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Posted: Thu 31 Jan 2008, 03:26
by Pizzasgood
Actually, if I remember right it's the parsing that's the problem. The xorgwizard runs Xorg -configure to generate an xorg.conf file, which Puppy then hacks apart based on what you choose in the wizard. I don't remember for sure, but I think when I ran that by hand and analyzed its output (/root/xorg.conf.new) it did have the extra screen section. I'd check it, but you can't run that command while X is going and I have important stuff running right now so restarting X isn't an option.

Anyways, if I'm right then Puppy puts in the serverlayout section without really looking at it, but only grabs a single monitor section. To fix it would probably be pretty simple. Just have it check the serverlayout section to see if there are multiple screens, then modify it a little to handle extra screens (don't just limit to two either, count the number in serverlayout).

Posted: Sun 03 Feb 2008, 17:44
by RobertB
Back to an old issue that doesn't seem to be resolved... after adding memory to my PC, the problem I was having with applications not coming up seemed to go away. But just now, the system froze up (as old boxes sometimes do), requiring a hard shutdown. When I brought Puppy back up, it was back to the bad times -- over a minute for Opera to come up. This time I thought to run Top, and it showed that Opera was never using more than 8.5% of CPU.

But that's enough for me -- I'm going to do a 2.17 frugal install, and see what I can learn about copying files from one installation to another. And I think I'll pay more attention to the suggestion that a frugal install is more flexible than a full HD install, like I've currently got.

Pet memory management

Posted: Sat 09 Feb 2008, 23:41
by maddox
I've had probs decompressing pet's, no room left to decompress..
you have xxx blocks left and the pet needs xxxx blocks to decompress install..
There's enough displayed room left, seemingly,
but the ram has reached it's pre-determined safe limit
and Flushing the RAM, pup-save, has it's unionfs limits.

I know there are patches to (fix) that issue, but it doesn't cure it.
What about putting in the real file-size in the pet, as a variable
so the pet, petget manager could check if it could decompress and install ?
.

Posted: Sat 09 Feb 2008, 23:53
by Dingo
as written here

I have looked a very strange behaviour with upload. many times, uploading on youtube, connection is lost and i must reboot to have a new working connection and, finally, i must reboot again and turning on windows for upload to youtube

these problems affects all browser i have tried: seamonkey, firefox, opera, elinks, netsurf and dillo. may be a puppy problem?

Posted: Fri 22 Feb 2008, 03:39
by Wolf Pup
If anyone is having problems with X hanging on boot and then droping to a command line, try this:

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# Fix X hanging on some boots
/bin/rm /tmp/.X*-lock >> /tmp/xerrs.log 2>&1
it should be added to:
/usr/X11R7/bin/xwin

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[ -z $DISPLAY ] || exit #v2.11 from GuestToo.
echo "This script will run X windows for you..."

# Fix X hanging on some boots
/bin/rm /tmp/.X*-lock >> /tmp/xerrs.log 2>&1
save then reboot.

<SOLVED> Freememory box Help gives http error

Posted: Sat 23 Feb 2008, 00:12
by r__hughes
In my pup301 everything seems to work fine except this -

clicking on the blue freememory box at the bottom-right of desktop gives 3 choices

The 2nd & 3rd options (partview & KP0) work fine but the first (Help) doesnt - it brings up a Netsurf error - unable to display this 'http' page the /usr/share/doc/freememapplet.htm should apparently be accessed as

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file:///usr/share/doc/freememapplet.htm
- not as a http

Anybody else have this problem?

Anybody know of a quickfix for changing the /usr/sbin/freememapplet binary file to fix this (via a hexeditor) or failing this some kind of tricky indirect linking?
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edited 25FEB08
SOLVED - see trapster below
I changed my /usr/local/bin/defaulthtmlviewer" to this:
#!/bin/sh
exec netsurf "file://$@"

Posted: Sun 24 Feb 2008, 16:43
by Dingo
Occasionally, from time to time, it happens when I open a program (eg gftp) leaves me a message no space left on device. I then replaced the file pup_save with a backup and can immediately resume using puppy, but this thing is boring. why this happens? I'm puppy 3.01. The 3.02 will correct these problems?

Posted: Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:26
by trapster
The 2nd & 3rd options (partview & KP0) work fine but the first (Help) doesnt - it brings up a Netsurf error - unable to display this 'http' page the /usr/share/doc/freememapplet.htm should apparently be accessed as
Code:
file:///usr/share/doc/freememapplet.htm
- not as a http

Anybody else have this problem?
I changed my /usr/local/bin/defaulthtmlviewer" to this:

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#!/bin/sh
exec netsurf "file://$@"

Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008, 22:18
by r__hughes
Thank you Trapster your suggestion
I changed my /usr/local/bin/defaulthtmlviewer" to this:

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#!/bin/sh
exec netsurf "file://$@"
solved the problem - much obliged :)

Posted: Tue 26 Feb 2008, 01:37
by crabbypup
hey, does anyone want to do a full bugfix for 3.01? and possibly post the iso? it would be very helpful. thanks. (i found that 3.01 had alot of bugs, so i have moved to TEENpup)

Posted: Tue 26 Feb 2008, 01:58
by PaulBx1
I've had probs decompressing pet's, no room left to decompress..
I think a lot of these problems are because of the tiny ram-based /tmp directory; you simply run out of room. See pages 3 and 4 of this thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 6&start=45

The solution Mark figured out was to quit X, create a /tmp directory somewhere on the hard drive (in my case, because I wanted to retain security, in my encrypted pup_save in /root/tmp) and mount it to the existing ram-based /tmp.

The only question I have on that is whether the ram based one is used up first before resorting to the added (slower) disk-based one. That would be ideal...

Of course this needs to be handled in the boot script for a permanent solution.

Bugs list 3.01 - Gxine, Internet sharing/firewall on boot up

Posted: Mon 24 Mar 2008, 05:09
by growler
I am a relatively recent convert having played with 2.16 the 2.17 now having 3.01 installed on 2 computers at different locations - using frugal installs to a hard drive on both machines. I thought to give back my experiences in the interests of improving the quality - some or all of these may already have been reported - they are all relatively minor issues in my view and hope they are not received as criticism - or me living up to my user name! Only a humble tester reporting the issues observed:

Machine 1 - is connected to a cable modem through eth4 and has a local network on eth1 - I wanted to have the firewall start up on boot - both eth4 and eth1 are static IP addresses. However, the firewall will not start since puppy is kicking off the network interfaces and the firewall start script fails. Once the network interfaces are up I can start the firewall ok and then internet sharing over eth1 can commence but only after a manual start.

Gxine - is flaky and freezes and locks up most of the time - its useless really - I don't use puppy as a media player machine (fortunately).

Barry asked for feeback on the viewer versus editor - me thinks most newbies would be wanting to view photos rather than edit in mpaint. However, GTKSee is a shocker - it freezes when you open a picture then try to take it full screen - there is no option to open pictures that scale to the window. GQview that installed from the PET is much better - I have changed my defaults. I've not checked out Fotox.

Machine 2 uses DHCP to connect to an ADSL router - but this crashes the machine on boot up with errors around the unionfs - I can report back in more detail if it is required. I have to unplug the network cable - boot up then run the network wizard to refresh the DHCP lease.

My wife is a double clicker and Sea-monkey complains and brings up the profile manager - which confuses her when she just wants to look up trademe. An option to allow double clickers might be nice.

Posted: Mon 24 Mar 2008, 19:32
by Pizzasgood
An option to allow double clickers might be nice.
Right-click a desktop icon. Go to "Options" (or maybe it's "Rox-Filer -> Options"). Now go into the "Pinboard" section and uncheck the "Single-click to open" box. Next, go to the "Filer windows" section and uncheck the "Single-click navigation" box. Finally, click "OK".

Posted: Thu 03 Apr 2008, 19:57
by Sage
Neat trick, Wolf Pup. How do you do it? But you couldn't detect my BSD system - it just says 'Your IP is using Mozilla/Netscape5".
Maybe a little more work to do?!

Posted: Fri 04 Apr 2008, 22:18
by crabbypup
and you could't detect the difference between rogers cable and rogers mobile isp's :D . also, it probably doesn't distinguish between different puppy microdistro's such as teenpup or pizzapup (haven't tried, but there is another one similar to yours out there and it only says 'linux' for anything but mac and windoze) and it probably doesn't recognize Ecommstation versus os/2. but whatever. that is quite off topic.

problem with wireless, caused by zombies?

Posted: Mon 07 Apr 2008, 12:18
by prehistoric
I've had a peculiar problem in changing locations with wireless. The first time I configure wireless I have no problems. Changing to a second location leads to frustration, I can detect the network, but DHCP never connects. By accident I found plugging in a USB wireless dongle also allowed me to reconfigure the first interface.

I'm wondering if Barry's discovery about fuser and zombies could explain this. In the past I've tried to kill visible processes to break an apparent deadlock, but now it seems zombies would not be visible. Anyone else recognise this?

prehistoric

Posted: Fri 11 Apr 2008, 18:12
by Amit
Free memory (the one on the tray)
The help info opens dillo, with http://usr/share/doc (not file://usr/share/doc/...) and it looks really bad.

3.01 unmounts the USB device that it boots from

Posted: Sat 12 Apr 2008, 16:23
by pakt
3.01 unmounts the USB device that it boots from.

When I boot 3.01 from a USB stick, I get correctly get the warning to not disconnect the USB device, BUT the stick is unmounted anyway after booting.

Should I want to load a module afterwards, it won't be found since the zdrv_301.sfs file is on the unmounted USB stick. :?

Posted: Sun 13 Apr 2008, 08:17
by Sage
Wrong 'Bugs' - sorry.

Posted: Fri 18 Apr 2008, 13:51
by gerry
This one is not exactly 301, rather it's GTKSee. I have a folder /mnt/hda2/photos

GTKSee will list all the files in mnt/hda2, but not the folder. GIMP has no problem.

EDIT: ie GTKSee will list all the .sfs, .2fs, .BAK etc files, but not the "/photos" folder, or, of course, the files in it.

Home is on hda1, and hda2 is mounted.

Puppy 214R using GQView has no problem.
Both 214R and 301 are live cd.

Gerry