sleep 0.5
# if ! busybox pidof ROX-Filer;then #check again.
#  rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
# fi
#fi
...and you should only have removed the "#" from column-one, in which case all is ok, no extra "fi" required.

That is good that no black screens, however in Service Pack 5.4.2.2 I have tried a different approach to try and fix it.
Would you mind putting the comments back in, in file /root/.xintrc, then install the SP, then do the multiple reboots thing again!

Service Pack 5.4.2.2:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00065

...if you don't want to run the PPM, just click to download and install the PET.

If the SP fixes the black screen, good, otherwise I will implement the fix that worked for you.

Posted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 12:10
by 666philb
i compiled the rtl2832u driver for precise puppy, it's needed for various dvb usb devices
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=62408

Posted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 17:57
by artsown
Ok Barry. Deleted the old .2fs to start fresh. Started Precise 5.4.2
PAE and installed your 5422 upgrade. Did the save file for a fresh
frugal and began doing machine reboots. No black screens in
twenty reboots. Looks good. As I've said, the frequency of black
screens was about 1 in 5 so 20 in a row seems convincing that
you've fixed the problem. It was nice to see a consistent 13
seconds from the last startup screen message to the GUI. Has
the feeling of solidity now.

The latest versions of Slacko and Racy also have the black screen
problem on my machines, BTW. Just a reminder :)

I've mentioned this more than once on the forum but while I have
your attention I'll mention again that the latest versions of Precise,
Racy and Slacko have given me no end of wireless headaches
whereas Slacko 5.3.1, Wary, Lucid and Luci THD are all OK in this
regard. I can give particulars to anyone interested in digging
into this and fixing it. Since my Linksys wireless-G WMP54G PCI
adapter is probably still fairly widely used, I suppose many
potential Puppy users have been driven off by this issue.

Art

Posted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 18:46
by pemasu
Digging into it should be easy. Fixing might be more tricky.

In console: pmodemdiag

Post here the created tar ball from the /root

Posted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 19:25
by artsown
Ok pemasu, here's the tarball created in Precise. I'd be happy
to fetch them from Racy and Slacko as well, if you wish.

Art

Posted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 20:42
by pemasu
artsown.
What I can tell. You are using rt2500pci kernel driver which is the appropriate and it has been loaded.

DESCRIPTION: Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2500 Wireless 802.11bg
VENDOR: 1814 DEVICE: 0201
KERNEL MODULE: rt2500pci

There is error message in kernel messages:

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phy0 -> rt2500pci_set_device_state: Error - Device failed to enter state 1 (-16).
which means that there is some power management problem. That message can be erased by executing command:

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iwconfig wlan0 power off
I dont know if that has any help with your connection problem but at least it eradicates that power management bug.

Otherwise...I couldnt find anything wrong with my skills. Also...searching with google didnt give any insight atm.

Posted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 21:47
by artsown
Thanks pemasu. I did what you suggested on all three of the
troublesome pups. We shall see ....

Art

Posted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 22:43
by futwerk
new background, plus mobile.

Posted: Sat 15 Dec 2012, 03:20
by bigpup
Barry,

Not exactly a Precise issue, but may be an overall issue with Puppy.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82973

Posted: Sun 16 Dec 2012, 14:06
by artsown
Puppy isn't quite up to snuff yet but he's getting better so I gave him
a face lift:

[img]home.epix.net/~artnpeg/pscreen.png
[/img]

Many more reboots and no black screens. It even seems like my
wireless problems have diminished. But wireless still isn't as solid as
it is on earlier pups.

Art

Posted: Sun 16 Dec 2012, 18:20
by Argolance
Hello,
I just finished an iso based on Puppy precise 5.4.1. I don't really understand how these releases numbers work indeed (big gaps!)... :oops:
My (silly) question: How could I upgrade Puppy precise 5.4.1 to Puppy 5.4.2? Is there a pet package? If yes, where could I download it?

Thank you!
Cordialement.

Posted: Sun 16 Dec 2012, 19:32
by artsown
Argolance, there is a explanation of the use of delta files here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=52232

and the ones you are interested in are here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precis ... elta_files

Art

Posted: Sun 16 Dec 2012, 23:05
by ASRI éducation
Argolance wrote:Hello,
I just finished an iso based on Puppy precise 5.4.1. I don't really understand how these releases numbers work indeed (big gaps!)... :oops:
My (silly) question: How could I upgrade Puppy precise 5.4.1 to Puppy 5.4.2? Is there a pet package? If yes, where could I download it?

Thank you!
Cordialement.
Bonjour Argolance,
Si tu as besoin d'aide, je peux éventuellement de donner un modeste coup de main.
Je prépare la prochaine ASRI Edu (elle sera basée sur Puppy Precise).
Actuellement, j'ai pour base la 5.4.2 (avec les updates).
Pour ce qui est de mettre à jour la 5.4.1, il va effectivement falloir utiliser le fichier delta car BK a effectué plusieurs modifications sur woof.
Ou alors, tu utilises la dernière version de Precise en ajoutant uniquement tes modifications.
Cordialement,

Posted: Mon 17 Dec 2012, 02:09
by BarryK
npierce wrote:This is a continuation of a Precise 5.4.2 discussion started on the Precise 5.4 thread.

(By the way, to avoid confusion, does the name of the Precise 5.4 thread (currently named "Precise Puppy 5.4 and 5.4.2") need to be corrected, and should this thread -- the real Precise 5.4.2 thread -- be made sticky?)
[url=http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=669830#669830]On Sat 08 Dec 2012[/url], backi wrote:During process of downloading from repo the whole letters which are indicating download suddenly changed to lttles squares ,became unreadable .
Hi backi,

Although there are a number of reports of the symptoms you are experiencing (text characters turning into little squares when installing a package) from folks running in PUPMODE 2 (full install), this is the first I have seen for PUPMODE 13.

Barry has a fix for users running PUPMODE 2, but it applies only to that mode.

Since many things could cause the text characters to be corrupted, your problem may be something totally unrelated to the problem PUPMODE 2 users ran into. But because it happens during package installation (as was the case for the other problem), it could well be related to the other problem.

That said, I have not yet found anything in the code that would explain what you are seeing in PUPMODE 13.

I have no experience with PUPMODE 13, so may not be able to help with this. But I can suggest a few items of information that you could provide which might help someone else figure this out.

1. The problem experienced by PUPMODE 2 users also caused the desktop icons to change. Did this also happen for you?

2. Do you remember what package you were installing when you ran into this problem?

3. What output do you get for these commands?

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ls -ld /lib/i386-linux-gnu
ls -ld /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu
(This will tell us if those items are still symbolic links, as they should be, or if the installation of the package changed them to directories or removed them entirely.)

4. What output do you get for this command?

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grep -E "PUP_LAYER|SAVE_LAYER" /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE
(These variables are used by the installation script, so we need to see if they are set correctly.)
Try SP 5.4.2.3.

Posted: Mon 17 Dec 2012, 02:11
by BarryK
666philb wrote:i compiled the rtl2832u driver for precise puppy, it's needed for various dvb usb devices
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=62408
Thanks, it's in SP 5.4.2.3.

Posted: Mon 17 Dec 2012, 02:12
by BarryK
artsown wrote:Ok Barry. Deleted the old .2fs to start fresh. Started Precise 5.4.2
PAE and installed your 5422 upgrade. Did the save file for a fresh
frugal and began doing machine reboots. No black screens in
twenty reboots. Looks good. As I've said, the frequency of black
screens was about 1 in 5 so 20 in a row seems convincing that
you've fixed the problem. It was nice to see a consistent 13
seconds from the last startup screen message to the GUI. Has
the feeling of solidity now.
Good!

Posted: Mon 17 Dec 2012, 02:14
by BarryK
Service Pack 5.4.2.3 has been released:

http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00069

Posted: Mon 17 Dec 2012, 15:28
by BarryK
Precise Puppy 5.4.3 has been released:

http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00070