Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

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clarf · #161 Post by **clarf** » Tue 09 Jun 2009, 15:48

I´m making some pets for Puppy 2 series, these are not intended to be official pets, the idea is to make a wider software selection for 2 series and attract more people to them.

For now I´m working in Puppy 2.16 to make some pets:
- Icewm 1.3.3 works fine in 2.16 (adding some custom themes, I´ll test later in 2.14).
- Smplayer (can´t compile in 2.16, seems a glibc library problem.. I´ll try 4.1.2 and then 2.16...)
- MUGEN - 2D player system for Windows made by Elecbyte, works fine in 2.14 (adding some custom chars, backgrounds and music).

Should I create a new a new Forum post for these ones ttuuxxx?

UPDATE:
Finally Smplayer is working in 4.1.2. I had to untar a precompiled .deb package, then check files, dependencies and install qt4. After that added smplayer executable inside for a Portable version, removed unnecessary files, made pet, etc.

BUT It dont´work in Puppy 2.16 wrong GLIBC... dead end.

#162 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 09 Jun 2009, 16:24

clarf wrote:I´m making some pets for Puppy 2 series, these are not intended to be official pets, the idea is to make a wider software selection for 2 series and attract more people to them.

For now I´m working in Puppy 2.16 to make some pets:
- Icewm 1.3.3 works fine in 2.16 (adding some custom themes, I´ll test later in 2.14).
- Smplayer (can´t compile in 2.16, seems a glibc library problem.. I´ll try 4.1.2 and then 2.16...)
- MUGEN - 2D player system for Windows made by Elecbyte, works fine in 2.14 (adding some custom chars, backgrounds and music).

Should I create a new a new Forum post for these ones ttuuxxx?

well you won't be able to mix all the packages together, I would wait a bit and see how this new glibc works out, if it does work out right, then yes a new software section would be nice, but this 2 series I'm working is nothing llike the older 2 series, its more like a 3 series-6series, lol because some of the backend packages are newer than the 5 series.
Just recompiled glib

lol man I hope all this work pans out for 2.5 to work properly.
ttuuxxx

mikeb · #163 Post by **mikeb** » Tue 09 Jun 2009, 21:16

You really need to try this........
already used it for firefox suffering with flash 9..

fromhttp://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... 60#1783468

You can change it back to the built-in filepicker by modifying the following in nsFilePicker.js which is located in the app's components directory. After making the change you have to re-register the components which is easily accomplished by disabling then re-enabling an extension and then restarting. Installing or un-installing an extension will also force a component registration.
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    compMgr.registerFactoryLocation(FILEPICKER_CID,
                                    "FilePicker JS Component",
//@line 278 *snip*
                                    "",
//@line 280 *snip*
                                    fileSpec,
                                    location,
                                    type);
to
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  compMgr.registerFactoryLocation(FILEPICKER_CID,
                                    "FilePicker JS Component",
//@line 278 *snip*
                                    FILEPICKER_CONTRACTID,
//@line 280 *snip*
                                    fileSpec,
                                    location,
                                    type);

provides stability with flash 9/file saving in seamonkey..
tested in seamonkey 1.04, puppy 2.12 (standard) flash 9.124.

There must be a problem with that version of mozilla/gecko.
By the way plenty of utf-8 errors but no crashes..which gave a segmentation fault anyway with the unmodded setup.
Saves days of updating glibs and gtk that I previously tried

mike

OlddogNewtricks · #164 Post by **OlddogNewtricks** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 09:07

some good news
Along with the latest flash & glibc-2.5 I Installed firefox 3.0.10 with a symlink from libflashplayer.so in the seamonkey plugins folder to the plugins folder in firefox. As with seamonkey, flash gave no problems.

some bad/good news
Installed firepup-0.04.3.pet (firefox 3 not installed). All went well until I went to edit preferences. Clicking on certain tabs in 'privacy' or the content tab froze firepup. I killed it with KP then carried on anyway to check flash with a symlink as above. youtube full screen was fine but disney.com didn't like the 'flash block' extension, when disabled all was well again.

If any of this is usefull then great.

#165 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 11:33

hi guys ok here's the goodnews, I managed to get GlibC-2.5 working on 2.14.1X and make a iso of it, it boots and seamonkey didn't crash where it used to

I'll upload it and let ya's test it a bit.

ttuuxxx

#166 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 12:13

Ok guys here it is , with Glibc-2.5 please test it and I'll start testing the Devx
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... /214X2.iso
you should be able to use most of series 3 apps now.
ttuuxxx

#167 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 13:24

Guys, Guys, Guys this is amazing, I just installed the latest Firefox 3.5b4 it needed only Dbus and dbusglib, so I downloaded the slackware 12 version, and boom, splat, bag, zap, lol its perfect, it even past my theme/scroll bar test that every version of 4 series failed, very badly. Firefox 3 is up and running like a dream, I went to youtube and fullscreen worked, I went to sourceforge and it didn't crash with flash included

How freakin good is that. ??
Its better than Upup with firefox, its about the same as Dpup which ran perfect with firefox.
I also still have Seamonkey working

I used /lib to install firefox and not /usr/lib that way they both can live in the same os.
Now here's the tough question, do you want firefox as the main browser or Seamonkey ?
or do you want a firefox pet package? that installs in /lib ? so it doesn't kill Seamonkey.
ttuuxxx

tubby · #168 Post by **tubby** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 13:30

I would like to see you use Firefox, i have downloaded and use it in all of my puppy versions.
I wonder whether Firebird would also be an option?.

#169 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 13:33

Wow again, lol I just checked updates for firefox and it updated to a even newer one that wasn't on the website, it must of been just a small file, because it was updated in like 2 seconds, heres what the screen said
"Thank you for helping test this preview of Firefox 3.5! As a member of our beta user audience, you have received this update to help us test this preview before it becomes the Firefox 3.5 release candidate. You will be updated to the release candidate automatically when it is released."
ttuuxxx

techtype · #170 Post by **techtype** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 13:40

ttuuxxx wrote: Now here's the tough question, do you want firefox as the main browser or Seamonkey ?
or do you want a firefox pet package? that installs in /lib ? so it doesn't kill Seamonkey.
ttuuxxx

Firefox, of course!

raffy · #171 Post by **raffy** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 13:49

Firefox! Great work there, ttuuxxx.

EDIT: Using the build now, great feeling of Web2.0 with the light blue theme. Nice fonts all over and snappy - this is what to expect from 2 series, only it's much better-looking.

droope · #172 Post by **droope** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 13:59

Hey guys, if I copy over all libs I have in /lib/ in 4.12 to 2.16, and by the work of god I don't kill the OS, could I install 4.12 software?

I'm guessing no, but... It's been too long since I ask a stupid question

(a day or so)

If it could be done, it'd be interesting.

Cheers,
Droope

#173 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 14:03

Ok guys I'll build a 3.5 firefox version

shouldn't take to long

It won't have a email client, but I guess you guys could install simple main or thunderbird which is easy enough, or maybe something from the repo, haven't tried 3 series packages yet.
later on I'll have to update the package manager to 3 series if all works well

ttuuxxx

#174 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 14:06

droope wrote:Hey guys, if I copy over all libs I have in /lib/ in 4.12 to 2.16, and by the work of god I don't kill the OS, could I install 4.12 software?

I'm guessing no, but... It's been too long since I ask a stupid question (a day or so)

If it could be done, it'd be interesting.

Cheers,
Droope

droope do you mean 2.14.1x or are using this thread for the heck of it, lol
did you copy /lib also ? Thats where glibc is and thats really when things get tricky.
ttuuxxx

techtype · #175 Post by **techtype** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 14:18

ttuuxxx wrote:Guys, Guys, Guys this is amazing, I just installed the latest Firefox 3.5b4 it needed only Dbus and dbusglib, so I downloaded the slackware 12 version, and boom, splat, bag, zap, lol its perfect, it even past my theme/scroll bar test that every version of 4 series failed, very badly. Firefox 3 is up and running like a dream, I went to youtube and fullscreen worked, I went to sourceforge and it didn't crash with flash included How freakin good is that. ??
Its better than Upup with firefox, its about the same as Dpup which ran perfect with firefox.
I also still have Seamonkey working I used /lib to install firefox and not /usr/lib that way they both can live in the same os.
Now here's the tough question, do you want firefox as the main browser or Seamonkey ?
or do you want a firefox pet package? that installs in /lib ? so it doesn't kill Seamonkey.
ttuuxxx

Did you remember to perform the my.yahoo javascript test? That is the third critical test for Firefox stability, you mention two.

#176 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 14:59

techtype wrote:
Did you remember to perform the my.yahoo javascript test? That is the third critical test for Firefox stability, you mention two.

Do you have a link? I searched for it and couldn't find it, But i did watch some videos @ yahoo and also I have flash10 installed and running just fine

ttuuxxx

#177 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 15:22

Good news guys I also managed to get the devx up and running, ok I'll get back to a FireFox release

ttuuxxx

#178 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 16:24

I downloaded slackware packages and made abiword 2.6.3 work, which is nice but its like a 7.3MB pet and thats after i removed the docs and locales, its due to all the extra plugins that it comes fully loaded with, The reason why I'm trying this out is because I would like to see what extra libs slackware uses over puppy, and if they are small enough then maybe include them. Well it was nice to see that 3 series will work since abiword was from the slackware 12 repo.
ttuuxxx

davesurrey · #179 Post by **davesurrey** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 19:34

ttuuxxx wrote:

Also theres been a lot of talk about Barrys new 2.18, should I continue with 2.14.1X or move on to, 2.18, I think I might try to put glibc2.5 in series 2.14.1X and see what happens ,lol
ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx , you are not the only one wondering what direction this will lead!

I've been away from Puppy for a while so apologies for not being up to speed.

Just read this thread and it seems to me that "revise 2-series" is the most exciting thing happening at the moment. But I am confused in that you seem to be working based on 2.14R whereas Barry seems to have started something based on Woof. And I don't sense he is aiming to finish it as a distro just perhaps as a beta?

Are these two things competitive ie working in parallel? Nothing wrong with that of course. Or do you see the two projects converging?

The reason I ask is that I'd like to try one out and give feedback if possible but not sure where the projects stand.

Lastly thanks for resurrecting this version and helping to keep Puppy as a unique distro.

Cheers
Dave

techtype · #180 Post by **techtype** » Wed 10 Jun 2009, 19:53

ttuuxxx wrote:
techtype wrote:
Did you remember to perform the my.yahoo javascript test? That is the third critical test for Firefox stability, you mention two.
Do you have a link? I searched for it and couldn't find it, But i did watch some videos @ yahoo and also I have flash10 installed and running just fine
ttuuxxx

Well, you and I have been down this road before together:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=39736

See 2nd post in the thread.

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