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hilfer wrote:This is exactely where I have been trying all day long.

It's not deteting my usb dongle

Tempestuos said Network Wizard, not Frisbee.
It's called Dougals Network Wizard in this case.

Ok let me explain exactely where I'be neeb trying:

Configuration> internet connection wizard > lan or wireless> network wizard

No matter what I try there : network wizard, frisbee or a third option my dongles never detected.

Wait a minute - you are saying you are using 'Frisbee'. How do you try to login to your wifi source? How does your 'Frisbee' window look like? Does it look like this on?

FeodorF wrote:Wait a minute - you are saying you are using 'Frisbee'. How do you try to login to your wifi source? How does your 'Frisbee' window look like? Does it look like this on?

No I didn't say I was using frisbee.

On network wizard there are 3 options:

one of them is "frisbee", but I tried them all.

The problem is that none of them detects my dongle.

hilfer wrote:

FeodorF wrote:Wait a minute - you are saying you are using 'Frisbee'. How do you try to login to your wifi source? How does your 'Frisbee' window look like? Does it look like this on?

No I didn't say I was using frisbee.

On network wizard there are 3 options:

one of them is "frisbee", but I tried them all.

The problem is that none of them detects my dongle.

How old is the machine? I had an old dongle that I concluded would suck too much on the USB, then shut off... It would work in machines that could supply enough power, not in others...very weird...

BTW, here is a dongle that did work for me (and I think I paid about $5 for it):

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 426#593426

Hilfer, what happens if in a console you type:

#lsusb

(This command lists USB devices pluged in)

Yes it has detected my dongle as:

8178 realtek semiconductor corp.

hilfer wrote:8178 realtek semiconductor corp.

That's the same USB device ID I mentioned earlier. So it appears the driver is failing.
I suspect the vendor-supplied version of the Realtek driver may work better, and there's such a driver available for Puppy Lucid 5.1/5.2.x

So get yourself a copy of Lucid 5.2.8 -
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-5.2.8/
Install 8192cu-k2.6.33.2.pet from -
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 469#462469
Then plug in your dongle, and run the Network Wizard.

So if I understood right I have to install a new puppy version Lucid 5.2.8 ?
This will remove previous version slacko precise 5.7.1 ,right ?

Ok in any case that's a new task for tomorrow.
Will keep you informed.

Please find the USB device's ID and tell us what it is. Tempestuous described how to do that at the end of his post here.

Flash, I'm fairly certain I already know hilfer's USB device ID.

hilfer wrote:So if I understood right I have to install a new puppy version Lucid 5.2.8 ?
This will remove previous version slacko precise 5.7.1 ,right ?

Well if you do a frugal installation, as opposed to full HD installation, then multiple vesions of Puppy can coexist on the same partition ... you just need to be a little careful about the last installation step where the grub bootloader is installed - the grub configuration file needs to be updated, rather than completely overwritten. I perform this step manually, so I'm not the best person to explain it to a newbie.

To make life easier, the best option might just be to nuke your Precise installation, and install 5.2.8 instead. The Puppy installation process is relatively quick and easy.

Wait ... I see that the Realtek wifi drivers require firmware, which recent Puppies already contain, and these firmware files should be automatically relocated to the correct directory when the rtl8192cu driver is first loaded. But I suspect this relocation process has failed.

So hilfer, if you still have Precise installed, you may be able to fix this problem by running this command - Note in particular the space near the end before "/lib/firmware"
Now reboot, and run the Network Wizard - you may be surprised.

Wait ... I see that the Realtek wifi drivers require firmware, which recent Puppies already contain, and these firmware files should be automatically relocated to the correct directory when the rtl8192cu driver is first loaded. But I suspect this relocation process has failed.

So hilfer, if you still have Precise installed, you may be able to fix this problem by running this command -
Code:
mv /lib/modules/all-firmware/rtlwifi/lib/firmware/rtlwifi /lib/firmware

Note in particular the space near the end before "/lib/firmware"
Now reboot, and run the Network Wizard - you may be surprised.

Ok I'm trying to do that right now, but I can't past the command into the console.

Is the copy/paste not supported on the console ??

when I enter that command I get:

mv:cannot move"/lib/modules/all-firmware/rtlwifi/lib/firmware/rtlwifi" to "lib/firmware/rtlwifi"directory not empty.

OK, that means that the firmware has probably copied into place correctly.
To be sure, use ROX to browse to /lib/firmware/rtlwifi and check that this firmware file -
rtl8192cufw.bin
is definitely there.
If so, that's a good thing, but the driver is still failing, and your best option is still to use Lucid 5.2.8 with the vendor-supplied driver that I provided.

hilfer wrote:Ok I'm trying to do that right now, but I can't past the command into the console.

Is the copy/paste not supported on the console ??

To copy and paste out of the urxvt terminal you'll have to use a three button mouse.

- Mark the text in the urxvt to copy
- open f.e. the 'Leafpad' text editor
- click the middle button/scroll wheel to paste into the text editor window

rem: It works both ways - from/and to the urxvt terminal.

...mentioned by forum member 'Monsie'

Right and left mouse button pressed at same time, does the same as pressing the middle mouse button.

tempestuous wrote:OK, that means that the firmware has probably copied into place correctly.
To be sure, use ROX to browse to /lib/firmware/rtlwifi and check that this firmware file -
rtl8192cufw.bin
is definitely there.
If so, that's a good thing, but the driver is still failing, and your best option is still to use Lucid 5.2.8 with the vendor-supplied driver that I provided.

Yes I can see rtlwifi there - inside there is 1 file named rtl8192cufw.bin.

I have tried with Lucid 5.2.8 but still no luck.

Never mind I will forget by now this problem of the wireless dongle.
I can access internet with a ethernet cable.

What I'm trying to do now is to install the most possible of software that I use in windows to see if one day I can completely replace windows with a linux distro on my main desktop machine.

bigpup wrote:Right and left mouse button pressed at same time, does the same as pressing the middle mouse button.

Also, in the newer Puppy systems (certainly true in 5.28) you can copy the text from your browser, then use the "edit" menu bar tool on the command window (which has a "paste" function)

thank you for all tips.

One thing is for sure: in this forum everybody is very helpfull and fast to give answers.

keep up the good job.