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Hello,

Maybe this is bad practice, but I'm getting desperate to make my system operational. I got Wacom working in lupq, 5.1.1. But because of some unrelated issue, the wireless will not setup. It was suggested that I try a 4.3.1 system. Wireless works great; but I cant get the Wacom working. Apparently the .pet which worked nicely in 5.1.1 isnt a go for 4.3.1. Honestly, trying to follow the conversation about the various pets and linux versions leaves me dazed and confused.

In the 5.1.1, it was

1. download and install XXX.pet
2. Add lines of text to xorg.conf
3. Working Wacom Tablet!

In 4.3.1 is it

1. Download and install ???.pet?
2. Use same text additions to xorg.conf (that worked in 5.1.1)?

Section "ServerLayout"
InputDevice "Synaptics Mouse" "AlwaysCore"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "cursor"
Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
Option "Type" "cursor"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"
Option "Button2" "3"
Option "CursorProx" "256"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "stylus"
Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
Option "Type" "stylus"
Option "PressCurve" "50,0,100,50"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"
Option "Button2" "3"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "eraser"
Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
Option "Type" "eraser"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"
Option "Button2" "3"
EndSection


Thanks and best regards,

Joe

I've been battling with this as well, and after trying various combinations i have noticed that the wacom setup seems to have less problems with xfce than jwm... i don't know why???
I have a Bamboo CTL-460

With puppy 4.3.1 i could get everything to work except pressure.
When i tried it in NOP which runs under xfce, everything worked!!

I had tried under puppy Lupu 5.1.1 with no sucsess.
then Lupq (which really has a friendly setup ), which worked without pressure.

Then on a hunch i frugaled i new puppy Lupu 5.1.1 and installed the xfce pet.
Charlie6s lupq kernal driver works on Lucid with xfce. Still having problems with pressure though.... i think it has somthing to do with the xorg driver... i don't really know???

I also tryed compiling a kernal driver but i don't really know what i am doing!!!

so the news is that lucid 5.1.1 with xfce is showing some positive results, if anyone wants to have a go at fixing the pressure problem i would be more than pleased

jump wrote:I had tried under puppy Lupu 5.1.1 with no sucsess.
then Lupq (which really has a friendly setup ), which worked without pressure.

I wonder why it works on LupQ and not on Lupu.
They have different version of jwm, but not big difference.
MtPaint's are different version.
The kernel, glibc and xorg is the same...

Apparently the .pet which worked nicely in 5.1.1 isnt a go for 4.3.1. Honestly, trying to follow the conversation about the various pets and linux versions leaves me dazed and confused.

I used earlier pet on my lighthouse 4.43 installation (equivalent to puppy4.3.1)
and it worked fine.

There's no need to panic while doing this. I just trash my bad xorg.conf file
and reboot. The fresh start creates a new xorg.conf and you can have another
try. The basic rule (as best I know) is

1) 'ServerLayout' section needs to be completely replaced
2) You must insert after mouse and keyboard definitions your definitions
for stylus , eraser, cursor,pad, touch.

...but maybe it's different for other wacom products. Look through this thread
for other suggestions. I use a wacom Bamboo tablet. Your computer is
very rare but you did get it to work once. That's good.

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Another suggestion ..... I always save a copy of a working xorg.conf file
and keep notes on how I successfully installed something.
It's good practice.
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Dejan has put together a new version of gimp
http://puppy.b0x.me/software/squeeze/gi ... queeze.pet

That works on luci as well
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To shinobar .... It works beautifully on luci233 and lighthouse5 as well.
There's the problem with the recent versions of mtpaint but
the maintainer Dimitri is working on this. In fact I just got
an email from him .

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Bonjour !

Joe Jasniewski wrote:...Apparently the .pet which worked nicely in 5.1.1 isnt a go for 4.3.1. Honestly, trying to follow the conversation about the various pets and linux versions leaves me dazed and confused.
...
1. Download and install ???.pet?
2. Use same text additions to xorg.conf (that worked in 5.1.1)?
...

«isnt a go for 4.3.1»
On page 1 this thread are given kernel dependent wacom drivers which also have the xorg driver included: see paragraph 2. on page 1 (for pup 4.3.1 non retro - i.e. with kernel 2.6.30.5 - you need the wacom-0.8.4-4-k2.6.30.5.pet and only this one. Then follow Pizzasgood howto (it is good to read carefully across his explanations to understand - as also to learn a bit more - how it works).

Afterwards edit the xorg.cong with addition of the wacom "bits": be carefull deleting or commenting the lines which are NOT RELEVANT of your hardware ( i.e. adding a '# ' without quotes in front of the line; then the commented lines must turn to grey color once commented=disabled): for instance, if a USB tablet connected then delete the lines containing "/dev/ttyS0" = related to a SERIAL tablet connection.
I personaly have deleted the comments as '# USB tablet only' as I experienced that text was not disabled (did not turned to grey color; and so could be interpreted as a command...in doubt I prefered to delete it) in the xorg.conf on some installations.
Example: see my copy of the wacom's xorg.conf bits on page 10.

Important: about "stylus" section, There the ' Option "Mode" "Relative" ' lets the stylus moves as a mouse, i.e. the cursor does not return to one of the screen corners when stylus is lifted off the tablet. It is ggod to know that that option also prevent use of pressure sensitivity on mtpaint.
So if you need pressure using mtpaint then you need to comment (=disable) that line, ...and of course afterwards restart X server to activate the modified xorg.conf setting.

So hope this helps.
Sorry if beeing a bit too explicit.

Bien amicalement !
Charlie

I tried out the latest Puppy.

I was able to use my Wacom Bamboo tablet with Wary 094.
The pressure sensitivity worked with mtpaint 3.31
I installed wacom-0.8.4-4_xorg_driver.pet from
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=16491

It was simple to install because xorg.conf already had a
'ServerLayout' section

Note that it wouldn't work when I tried the following:
wacom-0.10.7_xorg_driver.pet
wacom-0.10.8_xorg_driver.pet

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Note to Joe Jasniewski

It seems like wacom-0.8.4-4_xorg_driver.pet is
the only version that will work with Puppy 4.3.1

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I was thinking that I might buy a tablet input device for testing on Wary, but the Wacom Bamboo is not cheap, $239 (Perth, Australia, AU Dollars -- about same as US):

http://www.ple.com.au/?p=snapshot&inventory_id=749

Any online supplier that is significantly cheaper, or any alternate brand? -- surely something from China can be obtained for far less than that price.

Here in Canada you can get the WACOM BAMBOO for as little as
$69 CAN +16% sales tax but here's the catch...

The active area is only about 4x6 inches and there's no software inside.
This is good enough for me and probably for you since we get
the 'free' linux software. I like it for small artwork and drawings.
See my puppy on left.


There is a better model that has
Corel® Painter™ Essentials 4 inside the box. It's a good quality
program but it doesn't support layers and it's definitely not for linux.

http://www.wacom.com/bamboo/bamboo_pen.php

There is another competing company in China but who knows if
their product would work in Puppy.

I noticed that Ubuntu linux says it supports AIPTEK

http://www.aiptek.com/Tablets/ST12/Features/

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet

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I was able to use an earlier driver wacom-0.8.4-4-k2.6.30.5.pet

http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/so ... 6.30.5.pet

on the latest luci 234 (just released )

However it still requires a pupsave file to be created first
because of period of black screen when choosing 'reboot'

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I have done some research:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01918
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01917
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01915

I have compiled the Wacom 0.8.8-10 driver for Wary.

I also compiled the Wizardpen driver that supports many brands of tablets other than Wacom. Some of these other brands are about 1/3 the price of Wacom here in Australia.

I tested Barry's new wacom driver that he compiled for Wary
AVAILABLE HERE

I love it . Perfect. I don't have the problems that I still have in Lucid Puppy.
Note that this driver definitely doesn't work with Lucid Puppy


On a related subject...

I received a modified version of mtpaint 3.34.56 from the
maintainer Dimitri Groshev that was compiled in Slack Linux.
He made some quick changes in the method used for mouse position
in the mtpaint window and he succeeded. No problems
now in pressure sensitivity.


He asked me to test it. It works perfectly in several version of Puppy linux

Here are some quick notes:

Wary094 excellent except for one minor flaw...it wouldn't launch.
I launched the terminal and typed
The terminal gave the message 'libtiff.so.4 not found'. So I made a
link to the older version of libtiff I found in /usr/lib/.

mtpaint now launches and works very well.

luci234 and lupq511 don't save the tablet settings each time I quit
and then relaunch mtpaint.

Lighthouse 5F --- mtpaint 3.34.56 now works great with tablet

If you want to try out this application, here's
a download site...

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-ebf11bdd.html

Post any bugs you find.
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Edit: Barry Kauler will be incorporating mtpaint 3.34.57 in future
versions of Wary

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I received a suggestion from Dmitry Groshev, maintainer of mtPaint
to solve the problem of the pressure settings in mtpaint not being
persistant with multiple launches. The solution was simple.

I was setting the mtpaint tablet preference for everything I saw on the list
i.e. pad, erasor, stylus and cursor. Dmitry recommended only setting
the 'stylus' to work on the screen and leave the others alone.

That did the trick and now I can use mtpaint perfectly in
lupq511 and luci 235 (beta of Lucid Puppy5.2)

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Here's the latest version of mtpaint (version 3.34.57) that fixed
all my problems. Hopefully it will be incorporated into the
next generation of Puppies.

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-fae7d43d.html

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Hi,
please find at bottom of page 10 this thread the corrected driver.
Again my apologizes to the forum, and many thanks to forum member Tempestuous.
Cheers, Charlie

Yes, charlie6 and I have been discussing the confusion in the latter part of this forum thread regarding compatibility of various wacom dotpets with different Puppy versions. Here's the overall situation:
The wacom drivers consist mainly of two components - an Xorg input plugin called wacom_drv.so, and a kernel module called wacom.ko.
There's also a udev rule which should load the kernel module (and plugin?) and some utilities for diagnosis.

The kernel module is obviously compatible only with the kernel version (and thus, Puppy version) it was compiled for.

Significantly, also, are the file location differences between Xorg versions;
Puppy 4.3.x and Wary both have Xorg 7.3 (xorg-server 1.3.0.0),
for which the plugin location is /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/input/

Puppy 5.x and Quirky both have Xorg 7.5 (xorg-server 1.7.6),
for which the plugin location is /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/

To add further to this complexity, the very latest wacom drivers have a different release series for versions of Xorg after 7.5.

I have just compiled the latest wacom drivers (released October 2010), and consolidated them for Puppy 5.x and 4.3.x

Puppy 5.1.x
The wacom drivers in Puppy 5.1.x are reasonably up to date, so the only thing missing is the udev rule, now attached.
After installing this dotpet, reboot.
Now modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as per the instructions in the first post in this thread.
Restart X, or reboot.

But if you want to try the very latest wacom drivers with Puppy 5.1.x, here they are, separated into their 2 main components; Xorg input, and kernel module.
Try just the Xorg input first. It includes the udev rule and the xsetwacom utility.
The updated kernel module supports a few extra USB device ID's than the original version in Puppy 5.1.x Apart from that, I don't know if it's any more advanced.

These dotpets will rename the original Puppy 5.1.x wacom drivers to "wacom_drv.so-old" and "wacom.ko-old", just in case the new versions don't work, and you need to reinstate the originals.

Puppy 4.1/4.2 and Puppy 4.3.x
Here is the complete wacom driver package; includes xorg plugin, kernel module, udev rule, and utilities: wacdump, xidump, xsetwacom, libwacomcfg.
Make sure you install the correct version !! Otherwise the wacom kernel module will be incompatible, and will obviously fail.

EDIT: 4.1/4.2 version was corrupt. Now fixed and uploaded.

For Wary, Barry has provided the latest wacom drivers here
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -10-w5.pet
This is exactly the same Xorg plugin I packaged for Puppy 4.3.x

I was successful with the new driver of charlie6
(at bottom of page10) installing with wacom bamboo tablet.

I tried it on lupq511 and luci236 and it now
allows the proper shutdown procedure
so that a pupsave file can now be created.

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mtpaint 3.34.57 works when the tablet preferences are
set up in the following manner....

Set 'stylus' to 'screen'
The other tools leave disabled.

Don't forget to tick 'opacity' and 'size'
or the pressure effect won't be seen .

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don570 wrote:I was successful with the new driver of charlie6
(at bottom of page10)

That's the same as "xf86-input-wacom-0.10.8.pet" from above.
The version above is smaller because the binary has been stripped.

charlie6 wrote:to be used with the the already present wacom.ko

Sure, the existing wacom kernel module should work fine with the upgraded wacom Xorg plugin, but users should consider upgrading the kernel module as well, since this was provided by the wacom developers as part of the 0.10.8 driver package.
The upgraded kernel module I'm referring to is "wacom-module-0.8.8-10-k2.6.33.2.pet"

... and obviously, we're talking about Puppy 5.1.x/5.2