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Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 20:14
by James C
While waiting for the non-pae version.........
Manual frugal install of 5.4.9.2 on my old Athlon XP box. Basically everything working well out of the box.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.92

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1365 frames in 5.0 seconds = 272.937 FPS
2085 frames in 5.0 seconds = 416.855 FPS
1998 frames in 5.0 seconds = 399.515 FPS
2152 frames in 5.0 seconds = 430.249 FPS
2049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 409.735 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (202MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 20 Feb 2013 02:15:42 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2013, 23:27
by irishrm
Did a USB install of 5.4.9.2:

I had no problem connecting my wi driver with frisbee however every 30 seconds or so it disconnected and reconnected again so I had to abandon frisbee. (Thanks Barry for including frisbee)

After a number of unsuccessful attempts I finally established a connection using network wizard.

This just goes to show that this wl driver is a disaster as far as puppy is concerned.

Apart from that congratulations on a great os.

irishrm.

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 00:35
by vicmz
Frugal install to Flash drive

Posting from Precise 5.5 beta right now

Added 5 SFS (devx, poedit, libreoffice, java, wine)

Everything normal so far

For either official or derivative builds, Retrovol doesn't rise/low volume in my computer, how can I find out what sound card I have and set Retrovol to use it?

I like the new theme combination, it reminds me of Puppy 4.3.1 :D
Computer Details wrote:-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz
Memory : 1025MB (261MB used)
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 00:47
by tiangeng
when save 2fs to precisesave_cryptx-549.2fs,
then reboot,
then input password,
Always prompt for password error

precise Puppy 5.5 beta

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 02:09
by rameshiyer
vicmz

I like the new theme combination, it reminds me of Puppy 4.3.1 ].

Vicmz I have same opinion.

Desktop theme is very good. Old is Gold !. Also, I would like to inform you all that Precise Puppy 5.5 is excellent in all respects .

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 04:05
by linuxcbon
Precise 5.4.92

- # wag-profiles.sh
** (gtkdialog3:23869): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 14, near token '</label>': syntax error
** (gtkdialog3:23886): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 6, near token '</label>': syntax error
.....
- /dev/sda should be limited from 1 to 15
- there are big files like LLVM, icudata, xul, flashplayer...what can be done ?
- when doing for instance ls /dev/ram0 it displays in bright color not easily readable.
- /usr/local/share/pixmaps/ has only one file
- There is /lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 and /lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 but 9.8 is not used

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 06:49
by BarryK
linuxcbon wrote:Precise 5.4.92

- # wag-profiles.sh
** (gtkdialog3:23869): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 14, near token '</label>': syntax error
** (gtkdialog3:23886): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 6, near token '</label>': syntax error
.....
- /dev/sda should be limited from 1 to 15
- there are big files like LLVM, icudata, xul, flashplayer...what can be done ?
- when doing for instance ls /dev/ram0 it displays in bright color not easily readable.
- /usr/local/share/pixmaps/ has only one file
- There is /lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 and /lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 but 9.8 is not used
- /dev/sda should be limited from 1 to 15
No, you are wrong. What Puppy has is correct. I was informed of this sometime ago, and it works for case of more than 16 partitions.

Major number '259' is explained in the Linux documentation:
http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/devices.txt
- there are big files like LLVM, icudata, xul, flashplayer...what can be done ?
Nothing. Unfortunately, these are needed dependencies in Precise Puppy.
- when doing for instance ls /dev/ram0 it displays in bright color not easily readable.
Yes, the yellow colour in a terminal is awful, but I don't know how to change it. Perhaps someone can hack the urxvt source code.
- /usr/local/share/pixmaps/ has only one file
So? it is the Glipper package that has this.
- There is /lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 and /lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 but 9.8 is not used
That was deliberate. I think that there is an incompatibility between the two versions. The Ubuntu repo has both of these. 0.9.8 is included in the build for any pkgs that might be installed that need it, including some older PETs.

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 07:19
by Terryphi
BarryK wrote:
- There is /lib/libssl.so.1.0.0 and /lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 but 9.8 is not used
That was deliberate. I think that there is an incompatibility between the two versions. The Ubuntu repo has both of these. 0.9.8 is included in the build for any pkgs that might be installed that need it, including some older PETs.
Yes, libssl.so.0.9.8 is essential. I have an important package (Mailwasher) that will not work with later versions.

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 07:30
by BarryK
pemasu wrote:Playing with chrome browser. I tested the root disabling feature.
http://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel

/usr/local/petget/hacks-postinstall.sh
I did add this into it:

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google-chrome-*)
if [ -f /usr/bin/bbe ];then #bbe is a sed-like utility for binary files.
if [ -f /opt/google/chrome/chrome  ];then
bbe -e 's/geteuid/getppid/' /opt/google/chrome/chrome > /tmp/chrome-temp1
mv -f /tmp/chrome-temp1 opt/google/chrome/chrome
chmod 755 /opt/google/chrome/chrome
ln -s /opt/google/chrome/chrome /usr/bin/google-chrome
echo '[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Version=1.0
Name=Google Chrome
GenericName=Web Browser
Comment=Access the Internet
Exec=/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Icon=/opt/google/chrome/product_logo_48.png
Categories=WebBrowser;' > /usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop
   fi
  fi
 ;;
And then I downloaded this one:
https://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/e ... a_i386_deb

Posting from it now. This kind hack might enable the root user restricted .deb browsers. Well...they also might broke Cups, have done that in the past...but this seems to help installing these browsers anyway...
Heh heh, ok, another one. I have added your patch into Woof. Also committed and uploaded Woof.

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 07:35
by James C
Manual frugal install of 5.4.9.3 on my trusty Athlon XP box. All looking good on initial boot.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.93

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
2122 frames in 5.0 seconds = 424.349 FPS
2123 frames in 5.0 seconds = 424.507 FPS
2157 frames in 5.0 seconds = 431.399 FPS
2233 frames in 5.0 seconds = 446.227 FPS
2227 frames in 5.0 seconds = 445.181 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (201MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 21 Feb 2013 01:35:29 AM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.8.0 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Wed Feb 20 17:29:16 GMT-8 2013
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       1033756       595956       437800            0        63340
-/+ buffers:             532616       501140
Swap:      1228936            0      1228936
# 
Looks really good so far......... even seems snappier than the pae version.
More testing later.

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 07:40
by BarryK
tiangeng wrote:Install guvcview from PPM,but it not works.
I fixed a bug in PPM:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00141

Apart from that, guvcview works on my laptop. The laptop's built-in camera works, get video, but no sound. Um, but I don't even know if my laptop has a built-in microphone, perhaps I have to plug one in.

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 07:47
by James C
Started installing both Ubuntu packages and a few pets...... no problems yet.

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 08:22
by James C
Unable to mount usb flash drive.
Messages....
Detected drive

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Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.info kernel: [    0.639220] usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=0951, idProduct=1603
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.info kernel: [    0.639225] usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.info kernel: [    0.639229] usb 1-4: Product: DataTraveler 2.0
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.info kernel: [    0.639232] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Kingston
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.info kernel: [    0.639236] usb 1-4: SerialNumber: 0019E06B9C90SK8704140BEB
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.debug kernel: [    0.639593] usb-storage: device found at 2
Mount error

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Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.notice kernel: [    1.640695] scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.notice kernel: [    1.641518] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 3973120 512-byte logical blocks: (2.03 GB/1.89 GiB)
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.notice kernel: [    1.642139] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.debug kernel: [    1.642145] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.err kernel: [    1.642765] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.err kernel: [    1.642769] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.debug kernel: [    1.644033] usb-storage: device scan complete
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.err kernel: [    1.645386] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.err kernel: [    1.645390] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.info kernel: [    1.873499]  sdb: sdb1
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.notice kernel: [    1.875564] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.info kernel: [   34.516685] usb 1-4: reset high-speed USB device number 2 using ehci-pci
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.err kernel: [   49.653352] usb 1-4: device descriptor read/64, error -110
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.err kernel: [   64.893394] usb 1-4: device descriptor read/64, error -110
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.info kernel: [   65.103340] usb 1-4: reset high-speed USB device number 2 using ehci-pci
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.info kernel: [   80.186916] usb 1-4: USB disconnect, device number 2
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.info kernel: [   80.187165] sd 2:0:0:0: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
Feb 22 06:56:49 puppypc15439 user.err kernel: [   80.187273] scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 08:30
by BarryK
kurtdriver wrote:
I agree.
Or at least put a scrollbar in the JWM theme chooser, so that having many themes won't expand the GUI from roof to floor -- at times I think the Exit button will reach China. :lol: The same happens in the Icon Set Chooser GUI, a scrollbar for that one would be great, too. :D
The Simple Network Setup script could really use a scrollbar, when using it in areas with many routers the list goes below the taskbar and the buttons, and passphrase input field are not visible.
OK, SNS now has a scrollbar if more than 11 wifi networks found.

This is in Woof, committed and uploaded.

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 08:33
by linuxcbon
Precise 5.4.92
- remasterpup2 doesn't accept "mounted iso" as "virtual CD"

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 08:44
by BarryK
linuxcbon wrote:Precise 5.4.92

- # wag-profiles.sh
** (gtkdialog3:23869): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 14, near token '</label>': syntax error
** (gtkdialog3:23886): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 6, near token '</label>': syntax error
I don't think that wag-profiles.sh should be run from the terminal like that.

Rerwin last edited that script, he can comment if those errors are valid.

If Network Setup works, then wag-profiles.sh does too.

Precise 5.4.9.3 (k3.8.0)

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 10:52
by drblock2
Downloaded and installed Precise 5.4.93 (k3.8.0) on my ancient AMD Athlon 2 GB machine with NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 graphics card.

I noted the following problems:

1. report-video lists the driver as "nouveau" although I booted with nouveau.modeset=0. The usual problem of blank menus does not occur and xorg.conf reports "vesa," which is probably correct. glxgears reports 35 fps. Switching the driver to "nv" yields 40 fps. Still much too slow.

2. The proprietary NVIDIA 173.14.35 and 173.14.36 drivers fail to compile with an error message:
ERROR: The kernel header file
'/lib/modules/3.8.0/build/include/linux/version.h' does not exist. The
most likely reason for this is that the kernel source files in
'/lib/modules/3.8.0/build' have not been configured.
The required file is, in fact, missing.

On the other hand, VirtualBox 4.2.4 compiles and runs perfectly.

3. Neither pnethood nor YASSM connect to a machine running Puppy (Slacko, Wary), but do connect to a Windows XP share.

4. Textmaker has the strange spell checking error I reported here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 4&start=55

Re: Precise 5.4.9.3 (k3.8.0)

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 12:15
by 01micko
drblock2 wrote: 1. report-video lists the driver as "nouveau" although I booted with nouveau.modeset=0. The usual problem of blank menus does not occur and xorg.conf reports "vesa," which is probably correct. glxgears reports 35 fps. Switching the driver to "nv" yields 40 fps. Still much too slow.
Please try the latest discovery for NV-3X cards (including fx5200) and that is:

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pfix=ram nouveau.noaccel=1

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 13:11
by Ray MK
Precise Puppy version 5.4.93

E732 (Acer) laptop with 2gig ram and an i3 proc.
Manual frugal to an NTFS partition and booting via grub4dos on an SDcard.

Very fast and all the basics work as expected OOTB.
Extremely low resource usage.
Fantastic Puppy which to this very average user seems to be as good as can be reasonably expected.

Precise Puppy 5.5beta

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2013, 13:13
by Billtoo
I installed 5493 non pae to an 8gb ext4 formatted SDHC card using the
puppy universal installer and grub4dos as the boot loader.
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.93

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan
[Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1600x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: synaptics dbe
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): ati
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse radeon ramdac record
synaptics
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1600x900 pixels (423x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
OpenGL
Vendor X.Org
Renderer Gallium 0.4 on AMD CEDAR
Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering Yes
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.185 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.952 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.954 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.955 FPS
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz
Memory 3103MB (101MB used)
Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
(rev 01)
Audio Adapter USB-Audio - Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro

I installed lxterminal and guvcview from ppm (guvcview works)
I compiled and made pets of several applications.
I installed pemasu's google-chrome-fix-for-deb-install-0.0.1.pet +
google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb, also installed opera_12.14.1738_i386.deb

I was unable to compile the ati propietary driver, it gave an error:
Supported adapter detected.
Check if system has the tools required for installation.
fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.
/lib/modules/3.8.0/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
One or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the system.
Install the required tools before installing the fglrx driver.
Optionally, run the installer with --force option to install without the tools.
Forcing install will disable AMD hardware acceleration and may make your system
unstable. Not recommended.

Apart from not being able to install the ati driver every else is
working well so far.