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Posted: Sun 27 Jan 2013, 06:39
by s-kami
...and another link:

http://puppylinuxnews.org/puplets/xplik ... h-version/

...and my XP like puppy based on
Lucid 528:

Original hungarian forum post:
http://puppylinux.hu/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=388

Posted: Sun 27 Jan 2013, 07:20
by Sonic
Atle wrote:I happen to have a laptop extra to test this and are now downloading.

What does "pukka" mean?

I will see if it eats up my hardware and ignites a fire in my laptop :D

There is no evil like Microsoft evil... :twisted:

So i make a test just to see if this is as bad as the comment fields are indicating or if its just a matte of a little "not invented here" syndrome:-)
After few weeks on this forum
I think this syndrome is real: roll:
It seems to me that Puppy Linux is one of the best Linux distribution but its the worst community :?

word

Posted: Sun 27 Jan 2013, 07:39
by s-kami
Worst community?
Why?

I got dozens of thousand help here.
Thiefs are not welcome here...
Everyone have an own project are well known here...

I have created xp - like puplet to use it for begginers for their old computers.
It was the easiest way to help them to change operation system to a faster one (on useless machines).

Puppy runs better but some beginners afraid of change.
It was a puplet helped them to understand puppy is a good way to use their low cost machine.

NOTICE: I read Pmount wont work. It is because of gtk. It was my main issue as i making this puplet.
Change gtk theme for base (polish blue, or some already builtin) and it will work...

Re: word

Posted: Sun 27 Jan 2013, 08:07
by Sonic
s-kami wrote:Worst community?
Why?

I got dozens of thousand help here.
Thiefs are not welcome here...
Everyone have an own project are well known here...

I have created xp - like puplet to use it for begginers for their old computers.
It was the easiest way to help them to change operation system to a faster one (on useless machines).

Puppy runs better but some beginners afraid of change.
It was a puplet helped them to understand puppy is a good way to use their low cost machine.

NOTICE: I read Pmount wont work. It is because of gtk. It was my main issue as i making this puplet.
Change gtk theme for base (polish blue, or some already builtin) and it will work...
ok, I admit, I apologize, it was in the heat of anger. :oops:
I have a problem that takes my head with lots of puppy and nobody answer me (at least "we don't know!") and it gets on my nerves.
sorry :cry:

Re: word

Posted: Sun 27 Jan 2013, 08:23
by James C
s-kami wrote: NOTICE: I read Pmount wont work. It is because of gtk. It was my main issue as i making this puplet.
Change gtk theme for base (polish blue, or some already builtin) and it will work...
That fixed it........ Pmount now working normally.Thanks. :)

Posted: Mon 28 Jan 2013, 02:48
by James C
Darn, right after my above post the forum went down..... :) At least it's back.

LuPu-a'laXP

Posted: Mon 28 Jan 2013, 06:26
by Ol'Duffer
Should there be duplicate files - different size/date, same name/location? :?:

Posted: Mon 28 Jan 2013, 12:58
by ICPUG
Atle wrote: What does "pukka" mean?
To quote from Wikipedia, it is UK slang for genuine or very good. I was using the first definition. A certain TV chef over here introduced the latter!
nepo384 wrote: ////has been posted in the wrong place////////

The index page says for this place:"Using ... configuring".
Yes - but this is not about using-configuring. It is a Puppy derivative so should appear in that forum. It seems it now does so a mod must have moved it.
nepo384 wrote: I wish I could see what's inside ISO without actually downloading it, just like you are
I can see files inside an ISO. They look right but it would not be too difficult to, for example, alter the initrd.gz so that the init file within deleted all the files on my hard drive! I am just being cautious.

Open source works on building trust and respect. With a first post in the wrong place and with little background info levels of trust and respect are mimimal. If s-kami's claim of ownership is valid, as it seems to be since he knew about the pmount bug, then I'm afraid your levels of trust and respect have not been enhanced.

I followed s-kami's early work on his 431 based Puppy. Not having been to the Hungarian forum I did not know about the 528 based equivalent. As I like 5.2.8, like the idea behind the XP theme and definitely like Wine and Portable Apps, I like the thought of LucidXP. Kudos to the author and hopefully, with the forum's help, we can iron out the bugs that have been noted by kooliepup and others.

Re: oh boy

Posted: Mon 28 Jan 2013, 15:16
by nepo384
s-kami wrote:Oh boy...
So... it is not nice from you...
Yes, only the wallpaper is the same, but my guess it is Microsoft proprietary, not yours? All the rest in the masterpiece of yours isn't even close to my customization (if you know what I am talking about).

Posted: Mon 28 Jan 2013, 17:10
by Atle
Is it based on 5.2.8 001,002,003,004 or 005?

xp lucid

Posted: Mon 28 Jan 2013, 17:55
by s-kami
Oh, sorry, it was posted:
szept. 04, 2011 12:48 am

I cant remember...
Maybe the first....
:lol: :lol: :lol:


Original hungarian forum post:
(ISO link can be found also there)
http://puppylinux.hu/phpbb3/viewtopic.p ... ffe2e53d44

seven puppy

Posted: Mon 28 Jan 2013, 18:19
by s-kami
Hunagrian forum member Kros54 made stat about most downloaded puplets from hungarian server last year. Thanx Kros!

My xp puplet downloaded sometimes...
:lol: :lol: :lol:


Anyway Ivan Sampa Brasil made videos from my puplets:

Xp like Puppy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbMFaqfIT0

Se7en puppy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4peqDHbtUls

Posted: Tue 29 Jan 2013, 01:13
by nepo384
Some more updates. There are two items in the archive:

1. shell32.dll.
This will replace Wine's folder icons with WinXP original. Just copy it into /root/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32 and overwrite original one. Supplied shell32.dll is exactly for the Wine version in this derivative. I didn't test it with another Wine versions o builds.

2. <speaker icons> folder.
New view of the speaker on the taskbar/fbpanel. Overwrite originals in the folder /usr/share/retrovol/images.

Note: I am not responsible for the Microwave oven in your Out house, damaged by these files. :)

Posted: Tue 29 Jan 2013, 01:19
by nepo384
2 s-kami:

You'd better download and try my version. Hope after that you'd be able to see huge difference, but your opinion as a software expert, based on the screenshots, definitely worth a million. Probably two millions...

Oh, by the way, did I steal something from you? Name please.

Posted: Tue 29 Jan 2013, 01:26
by nepo384
Atle wrote:Is it based on 5.2.8 001,002,003,004 or 005?
5.2.8 005

Its the best Puppy, IMHO.

different?

Posted: Tue 29 Jan 2013, 04:20
by s-kami
Sorry, i see no differences.
As i see it is the same puplet, same issues, same base.

Different: I repaired a lot bugs, made modified and own themes, iconsets, gtk theming, volume icon, winetricks + dependecies (graphical winetricks requires), wallpapers, not only xp themes, Vista and seven themes also included and software for everyday use like winxp i used to:
VLC, MSN, Skype, DoubleCommander, Midnight Commander, some modification in defaults and integration, new web browser instead of originally included...etc...etc...

This puplet seems a light modification of my puplet but my project is for beginners for everyday use.
A puplet for beginners and for me to install low cost machines for friends and colleges...

Creating a puplet mean i know issues, programs and i can write descriptions about, u wrote nothing just put something here...
Seems strange...
As i see, u have downloaded this puplet and said, i made this...
:roll: :roll: :roll:

What changes u made?
Programs and versions?
Repos and links?
What modification u did?
Defaults?
MIME types?
Associations?
Why choose Lucid, and old puppy not wary, racy, slacko or precise or fatpup?
U wrote nothing, there is no description...

seven

Posted: Tue 29 Jan 2013, 05:03
by s-kami
Another theme in my puplet:
http://skami.homelinux.org//images/rsga ... 7-word.jpg

I made MAC theming also but MacPup is not my project so i not call it MacPup...
http://skami.homelinux.org//images/rsga ... even01.jpg

Some pic from me:
http://skami.homelinux.org/index.php?op ... ry2&gid=19

Re: different?

Posted: Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:39
by nepo384
s-kami wrote:.... i see no differences.
I am sorry for your blindness and something more.

Posted: Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:44
by Atle
i guess someone with broadband, a few hours etc could say if there is a great difference or not.

Anyhow i like the Puppy 5.2.8.005 and would like to see any kind of improvements on that specific Lupu or Lucid(i am confused)

If it turns out to be two different variants of the same, it would be nice to see both XP specialists join hands and make one version with the best of both.

That said... I am for peace, love and unity...

Posted: Tue 29 Jan 2013, 13:22
by ICPUG
nepo384 says his pup is based on 5.2.8-005

5.2.8-005 was released in April 2012

s-kami says his pup was released in Sep 2011 so it cannot be 5.2.8-005

This post defines what was introduced new into 5.2.8-005
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 253#554253

It should be a simple matter to check some of the versions of software mentioned to see if nepo384's pup is based on 005 and therefore different from s-kami's pup.
Anyhow i like the Puppy 5.2.8.005 and would like to see any kind of improvements on that specific Lupu or Lucid(i am confused)
Lupu is an abbreviation of Lucid Puppy and are interchangeable. Lucid by itself used outside this forum would probably be taken as Lucid Ubuntu!