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@benny7440: Did you ever look at this?
http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/
It is a Live CD and uses chntpw.

Thanks for replying dk60902, kurtdriver & rcrsn51!

First to dk60902: I went to Hirens website to check what it contains & looks hefty! I prefer a smaller solution, for now.

To kurtdriver: I'm looking now at 'chntpw' as a possible best solution since this's a one-time problem for me. The thing is to d/l, installing it in a pendrive & go there & been able to use it...

To rcrsn51: Yes I looked at it a couple of times already. Think something that has slowed me down with this is the idea of finding, resetting (clearing) a small space within a file & saving it back seems to be very common a task but, for some reason with this issue its' complexity is augmented drastically. The thing is clearly that I don't understand the problem properly... &, since that machine is needed for a serious business is not the platform (for me) to try 'inventing'.

Thanks again! In at most 2 days more I'll decide one way or another. I'll post the results below. If any other ideas/insights pops up include them below because I'll be watching.

Edit: BTW, is it possible to use the following with PL431 &/or PL528 without having to add anything extra to the referenced Puppy?

sudo apt-get install chntpw

I already tried this command with & without the sudo option but it failed to execute in PL 528.

Why not use Konboot in Hiren's boot cd to
boot straight into Windows.

how-to-reset-windows-administrator-password-kon-boot-ubuntu

http://hk.hezy.net/video/10459/how-to-r ... t-ubuntu-/

Chris

To dk60902: I tried finding 'chntpw' from the PL525 PPM & it isn't there. Thanks anyway, you made me remember that I have other distros at my reach right here...

This would probably suffice and shouldn't need many, if any- dependencies.

Thanks for replying, Semme!

Do you think if I d/l that file, put it within my DSL pendrive (which boots already there) it will run under DSL?

Less think'n, more do'n >> Try it!

benny7440 wrote:To dk60902: I tried finding 'chntpw' from the PL525 PPM & it isn't there. Thanks anyway, you made me remember that I have other distros at my reach right here...

Instead of getting it from the puppy repositories, I remember downloading it as a standalone program and burning it to a CD.

As someone suggested:

http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/

Thank you for replying dk60902!

I d/l & transferred it to 3 diskettes but even though it ran at the other computer it never recognized the disk drive in it. I tried it from DSL but it did not run with it &, for no apparent reason, tried 2 different puppy live cds (431 & Lupu) but neither started there this time even though at least one of them ran there a couple of weeks ago. Now, today, I imagine that trying to run a live cd with something in a usb port might interfere: had the deb in a cfcard as well as the diskettes for the sake of having 2 choices or at least a kind of backup.

Think another solution should be tried...maybe I'll try Hirens cd.

benny7440 wrote:Thank you for replying dk60902!

I d/l & transferred it to 3 diskettes but even though it ran at the other computer it never recognized the disk drive in it. I tried it from DSL but it did not run with it &, for no apparent reason, tried 2 different puppy live cds (431 & Lupu) but neither started there this time even though at least one of them ran there a couple of weeks ago. Now, today, I imagine that trying to run a live cd with something in a usb port might interfere: had the deb in a cfcard as well as the diskettes for the sake of having 2 choices or at least a kind of backup.

Think another solution should be tried...maybe I'll try Hirens cd.

I have the CD and .iso at home, I believe. I'll see if it's small enough to email. It might be 10 mb or so. Perhaps there is a compression program to send it. I'm haven't converted to a .zip or tar ball before, but I'll see what I can do.

Thanks for replying, dk60902!

I'm now almost ready to try a diferent solution: kon-boot. If this doesn't helps I'll go for Hirens solution or, if you kindly, extract the app from yours & make it available that would be.

In any case, I'll keep the issue updated.

Stop waffling Benny and <img_here> already!

For DK- PeaZip portable can <literally> *squash* it. Go with a drag'n drop, 7Z max/ultra compression archive.

"Perhaps there's a.."

I've d/l & extracted the contents of konboot to a cfcard, Semme; there're 2 files in the floppy version (one of them is a non-essential txt file & the other's an .img file, while for the other d/l there's an .iso file & the txt file mentioned above.

My question now is how can I make a bootable floppy of konboot from the machine that just boots DSL? Better yet, can I make the cfcard bootable itself (with konboot)?

The other day I was experimenting for the first time with Virtualbox in PL528.005 & tried to boot DSL, Win98 & FreeDOS but, at the end, just FreeDOS booted up. Is there a value for me using virtualbox in the VAIO (have not a diskette driver) if the HP laptop has a working floppy driver?

I'm feeling so spent with these issues that I might not be thinking reasonably sound! Could you help defogging the mist? Thanks in advance for any advice!

Is PL528 still an option? Can you dwnld'n save pkgs to somewhere she'll have access?

Pssst, from here.. you'll need these deps for chntpw >> libgcrypt11, libc6 and libgpg-error. Good luck.

Thanks for replying Semme!

I've read your post but fail to understand it:
1) don't understand the reference PL528, do you mean if I've other distros in this VAIO?
2) what it means that of "downloading packages to somewhere she will have access"? The other machine?

After visiting the links at the bottom of your post my reflection points to the idea of you thinking I'm wanting to run chntpwd here within PL528 & this isn't the case: I wanted to run it as a standalone app in the affected machine which it did, but failed to recognize the hdd. If I'm wrong here & those dependencies aren't for running the app but for acquiring more useful disk drivers I need a verification from you to this end.

Thanks for any additional info on this subject matter; I still have the prepared diskettes for chntpwd even though I'm in the process of trying konboot there.

528 reference. I took this as not having internet access. Guess not..

Is it possible to use the following with PL431 &/or PL528 without having to add anything extra?

Continue with whatever you're busy with cause there's more than enough to do something with here.

Dead'in the water or.. wha-happen? Still nuthin Benny, huh? You've gotten nowhere with this..

Perhaps then you'll tell us which universe you're from.. I'd like to get in on this time-line..

In at most 2 days more I'll decide..

Thank you for your interest, Semme!

I've been VERY busy with this issue because it has turned out to be NOW more than at the beginning a personal thing. First I thought that this was something I could do in < 5 hrs, when a few days later I realized I'd invested ~12 hrs on this it jumped to the personal category.

After that point in time I spent increasingly more time until now I'm spent, I almost all day long I think about this.

See the flow as I've experienced it:
1) after many months that machine with another monitor & cleaned RAMS resurrected;
2) only one Administrator acct but no recollection of what it was;
3) after about a keek of reading & searching my choice was to try first chntpw but even though it started OK there had not the driver for that HDD;
4) decided to switch app & konboot was it & encountered dificulty making a diskette that could be run there so decided to try to boot konboot right from the cfcard;
5) decided to give grub4dos a try & the experience has been very bad, after ~3 days trying to learn how to configure it right, even though it's booting up it can't start konboot nor DSL (the only choices I've played with until now). I've googled for info on it but the said "Tutorials" & info pages are lacking in structures & completeness at a high degree.

No, Semme, I'm still pushing the cart. Even though I might be taking ~2 days off because I've to go to another town for the said period of time, I'm sure I will be thinking on this...

Benny.. C'mon now- get a grip. CAN the machine in question boot from cdrom or not?

Can you use it or another box (presumably a neighbors) to burn the iso image?

The NTPassword image isn't rocket science. Unzip the iso'n burn..

If you need to burn from Linux- speak up!

Before the next page already..

Thanks for replying Semme!

As a wrap-on-all: The Sick-Mach boots from usb (DSL) & from the cdrom drive (Lupu - think it was 528) AWA Ubuntu 8.10. There's no access to the web there nor has it a cd burner. It has a 3.5" diskette drive. Since I had quiet a few of those around without any immediate use for them but no unused cdroms & almost non rewritable ones it was mainly for this reason I, first read about the issue for a few days &, finally, decided the ophcrack was my Ist choice, konboot the IInd & trying to d/l + install into a cfcard, say HBCD, the IIIrd.

Haven't managed to install konboot into a 3.5 diskette yet, for doing this HERE I've to use the HP laptop (which is the only computer with such a drive I've) & that only boots from the usb drive (DSL). Have various puppies frugally installed here at the VAIO but haven't found a way to boot that HP with any of them, including the Lupu cdrom that boots the Sick one. ??? Iǘe even tried PXE bootin the HP but it never finishes.

I've stumbled upon a VERY OLD BartPE cdrom & I'm planning to go there with it to see if I can do some useful work with it. I don't remember what can be done with it but many years ago it solved an issue I had here with another VAIO that used to run WinXP. I'll see what happens & will post anything relevant.