Fluppy 013

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don570 · #1641 Post by **don570** » Sat 26 Feb 2011, 21:36

I've had a lot of trouble with the nouveau driver for nvidia cards.

I've been booting up with pfix=ram to do testing work
and I get endless travail.

I think I have a procedure that works now.

During bootup procedure I choose xorgwizard.

I click test video.-----> I see that refresh rates are left blank.
That is bad sign.

I next choose to edit xorg.conf . -----> I change nouveau to nv
and save file.

I do video test again and a nice neat dialog box now
comes on the screen with the refresh rates filled in properly
but it says I am still using 'nouveau' (probably a bug in xorgwizard)

I can now proceed to boot up in the normal fashion
and everything is fine. glxgears works faster as well.

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pupclockset is hidden away

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pschedule should be upgraded to version 1.0 and
placed in the menu.

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I was forced to downgrade gparted to version 7.0
to get a version that would show French in the menus.

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starhawk · #1642 Post by **starhawk** » Mon 28 Feb 2011, 02:24

Jemimah, you should probably be aware that Fluppy 013 does not seem to work with my HP Pavilion s7220n. Yes, it is a desktop system, *but* it uses a Celeron M (laptop-type CPU), so it /should/ work...

FWIW, Fluppy 011 boots just fine. Haven't tried 012, tho.

On a partially related topic, please check your PMs at your earliest possible convenience...

Roy · #1643 Post by **Roy** » Tue 01 Mar 2011, 05:02

jemimah,

I finally got around to loading Fluppy13 onto my Mini-9 netbook (frugal) and... wow! Connected straight away to my rooted Android cell phone -- with the Broadcom wl module as the default! That's terrific!

Buttttttt.... then I turned off my cell phone and went to a wireless hotspot -- and Fluppy13 was determined to connect to my missing cell phone wifi (and nothing else). Finally deleted my cell phone's wireless profile and Fluppy connected to networks that were actually available.

I generated a before and after diagnostics, if you are interested in seeing them. Just PM me if they might be of interest to you. One other thing that I did -- told Frisbee to ignore my ethernet connection -- shouldn't/didn't cause any problems with wireless, I would think.

-Roy

edoc · #1644 Post by **edoc** » Tue 01 Mar 2011, 05:21

Fluppy 13 loaded fine on the ACER Aspire 5535-5452 AMD Athlon dual-core 64 laptop w/ ATI graphics.

Also looks good on the Samsung NB30 Netbook.

tinker · #1645 Post by **tinker** » Tue 01 Mar 2011, 07:26

The subject says it all - fluppy 013 runs fine on my Lenovo S10e. I had previously used version 010. It feels like a big leap, especially in terms of application updates and many new utilities to tweak settings. I have several other puppy (not fluppy) installations which are much older, and I can see that I need to bring them up to a more current level to get similar goodness.

Great stuff, Jemimah.

edoc · #1646 Post by **edoc** » Wed 02 Mar 2011, 20:48

I don't see anywhere in the BIOS of my ACER Aspire 5535 laptop to do make the following adjustment - is this supposed to be done via an app after boot?

Is there such an app in (or for) Fluppy, please?

To reduce the heating
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1-go to Power Options
2-Select Change Plan Setting
3-Select Change advanced power settings
4-Select Processor power management
5-select The maximum processor power
6-thin change the tow numbers of 100% to 50%
(you can make that for all Three plans)
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- that’s make processor works very good in just 50% of it power all time
- and you Will not feel a great change in performance

CLAM01 · #1647 Post by **CLAM01** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 01:09

edoc,

Look on your fluppy013 desktop for a 'control center' icon (top row). Click that and you should find "power options", "change..." etc. there.

CLAM01 · #1648 Post by **CLAM01** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 01:23

In applications where CPU temperature triggers a BIOS switch to start fans, when running Puppy linux (all flavors I have tried so far) you have to boot your puppy, run until the CPU temp is high enough for the BIOS to start the fan(s), then reboot so the BIOS will start the fan(s).

Puppies don't trigger BIOSs to start fans (in my experience).

Running with CPU frequency scaling lowers running temperatures, so temps won't go so high, and will rise slower, but if you have fans, as in laptops, you need to do double-boots to start them.

Note that fans will start when the BIOS gets a critical temp signal from the CPU, but critical temp is usually up around 90C.

edoc · #1649 Post by **edoc** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 02:01

CLAM01 wrote:edoc,

Look on your fluppy013 desktop for a 'control center' icon (top row). Click that and you should find "power options", "change..." etc. there.

There is no icon for "control center".

There is "setup".

Is "control center" in the generic fluppy013 install?

edoc · #1650 Post by **edoc** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 02:07

BIOS - the fan - Puppy - ACER

The ACER Aspire 5535 had a defective cooling system for which ACER has steadfastly refused to provide a recall. (I don't buy anything from ACER any more.)

One may clean out the cooling system and replace the cooked thermal paste to reduce the rapid overheating but it does not last as the system is simply too wimpy to handle the power.

The fan runs continuously, but even mounted on a large laptop cooler it overheats, and under stress - even with an external fan blowing across the laptop and the laptop cooler - it overheats!

Turning down the operation of the laptop by 50% is the only way to stabilize it - meaning that the cooling system was under-engineered by 50% when it was designed and manufactured and sold.

So, those of us foolish enough to trust ACER paid for power we cannot use. Sigh.

Sage · #1651 Post by **Sage** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 21:15

Did someone say it before? The k/b setting doesn't work for the UK-GB. The '@' symbol has to be interchanged with ' " ' and v.v. Other anomalies, too. Where's the pound sterling!

peebee · #1652 Post by **peebee** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 21:37

Sage wrote:Did someone say it before? The k/b setting doesn't work for the UK-GB. The '@' symbol has to be interchanged with ' " ' and v.v. Other anomalies, too. Where's the pound sterling!

Works just fine in this part of the UK

!"£$%^&*()_+{}:@~<>?

edoc · #1653 Post by **edoc** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 23:20

CLAM01 wrote:edoc,

Look on your fluppy013 desktop for a 'control center' icon (top row). Click that and you should find "power options", "change..." etc. there.

Is it possible that I need to load the DevX?

DevX: http://puppeee.com/files/puppeee4.4rc2/eee_devx_514.sfs
Note: the devx must be renamed to flp_devx_013.sfs

edoc · #1654 Post by **edoc** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 23:46

Just added DevX - no joy - still no "control center" or "power options".

This is a Frugal install, does that matter?

Is there something else I need to add, please?

edoc · #1655 Post by **edoc** » Fri 04 Mar 2011, 01:14

Is what you are talking about based on this utility?

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=2409

CLAM01 · #1656 Post by **CLAM01** » Fri 04 Mar 2011, 03:55

Hi edoc,

Sorry to not be able to get back eaerlier on this. I posted from another puppy and from memory. I had to get back to get my fluppy13 disk to check what I was remembering.

The control panel icon is called 'setup' on the desktop. In the menu, and on the app it is 'control panel'. On the control panel you go to system, in the top row and to acpi-control settings.

The offering is meagre. Fluppy starts cpu-frequency control automatically, or should, so the control panel offers only the powersave, performance and turbo options.

I would try the 'powersave', which should keep your CPU frequency lower through a wider range. As I recall, from other applications, 'turbo' boosts to full CPU scale at a low percentage of use, 'performance'boosts at about 50% use, and 'powersave' doesn't boost until you are using about 90% of your cpu. With a lot going on, with a browser or two open and so on, the 50% is easy to exceed. Note, you can also change these settings by right-clicking on the lightning icon in the tray and then selecting.

Fluppy has a nice cpu temp aplet, but does not provide frequency info. But if you click menu, system and hardware information you will get a window with items down the left. click 'processor' to get your processor frequency info.in the right panel. You should see your processor model and then @ and your top GHz frequency, followed by your controlled frequency in MHz (thousands instead of ones).

The MHz should be what starting CPU frequency scaling in other puppies gives you. You can monitor using the hardware info window in a virtual desktop, to see when the MHz number(s) go to full speed. That will be when your system starts to heat.

edoc · #1657 Post by **edoc** » Fri 04 Mar 2011, 04:05

Thanks!

It has been set to Powersave - still overheats.

System Info - Hardware - Processor:

AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dial-Core QL-64 2100.09MHz
AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dial-Core QL-64 2100.09MHz

Sage · #1658 Post by **Sage** » Fri 04 Mar 2011, 07:36

Works just fine in this part of the UK

Thanks for that - very interesting. I am using a FULL install on a desktop box, as always. How about you. I do realise that this is neither the preferred modus operandi, nor HW.

peebee · #1659 Post by **peebee** » Fri 04 Mar 2011, 07:44

Sage wrote:
Works just fine in this part of the UK
Thanks for that - very interesting. I am using a FULL install on a desktop box, as always. How about you. I do realise that this is neither the preferred modus operandi, nor HW.

Hi Sage
The post was from a frugal install on my HP550 laptop.
I've also got Fluppy running frugal install OK on my desktop as well and the UK keyboard is fine there as well !"£$%^&*()_+{}:@~<>?

You have presumably gone into Setup (on desktop) - System - Mouse/Keyboard wizard and tried resetting?

Cheers
Peter

Sage · #1660 Post by **Sage** » Fri 04 Mar 2011, 10:51

You have presumably gone into Setup...

Oh yes, many times, with log-out, soft and hard resets!
The Keyboard Wizard is showing 'UK', and it's in the /etc/... location, too, so there must be something wrong with the code rather than my kit. Frugal must have set the .sfs permanently whilst the FULL install fails to do ??? Symlinks and suchlike are definitely not my bag! Maybe our Jewel will offer more pearls of wisdom?!

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