Carolina - 1.3

[Geoffrey]

Just having a play, compiled xfdesktop 4.11.3, this has the ability to set a background for each work space.

The only problem I encountered was when dragging a menu item to the desktop, if the icon is a xpm the icon don't show, dragging to the panel is fine, easily fixed by using the rightclick on it and edit the launcher, if the icon is shown then just select save.

jemimah fixed this in saluki but left no clues, I've had a bit of a search but found nothing in regard to this.

[battleshooter]

@Marv

Thanks for piping in Marv. Hmm. The 3.17 kernel came with a host of graphical upgrades. Maybe they're not stable enough or Puppy's X is incompatible, or we need to disable the existing drivers. It something I'm very keen to look at with all these bug reports coming in, I've had a lot of ideas, but unfortunately, I've had a very busy week.

@yerc1

Glad to hear you're one step closer.

The touch pad can apparently be solved with a kernel update, so that's easy enough. The wireless... My kernels seem to have trouble with that, haven't quite mastered that I guess. What's the model number of the wireless?

@Gobbi

I'll suppose your post was just an update, as I'm sure you know I know nothing about raid

[Gobbi]

@Gobbi

I'll suppose your post was just an update, as I'm sure you know I know nothing about raid

You're right ! Your help served me well , I was able to make good use of it , thank you !

[Gobbi]

Sorry ! Double post

[Moat]

Well, I tried the

Updated xfce weather plugin version .0.8.4, added to the repo, get it with the PPM

Still "No Data" for Rok. Even though the patched one works for you guys.

Hey Rok, just a thought here - I had some trouble a while back with the weather plugin not providing data on my end, and it turned out to be a time-sync snafu with the overseas data provider's server. I went to Control Panel>System>Personalize-Settings, and unticked "Use UTC Hardware Clock" on the LH side - then made sure the drop-down menu just above was set to my country/state (US/Michigan - in my case).

Might be worth a shot.

IIRC, Puppy defaults to using UTC at first boot, and that's where the problem was.

I may have re-sync'd the time server via Control Panel>System>Psync time server syncroniser afterwards... but can't remember.

Maybe the recent Daylight Savings Time change knocked things askew...!

The latest weather plugin version 0.8.4 has been working flawless for me, so far (thanks Geoffrey!!).

Bob

[rokytnji]

Thanks Bob, I;ll check it out later.

[Geoffrey]

I found since updating openssl, svn no longer worked, a openssl version mismatch.

I compiled the latest subversion-1.8.10, this also required an updated sqlite.

I'll post the links to these here for the time being, so that they can be tested, they should be ok from the tests that I've done, but you never know.

These are only needed if you have updated to openssl-1.0.1j-i486 which is in the PPM

subversion-1.8.10-i486.pet

Dependencies

serf-1.3.8-i486.pet

sqlite-3.8.7.2-i486.pet

Also updated to bleachbit-1.6-i486 in PPM.

[yerc1]

@yerc1

Glad to hear you're one step closer.

The touch pad can apparently be solved with a kernel update, so that's easy enough. The wireless... My kernels seem to have trouble with that, haven't quite mastered that I guess. What's the model number of the wireless?

As excited as a kid waiting for christmas

The wireless is Atheros.
Fatdog64 sees it as Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01).

The Hardinfo report from Fatdog64-700 beta is attached. Hope it might help.

Posting from my chromebook running Fatdog.

[battleshooter]

As excited as a kid waiting for christmas

Haha, at the rate things are going on this end, it might be a Christmas present.

[edoc]

How would you respond to a request like this re. a Linux replacement for MS?

Note: This is a former acquaintance from FL - too far for me to set this up for him. He's in his late 70's & was a communications repair tech. He has moderate computer user skills.

He says his hardware is 64-bit "Toshiba laptop that came with Win 8.1 (HATE 8.1) but I was able to install Win7 by disabling secure boot, entering legacy mode"

Just a little FYI: I HATE COMPUTERS AND MOSTLY MICROSOFT!

I am on a mission to get rid of MS and need your help; What is the easiest version of what you use?

I use the machine mostly for email and a little surfing the web.

A download link would really be nice. . . . . .

[battleshooter]

How would you respond to a request like this re. a Linux replacement for MS?

Hmmm, I'd say Carolina's the way to go but I think it's pretty clear I'm biased. The tricky thing is hardware. Will everything work out of the box? I think that's a pretty important thing for someone who "HATES COMPUTERS" The last thing they'll have the patience for is chasing down drivers and dmesgs.

What would be ideal is if you could test a Pup on his laptop and smooth out any hardware issues, so hopefully when he sits down to do his browsing and Puppy boots quickly, the internet connects without issue, he'll be blown away by Puppy's efficiency

At the risk of sidetracking, I recently gave someone a USB with Carolina and setup their laptop to boot from USB. Included on the USB was a savefile I arranged with shortcuts to "My Documents" and a psuedo "My Computer". As they were using a 3G dongle for internet, I got wvdial to start on boot so they would have internet from the get-go and stuck a Firefox icon on the desktop. Maybe something like that will work for your acquaintance? The thing about the USB is it isn't permanent, changes nothing on the target computer. Nice and physical too, most people can understand, USB in: Linux on USB out: Linux off. No need to mess with GRUB, they can go back to wallow in Windows and continue their life without Puppy anytime they wish. It's the ultimate non-commitment

[edoc]

Will Carolina 1.2 make good use of his 64-bit hardware?

I though it was optimized for 32-bit.

I like the USB stick idea.

I have to boot from USB on my HP pavilion g7 due to the evil empire's no-choice UEFI nastiness.

[battleshooter]

Will Carolina 1.2 make good use of his 64-bit hardware?

Does he normally take advantage of his 64-bit hardware? He might not notice or care if the system does everything he wants without breaking a sweat. If not, Fatdog it is I guess. That's the only 64-bit Pup we have right? It's pretty cutting edge too from what I last noticed.

I have to boot from USB on my HP pavilion g7 due to the evil empire's no-choice UEFI nastiness.

Feel your pain man. I thought a laptop I was working on was doomed to a Puppy USB existence but I think it was wiping the partition table that sorted it. Of course you wipe the drive, but it didn't have anything on it anyway.

[greengeek]

Fatdog it is I guess. That's the only 64-bit Pup we have right? It's pretty cutting edge too from what I last noticed.

Pretty sure there is a 64 bit Slacko, and also a 64bit pup from Iguleder.

[edoc]

I'm using Lighthouse 64 on this laptop.

He's not a sophisticated user - the 64-bit resource was, presumably, used by his MS version of windows - I don't know that he'd notice the difference.

[rokytnji]

Carolina 1.1 picks up all my 4gig of ram and runs on 64bit just fine on my IBM M57 Tower.

The only things that I lose out on is the 64bit Opera developer browser.
They have not built a 32 bit version yet.

Which is not Carolinas fault.

https://gist.github.com/ruario/ace4fb780216aa28d922

https://gist.github.com/ruario/215c365facfe8d3c5071

https://gist.github.com/ruario/7b33ca4cf70e6ff70880

But I am a patient bow wow wow, yippy yay, yippy yay.

[battleshooter]

Fatdog it is I guess. That's the only 64-bit Pup we have right? It's pretty cutting edge too from what I last noticed.

Pretty sure there is a 64 bit Slacko, and also a 64bit pup from Iguleder.

I'm using Lighthouse 64 on this laptop.

Ah, I'm clearly not up to date with the 64-bit scene on Puppy.

Carolina 1.1 picks up all my 4gig of ram and runs on 64bit just fine on my IBM M57 Tower.

Hmm, I may have compiled the 3.17 kernel without pae... on my computer it seems to be only picking up 3GB instead of 8GB.

He's not a sophisticated user - the 64-bit resource was, presumably, used by his MS version of windows - I don't know that he'd notice the difference.

So that leaves you with more options, you should be able to pick whatever you think best without being limited to 64-bit. Is there anything particular you think he'll appreciate in a Pup or are you only limited by harware constraints?

[gcmartin]

Most recently, @StemSee has brought a completely new awareness to Puppyland with his latest EmSee distros. "Make no mistake" this approach he has given this community is a new approach for any PC that has 1GB RAM or more.

One of its most novel presentation is probably missed by normal users who boot; namely the ability to boot it in 32bit flavor or in 64bit flavor. (This has only been perfected by Knoppix beginning in its version 5 days.) This means that PUP developers can, indeed, create an ISO that allow a boot-time selection of which version of the developer's distro the user would like. Novel

Just an added note to previous posts by members of technology found in Puppyland.

[edoc]

Here's the challenge - there is no central location for an up-to-date comparison of the many Puppy versions as to:

Key features
Platform(s) supported
Abandoned/static/or in active development

I'm using Carolina 1,2 Frugal but I'm used to the setup and tweaks necessary to get it to play nicely.

I like Lighthouse 64 but it has trouble getting past UEFI and the workaround is a deal-breaker for newbie MS-refugee users.

EmSee2.3 looks promising for newbies - 32 & 64-bit and sounds as though it's essentially self-installing via USB stick -- is it?

[Geoffrey]

Sneek peek Carolina 1.3

It will be bigger, but under 500mb.

The main changes are:

LibreOffice 4.3.4
Firefox 34.0.5
Thunderbird 31.3.0
Hotshots 2.2.0
Nomacs 2.2.0
yad 0.27.0
inxi 2.2.16
bash 4.3.30
wget 1.16
openssl 1.0.1j
sqlite 3.8.7.2
MasterPDFeditor 2.1.90
Grooveoff 0.2.0
Skype 4.3.0.37
Geany with plugins 1.24.1
Smplayer with icons and skins 14.9.0
Smtube 14.8.0

Bug fixes, removed the favorites from the menu, removed Pidgin as it no longer worked with some servers.
made Whisker menu default menu, this has a favorites entry.
updated lib files where needed, added a couple of xfce theme manager themes.

I won't be making a delta file update for this as it will be huge with all the changes

I have yet to do a non pae version, just need to see how this flies first.

Will most likely upload this weekend after a few more tests, still need to create a bootable iso.

The underlying system is as it was, so if you had problems before then you mostly still will have with this.

There are no plans to update any drivers or any other major changes.